Who in the US is ready for the draft?

[manhunter098]

Why? Thats one of the few things the military does right, it gives any underprivileged person the chance to become successful, and as long as you are pretty healthy, and not dumb they will help you to succeed in life.

 

[Crimson King]

What does Freedom of Speech have to do with conscription?

 

[Firus]

I'll ask this, how comfortable are you to say, "(insert presdent name) sucks" in a crowd full of people without getting in trouble by the community?

I wouldn't say that's a legitimate argument since tons of people say how stupid Bush is and how much they hate them...but free speech is definitely getting limited.

Although I wouldn't feel safe saying "Obama sucks" in a crowd because I'd be likely viewed as racist. I wouldn't do so anyways, but...I get the feeling that as Obama's term develops more, you're going to be viewed as racist by the majority of the people for disagreeing with or not liking him. Whether or not his race has anything to do with it.

And I don't approve the bribes that the US army has to make you go on a mission, example like they will help you get the money for school etc.

How is that a bribe? Isn't that, like...pay? Just like any other job you get, you get paid. Would you say that a store is bribing you by offering however much money an hour to work for them?

I think that the draft should only be implemented in dire situations -- like A good smash said, if all nations are attacking the US. But if it's a smaller war, I don't think the draft is necessary, and since it's not necessary it shouldn't be implemented. It's one of those things that should be a last resort, but certainly NOT something you should implement because you feel like it.

Another topic of interest in relation to this; if the US did initiate a draft again, would they change the limitations? Would women be drafted, now that they're more commonly found in the army? That's something else that factors into it.

 

[Lord Viper]

Why? Thats one of the few things the military does right, it gives any underprivileged person the chance to become successful, and as long as you are pretty healthy, and not dumb they will help you to succeed in life.

It's just those people who dosen't like War but can't succeed on getting money for school. Maybe around the 1990's it was a good idea, now it's just passable for reasons already said. Maybe I'm not looking deep enough on this info, I'll look into more about the advantages or disadvantages on diffrent Army help's on schools and/or colleges.

What does Freedom of Speech have to do with conscription?

I belive that conscription mostly applies when you volunteer to work for the Army. Freedom of Speech works when you apply to the Army yourself, or if you get drafted without even knowing why you got drafted, but I don't think it's a chance they will draft you for no reason.

How is that a bribe? Isn't that, like...pay? Just like any other job you get, you get paid. Would you say that a store is bribing you by offering however much money an hour to work for them?

The reason why I call it a bribe, when they mail you more than a ton of mail saying words like, "we will prvide your school needs, if you john the army" or phone calls to john the army, even after saying no they call you again. I understand if your advrtizing at school's, community colleges, or the commercials maybe the internet, but individual phone calls or getting mail from them does feel like a bribe.

 

[aeghrur]

I'll go Tim O'Brien. :O

 

[Jam Stunna]

News flash guys: It's not the 1970's anymore. The American military is not some evil entity dropping unwitting 18-year olds into the jungle any more. Believe it or not, soldiers are there because they WANT to be, and they've decided for whatever reason that it offers them something that they're interested in.

There won't be a draft, stop drumming up fear. The whole reason that the Iraq mess went so badly was because Rumsfeld was downsizing the army. Read this pdf:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/crs/33855.pdf

There have been discussions to increase the size of the military, that's all. Not for an all-out draft.

 

[cman]

How much prison time would draft dodging get?

 

[illinialex24]

How much prison time would draft dodging get?

Expulsion from the country. Pretty much. You go off saying you don't believe in war but its very hard. And the draft isn't right at all.

 

[Zero Beat]

Aren't college students exempted from a draft?

 

[The 5th Horseman]

Aren't college students exempted from a draft?

Yep, which is what I'm going to do.

 

[Crimson King]

Not necessarily. In the civil war, only children were exempted from the draft in order to prevent families losing all their men. That changed for World War I and II. If they did a draft, it would probably be revised because that was established in the 50s and 60s when college was a pretty big deal. Now, college is something you just do.

 

[Xiivi]

If a war did erupt to a scale where there were a large amount of US soldiers needed (we're currently running a surplus) there is a good possibility that Congress would pass a draft.

However, from the current looks of things right now, this doesn't seem to be the case, even with the events going on elsewhere in the world. Also the current Congress looks to be the type that would have a hard time passing a draft, especially if Obama were to veto it.

And if they needed to, they could easily draft college students.

 

[Aesir]

If a war did erupt to a scale where there were a large amount of US soldiers needed (we're currently running a surplus) there is a good possibility that Congress would pass a draft.

However, from the current looks of things right now, this doesn't seem to be the case, even with the events going on elsewhere in the world. Also the current Congress looks to be the type that would have a hard time passing a draft, especially if Obama were to veto it.

And if they needed to, they could easily draft college students.

I wouldn't put much faith in obama opposing a military draft.

But it’s also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it’s important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.

-source: http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008...on-presidential-forum-at-columbia-university/