Actually most people in the world prefer to do what ever is easier. Not all...but most. And it spans way farther than videogames. Ugh.
So we shouldn't make tierlists because some people always choose the easier way? Good logic.
Because there are alot more factors to who wins, than the characters on a purely dissected level. Okay, a PERFECTLY played Link VS. a PERFECTLY played Yoshi, has a SLIGHT dissadvantage...well so what? You're gonna chicken out on playing your favorite character because in a perfect game he has a disadvantage? Its a videogame, try to enjoy it.
In a lot of matchups, it's not even about perfectly played X's vs. perfectly played Y's. Some characters are just so far behind everyone a perfectly played Y will lose against a sloppily played X.
I give you
NTSC Melee Sheik vs. Anyone She Can Chaingrab. Or, for even more fun, I give you
NTSC Melee Beta Sheik vs.
Anyone She Can Chaingrab.
Beta-Sheik is just like NTSC-Sheik, only her upair is
even stronger and her needles
explode.
And sorry, this is
Competitive Gaming. In Competitive gaming, we play
to win.
Sometimes, that means playing a character who's not our favourite character in a videogame (if said favourite character is reaally crappy). So what if someone's favourite character in Melee might be Mewtwo? Mewtwo's got the odds against him he's got an uphill battle in almost every single matchup there is. Sometimes, the uphill battle is so large it's virtually impossible for him to win.
A MewTwo player has to be leagues better than a Marth player to win.
If we're playing strictly "for fun", then, yes, if I really liked Mewtwo, then I might play as him. But in Competitive Gaming, in tournaments where there are prizes/money/both on the line, even if I loved Mewtwo, I wouldn't go for him. Because it's almost impossible to do well as him.
It might not be
your cup of tea, but it is
mine (and pretty much every single competitive fighting game players', you don't play Bottom Tiers just because you happen to like their playstyle, at least not in important matches... unless the game happens to be called Guilty Gear XX (any of them)).
Who are you to dictate what we can and cannot do because you perceive that it takes the fun out of things? Competitive gaming is
still fun for those who choose to play competitively. Yes, there are those who choose to play Low Tiers either for the prestige (and I laugh at them - It's OK to play a Low Tier because you want to, it's not OK to think you're worth more than someone else for playing a Lot Tier) orbecause they just love their characters so darn much. But when was the last time you saw a Pichu place well in a tournament?
Our fun might not be the same and
your fun (items/Final Smashes/Low Tiers/what have you). But it's
our way.
I played Ness in Melee, and i liked the constant uphill battle. Oh but maybe that's because I'm not a ***** about it. Also...It's a game, I have other things in life to be "THE BEST AT ^_^!!"
Are you saying that those who take Competitive gaming seriously should just get a life? Classy.
Thats because people can't keep their opinions to themselves. Or somthing is so misbalanced, people can all agree on it.
O... K...
Brawl isn't special, its a game, like skipping rocks across the water. Do you want to make a tier list for that? How about we make all of our own opinionated tier lists for EVERYTHING, so we can force our opinions on EVERYONE ELSE? ...Do you have to suck the fun out of everything and make it a science fair project?
There's a tierlist for skipping rocks across water. What kind of water, what kind of weather, what kind of rock (size/weight/hollowness), etc. Not all rocks are made the same.
We're not
forcing our opinions on
anyone. We're
presenting them to the public at large. People can
choose whether or not to take part of them and if so whether or not to take heed to them.
No one takes a look at a tierlist and is
forced into tierwhoring.
Free Will - look it up. It's even got an angel (Tabris).
Oi. Did you read my post where I mention that TF2 character classes have different speed and hit point values, as well as having pre-set weapon configurations that cannot be changed? They have actual roles of play and such, and a tier list in TF2 would likely be based on what is seen in tournament teams most often (which would definitely be Soldiers, Scouts, and Medics).
Oi, did you see the part where the word "FPS" is not the same thing as "Team Fortress 2"? And the fact that not all FPS:es are like TF2?
And some other people's post about how not even TF2 (or Starcraft) is so perfectly balanced (if so, then why the constant patching?)? While it's
very balanced, there are probably still tiers, just that the differences aren't that noticable. It's also a team-based game. What are the teams that win usually comprised of? You can build a tierlist off of that.