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Which character is hardest to KO when having perfect DI?

Demp

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Probably DK. Without DI he is already tough to kill. Then add into the momentum stopper (Bair then up B) with DI then he can probably live forever.
 

.Marik

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People need to:

1.) Learn and observe Ally's DI.

2.) Take it in.

3.) ????

4.) PROFIT!

/thread.
 

choknater

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ugh, snake is a ****ing beast to KO. how many times have u THOUGHT u ko'd him, but he really wasn't dead? :'C

too beast
 

swordgard

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You guys are SO wrong.

If the stage is huge, falling speed and instant momentum cancel(such as gaw, yoshis and DK) will matter more. If the stage is near infinitely high, then it will come down to who can use moves that stop all momentum the fastest, and its between gaw yoshi and DK, i think DK is faster with bair to upb but dont quote me on that.

If the stage is small enough, then only weight will have an impact, with bowser being the heaviest.


Anything in between will be combination of both , resulting in the more efficient ones being those with great falling speed and great weight, such as snake, d3, dk and bowser overall. There is 1 priviledged character in every stage.
 

Mr.-0

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Metaknight. If he sees the blow coming he'll just IDC when it hits him hell go flying, but pop uo on the other side of the stage.
 

IamL

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Hmm, I'm going to say...

1.DDD
2.Snake
3.Wario (o-o...)
For the heavy weight anyway

I'm pretty sure Metaknight Wins for lightweight...

However overall I think DDD has the best chance to survive to perfect DI.

(but seriously has anyone achieve perfect DI...)
 

JUDGE

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i dunno.......logics says dk or ddd
but i have the feeling as if snake survives longest
 

Race

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DK, no other character can take a snake u tilt at 200% and still live (Diminished of course)
 

thanortinzak

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It's definately DDD for vertical KOs, as he is one of the heaviest, and the fastest faller.

However, for horizontal KOs, I'd have to say Snake/Bowser.
 

Sorto

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With perfect DI and momentum cancelling, the hardest character to kill, without a doubt is Donkey Kong. For starters he is the overall heaviest character in the game (according M2k), so knocking him off the stage regardless of DI is a chore in itself. Also, his Up-b completely cancels momentum, exactly like game & watches bucket (aka bucket breaking). So while bowser and the other heavyweight characters will be frantically clicking away at aerials to slow their momentum and stop themselves from flying off the screen, DK will just have to click bair to Up-B to completely stop his momentum dead in its tracks. As long as DK has 32 Frames in which he can react after the moves hitstun ends, he can survive the attack. With perfect DI, DK can guarentee he flys in a direction that will keep him alive the longest. Keep in mind that most aerials take 25-35 frames (including ending lag) to perform, so any other character (excluding MK) can at most get off two aerials (MK can get off 3 U-air) in the same amount of time that DK can guarentee a complete momentum stop. Also, add to that fact, that DK is the second and third heaviest character vertically and horizontally in the game respectively; so almost every other character will be flying away faster (and farther) and have less frames to react and slow there momentum in, then him (if hit by the same move, at the same %).

DK is the heavier char taken from M2K weight list.
168 ... 164 ... 166 ..... DK
161 ... 170 ... 165.5 ... DDD
165 ... 165 ... 165 ..... Snake *
170 ... 160 ... 165 ..... Bowser *
 

Riddle

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Everyone. can survive every mostly horizontal attack with an average amount of hitstun by smash Di'ing and teching.

But seriously, DK.
 
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