Who Would You Rather See In Brawl #1 - Wolf O'Donnell Or Krystal

[Bowserlick]

No it was a joke. I would actually be suprised if Andross got five votes. In fact I would be suprised if he got two votes. Even if someone did fancy the idea of a body flaunting Andross, they would still probably still rather see Wolf or Krystal in first.

But Andross was there first and his very existence impacted the lives of Wolf, Krystal, Fox, and his crew. So I definately think he needs to be represented somehow in the game, hopefully as a character.

 

[Blazer]

to blazer: it doesnt matter whether or not if a character uses the moves or skills in a previous game. There are many cases where moves are made up for the game. Captain falcon had no identication of fire attacks before smash and fox had no identication of using the reflector, illusion, firefox, or blaster before smash. Your arguement is fruitless and it only makes me ashamed to support wolf over krystal.

Throw Fox's out of that one. He is a space fighter and says spmething about a blaster in one of the games.
Also: this is a reason against Krystal too. For all that we know her staff will not be included. Is she ever seen using it other than a single fireball attack? No. Case settled. Zelda appears in various games quite often sealing things, predicting things, opening things in Oot, and I believe I remeber a few minor attacks from earlier games.

 

[Ferro De Lupe]

I am fairly certain that Sakurai knows that putting her in without her staff will ruin her as a character in Brawl.

 

[kaid]

Blazer, you seem to be having problems understanding, so I'm writing up a quick definition on the only word you might be misunderstanding.

Her: the female posessive pronoun. The one who owns an object. eg, HER STAFF.

Do you understand yet?

 

[commonyoshi]

Krystal sucks. She replaced Peppy, the best Star Fox character. Wolf sucks simply because he's really lame. He just sits in a ship, shooting at Fox. No personality whatsoever.

 

[Captain Fabulous]

Krystal sucks. She replaced Peppy, the best Star Fox character. Wolf sucks simply because he's really lame. He just sits in a ship, shooting at Fox. No personality whatsoever.

umm how is Peppy the best Character ? i means he cooler that Slippy but how is he the best??

 

[commonyoshi]

"Use the barrel roll!" He's so cool, giving you sweet advice all the time. "Hit the brakes!" "Your father would be proud."

 

[Captain Fabulous]

"Use the barrel roll!" He's so cool, giving you sweet advice all the time. "Hit the brakes!" "Your father would be proud."

lol yea you have a point he is cool but i like Krystal more ..

 

[commonyoshi]

I hate her voice. It's just so... feminine? Plus, she makes no real contribution to the team other than kicking out the best character in the series.

 

[Captain Fabulous]

I hate her voice. It's just so... feminine? Plus, she makes no real contribution to the team other than kicking out the best character in the series.

eh i like her voice it's hot and he had to retire anyway he was getting pretty old

and would you rather her voice be manly ? i sure wouldn't lol

 

[kaid]

"Use the barrel roll!" He's so cool, giving you sweet advice all the time. "Hit the brakes!" "Your father would be proud."

Just wait till Fox's Son puts together a team, and Falco's the aging vet giving out advise.

 

[xianfeng]

eh i like her voice it's hot

Hot?!?!?! It's the ugliest voice I have ever heard, Rare is usually good at voice actors too but Krystal's voice was just so eeewww, ugliest british (is that what it is?) accent I have ever heard (yet it's still 100x better than a strong american accent)

 

[commonyoshi]

Just wait till Fox's Son puts together a team, and Falco's the aging vet giving out advise.

Ah! Shut up, shut up, shut up!

 

[SupaSmashBrotha]

Hey commonyoshi just wanted to point something out. Wolf>Peppy. Peppy sucks he would probably break a hip if he got in smash. Then he would be promptly replaced with Wolf.

 

[Blazer]

Blazer, you seem to be having problems understanding, so I'm writing up a quick definition on the only word you might be misunderstanding.

Her: the female posessive pronoun. The one who owns an object. eg, HER STAFF.

Do you understand yet?

I quite well understand that it is HER STAFF. But, whose to say she will use HER STAFF? Hm? You going to go personally tell Sakurai that she has to be in the game using HER STAFF? Go ahead and be my guest on that one. Not going anywhere are you? I didn't think so. Now then whose to say that even if she is in the game with her staff that she will use Fox's adventure moves? Again you fail to listen to any reasoning I have and will undoubtedly continue to post rude comments and state the exact same thing that every Krystal fan has said over and over again, "Krystal has a staff so she is less likely to be a clone."Or, at least, something to that effect. So, in return to this comment I will use what many Wolf followers commonly use, " Wolf could use the Assault moveset." Or, how about, "Wolf has a robotic eye he could use a moveset based on that." Wait... Did anyone stop to count how many reasons Krystal has compared to Wolf? 1:2! OMG! Wolf has more movesets he could use than Krystal!
Don't bother telling me she could use the Assault moveset either it just wouldn't work well with her. It's not an extremely 'female friendly' moveset.

 

[Captain Fabulous]

im sorry but how can you base a moveset on his Bionic Eye?

 

[kaid]

I quite well understand that it is HER STAFF. But, whose to say she will use HER STAFF? Hm? You going to go personally tell Sakurai that she has to be in the game using HER STAFF?

The thing is, we DON'T HAVE TO. To create any moveset OTHER than the staff based moveset, using the 4 combat-worthy spells from Adventures as her 4 specials, is more work than Krystal NEEDS. Less work needed for Krystal= Less clones in the game.

To say Wolf has an "assault" based moveset requires defining exactly what from assault to use. A Cyber-eye needs even more work. Krystal has exactly 4 options for staff-based specials, and one is a definitive ^b, and another is a definitive vB.

 

[SupaSmashBrotha]

Just b/c it's easier to give a character moves doesn't mean they are the better choice. I have seen some of the Krystal movesets and they seem pretty much monotonous. While if you look at the Wolf movesets they are very diverse; they range from a long-range tech style to close-quarter melee. Also Blazer is saying that Krystal fans are trying to push off the statement that "If Krystal's in smash then she will use her staff so she should be in it b4 every1 else." as fact.

 

[kaid]

Krystal has several of the benifits of being a clone with none of the drawbacks. If Sakurai or ANYONE who works for him can notice the obvious, they will NOT reinvent the wheel when they have a perfectly functional and unique moveset provided by Rare.

Mario used fireballs and his cape. Link used his spin attack, arrows, boomerang, and bombs. Pikachu used Thundershock, thunder, and Quick attack. Even Zelda's moveset was taken from moves in OoT. Therefore, Krystal WILL use Staff Boost, Fire shot, Ice blast, and Ground Quake.

 

[xianfeng]

In recent games Krystal hasn't used her staff or magic, I told you Nintendo hates everything rare does, this is one of those things.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

In recent games Krystal hasn't used her staff or magic, I told you Nintendo hates everything rare does, this is one of those things.

Assault was made by Namco

commando takes place entirely inside spacecrafts like Starfox 64

 

[xianfeng]

Assault was made by Namco

commando takes place entirely inside spacecrafts like Starfox 64

Did she use her staff in Assault? No. Has there been any mention of her staff? No Can Namco make good Nintendo games? No.

 

[commonyoshi]

Hey commonyoshi just wanted to point something out. Wolf>Peppy. Peppy sucks he would probably break a hip if he got in smash. Then he would be promptly replaced with Wolf.

ORLY now? Well your logic makes no sense. Everyone knows that Mr. Rogers>Paris Hilton, but according to your logic, she could beat him up sinse he's dead so she would be better? YOU LOVE PARIS HILTON?!?!

Edit: Krystal upgraded to one of these babies:

 

[xianfeng]

That's a downgrade, she was a kick arse magical femme fetale from the jungle, now she's a stupid woman who hides behind a gun. What is it with Nintendo and making women defenceless I mean Peach, Zelda, Daisy it's sexist.

 

[commonyoshi]

now she's a stupid woman who hides behind a gun.

She's still as sucky as she's alwys been. A change in weapons could never take that away from her. Plus, aren't forgetting that

Krystal kills regardless of weapon.

 

[xianfeng]

When Rare made Krystal she was non-sucky kick arse woman who could defend her self. When Namco took over Krystal ditched her staff and hid behind a man and told him too look out.

 

[Wizzlecroff]

Think about it. With the bad ground controls for Assault would you want Krystal to use her staff? It's not an adventure game so you would just be able to shoot magic the same way fox shoots. In command they were all in ships so... would you want her to open the hatch and poke her staff out and shoot something rather than blast them with lasers? The point is that really Starfox was never intended to go into the Adventure genre until Nintendo saw Rare's game and offered the fusion. You can't expect Starfox to stay Adventure.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

No Can Namco make good Nintendo games? No.

Ture. Namco can't do Nintendo right (Donkey Konga was crap, Asasult was alright). Ironically, Nintendo made good Namco games (Pacman Vs)

 

[Kal aMari]

If Nintendo hates everything Rare does, why do we still have Diddy showing up in most games DK does? Using stuff borrowed directly from Rare like the Jetpack in Tennis.

Or, for that matter, why the hell is the DK rap in Melee? Because it's an amazing opus of musical composition that represents the Kongs well?

To make Krystal a clone or give her none of the SFA moves would require much more effort than is needed, seeing as she has her B moves practically written with the staff techniques. You cannot say that Wolf's moveset writes itself as easily as Krystal's does. Would he be a clone? Heck no, clones were last-minute additions, and Sakurai's got plenty of time (guess there's a benefit to the late-07 delay). HOWEVER, should the event arise that they don't have as much time as I'm saying they do, I think it's very likely that they'd put Krystal in first and give her the Adventures moves, again because it's a lot easier.

Given Sakurai has enough time, I'd be disappointed either way if only Krystal or Wolf get in. Personal preference says Krystal; the fact that you may disagree is moot.

 

[SupaSmashBrotha]

commonyoshi Mister Rogers=/= Peppy and Wolf =/= Paris Hilton. It really goes like this Wolf= Bruce Willis and Peppy= Old guy on park bench blabbering about how when he was young everything costed a quarter. Therefore, Wolf>Peppy.

 

[AtticusFinch]

In the ssbm intro, i see Wolf, but not Krystal, but that dosent mean she wont be in it. Just that it gives Wolf an idenity in Smash Bro.s In the end, they are most likely both going to be in brawl. But if i had to choose, i would say Wolf, i mean if Wario got in, why not him?

 

[HiddenTiger]

Atticus: The only reason Wolf appeared in the intro and Krystal did not was because, at the time of Melee's development and release, Krystal did not exist.

Xianfeng: Stop acting like a bossy know-it-all. I don't give a flying **** if you were dissapointed with some Nintendo versions of Rare properties. Just because one egotistical kid didn't like those games doesn't mean that Nintendo bears some sort of unrelenting hatred for Rare and everything they've ever made. Get the **** over yourself you egomaniacal litte ****. I apologize for the profanity, but I've really had enough of you and your "I'm always right" attitude.

 

[AtticusFinch]

Im not saying that because she wasn't in the intro, she won't be in brawl, im saying that Wolf was in it so he has that much more of a chance of being in Brawl. Im sorry for the miss understanding, i'm not here to yell and point fingers.

 

[HiddenTiger]

I didn't really mean anything by that either. I just wanted to point it out.

 

[commonyoshi]

We have rights to our opinions just like you do. I personally think that Krystal is a horrible character, not fit to be with the manly-fox that is... er... Fox. And he didn't say Rare was bad, he said Namco was.

PS: They are both bad.

 

[pup cup]

Star Wolf all the way! And hopefully he''l have a secret taunt like Fox and Falco did in Melee.

 

[Captain Fabulous]

How is Krystal a bad character? she appears in her games more than Wolf does in the games he's in...and hes only in a ship(which i think is lame because i alwasys wanted an out of ship Duel between Fox and Wolf) but yea i hope that they both get in
Perferably Krystal though

 

[SupaSmashBrotha]

When I first played Adventures I liked Krystal but after a while she just gets really annoying.

 

[Captain Fabulous]

When I first played Adventures I liked Krystal but after a while she just gets really annoying.

lol how is she annoying?? slippy is more annoying rofl

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

lol how is she annoying?? slippy is more annoying rofl

Yeah, I tohought Slippy was very annoying too. But my brother is good with him in Assault multiplayer.