What's the point of tripping?

[Dragoomba]

and what's this brawl+ i keep hearing about?

Hacking Brawl in order for it to be more competitive.

 

[PD4FR]

acctualy triping helped me I almost fell into a reverse ganon punch mind game and triped right when he was doing it and i was so close to to dying the I killed him

You are a SDirector, so I hope you're being sarcastic.

If you were going to get hit by that Ganon neutral-B, then that means he set it up correctly and deserved the kill. You had no chance after a certain point to dodge it, and, by luck, you tripped and dodged it. You should not have avoided it, you just got lucky.

In short, tripping is bad for the competitive scene.

 

[CRASHiC]

I think they just didn't like the dash-dancing on melee. i mean, like come on! what's so bad about moving back and forth really fast!!!
i have had some pretty sweet combos including dash dancing tho XD

CFalcon ddance--->short hop knee of justice--->KO!!!

Seriously, enough of this, they have no idea what we even do.

 

[chaos11011]

You are a SDirector, so I hope you're being sarcastic.

If you were going to get hit by that Ganon neutral-B, then that means he set it up correctly and deserved the kill. You had no chance after a certain point to dodge it, and, by luck, you tripped and dodged it. You should not have avoided it, you just got lucky.

In short, tripping is bad for the competitive scene.

but it still saved me and maybe i was being sarcasastic but still im on the nuetral side of tripping

 

[RyanPF]

You are a SDirector, so I hope you're being sarcastic.

If you were going to get hit by that Ganon neutral-B, then that means he set it up correctly and deserved the kill. You had no chance after a certain point to dodge it, and, by luck, you tripped and dodged it. You should not have avoided it, you just got lucky.

In short, tripping is bad for the competitive scene.

I think chaos's point was that it wasn't always bad for the tripper. It may be annoying, but it's in no way unfair because both characters have an equal chance of tripping.

 

[Super_Sonic8677]

they did it beacuse YOU MUST RECOVER!!!!!11

/thread

 

[chaos11011]

thank you ryan i would have never made it better myself (maybe icould but watever)

 

[MK26]

@OP: Sakurai wanted to laugh at us while yelling

YOU MUST RECOVER!

That is the truth.

 

[Thunderfoot]

I always end my dash dances with my face planted

Has anyone else ever set a mine with Snake an immediately tripped on top of it?
-1 STOCK

 

[ThundaSpammer]

to give noobs a chance

 

[Chuee]

One time i saw a lucas trip under a gordo at a high %

 

[chaos11011]

there u go avoiding progectails perfect use of tripping

 

[mostwins]

Tripping isn't unfair or anything because both players have an equal chance of being affected by it.

With that being said, it's still pointless.

 

[Kinzer]

to give noobs a chance

Best first post, evar.

I'm okay with tripping, I just play like it doesn't exist, and if I do trip, roll away or take advantage of the getup invincibility frames.

 

[Tianxiazhai]

Best first post, evar.

I'm okay with tripping, I just play like it doesn't exist, and if I do trip, roll away or take advantage of the getup invincibility frames.

Tripping sucks, but we have no choice but to deal with it
This is why
Personally, i prefer the Air!

Also, Kinzer, what does banned mean? And i can see you obviously arent, so?

 

[Kinzer]

I got the hax, that's why I'm not really banned.

Mods ain't got nothing on me!

Anyway my TL;DR version was basically "just deal with it, it's here and there's nothing that can be done about without having to fix it yourself if you're lazy."

 

[magikguy]

Gotta get my sd card reader to get rid of this annoying useless feature

 

[Witch_]

Enh. If anything, just to mess with us.

Either that, or I just figure tripping and the impairment of l-cancelling was made to ease the sharp learning curve that made Melee so challenging.

 

[Kinzer]

Enh. If anything, just to mess with us.

Either that, or I just figure tripping and the impairment of l-cancelling was made to ease the sharp learning curve that made Melee so challenging.

You're on to something here.

Sakurai had gone out of his way to make this game simplistic so any 5 year old and their ancestor grandparents can pick up on this game for everyone to be able to enjoy.

 

[Delta_0]

This is not a fighting game.
This is a party game.

Nintendo had no intention of making a game where the most skilled player will always come out on top. Quite the contrary. Sakruai and nintendo have repeatedly stated that they made this game so that everyone playing can have fun.

Your little sister has more fun when you trip in the middle of the match. She gets to hit you! She hardly ever gets to. It's satisfaction.

Super Smash Bros. MELEE.
Super Smash Bros. BRAWL.
Not Super Smash Bros. PARTY.

 

[Kinzer]

Super Smash Bros. MELEE.
Super Smash Bros. BRAWL.
Not Super Smash Bros. PARTY.

Deny it as much as you want, but Brawl really was meant to be a party game with all the random factors that can turn the tide of a match, the variety, the beauty of the game and how it looks... it just has fighting game mechanics.

 

[Delta_0]

Did I say I denied it? I'm saying it's just as much a fighting game as it is a "party" game.

 

[Kinzer]

Sorry, it just seem like you implied you we're trying to argue that it wasn't what it was.

 

[Delta_0]

I feel like it's 50/50. Sakurai just doesn't realize that the competitive scene is as big as it really is.

 

[Witch_]

You're on to something here.

Sakurai had gone out of his way to make this game simplistic so any 5 year old and their ancestor grandparents can pick up on this game for everyone to be able to enjoy.

Still, most people should consider NOT Snakedashing/Tech Chasing/Chain Grabbing their five year old siblings to hell without the need for an added gimp on behalf of the CPU.

 

[Dylacmac]

Tripping is at worst a minor annoyance. Should it be in the game? Of course not, simple game design says that the outcome of the game should be, as much as possible, determined by the skill of the players. But the overall impact is negligible on brawl as a whole.

Also, I want to point out that, unlike some people are saying, tripping does NOT effect all characters equally. For instance, I main Game and Watch, and nearly all of my approaches, and a good deal of my movement in general comes from jumping and walking, so my chances of tripping are relatively low. On the other hand, a character like Diddy is constantly dashing, so he will trip much more often. So even though the odds of tripping on each dash are the same for all characters, the odds of tripping at any given moment, or during a specific match, are much higher for characters who rely more on dashing. (Diddy may not be the best example, but when I used to mess around with him, I remember dashing, and tripping, a lot)

 

[bigman40]

Just hack your Wii (it's not brickable so don't ***** to me about it) and take out the random tripping feature that happens when you run. It really makes the game feel much better.

 

[Jam Stunna]

I maintain that dizzy which exists in almost every fighter but smash bros is WAY worse design than tripping. No one seems to really complain about dizzy even though when it happens you are pretty much going to lose unlike with tripping which usually doesn't even matter (frequently there is randomness in deciding when you are dizzy, by the way).

Dizzy is not random. It's also not a punishment for forward movement.

 

[camzaman]

The point of tripping is to teach you to get back up when you fall down. Amidst all the greatness of Nintendo fighting fun, he included life lessons for you to learn, son.

 

[camzaman]

Super Smash Bros. MELEE.
Super Smash Bros. BRAWL.
Not Super Smash Bros. PARTY.

Haven't you ever seen bar fights in the movies? Brawl is like that. It's a party and a fight at the same time (wrap your brain around that one, eh?)

 

[M@v]

The funny thing about tripping is that NO ONE likes it, not even casual players. I have a lot of friends that play smash for fun, and they also thing tripping is the worst idea ever. I really want to know what was going through Sakurai's head when he thought up this "bright" idea.

 

[Crystanium]

I have a question. With the use of Homebrew to remove tripping from the game, is it still possible to trip on a Banana Peel? If so, then I don't know what the purpose of tripping is.

 

[EruptingBurningFinger]

Random elements FTL.

 

[MechaBoozer20XX]

Yeah tripping sucks but...man is it funny when CF trips right into my Spartan Kick for the stock and game. Best win I ever had.

 

[Sox]

I think they did it to put the possibility of a "combo" in the game that the lack of hit stun removed.

 

[Alzi]

^ I was just about to say that when i saw that post. It makes some sense too since melee had good hit stun you could do good combo's but now that brawl's hit stun is lowered they added tripping to add in that extra taste.

 

[EruptingBurningFinger]

Brawl already has no combos and with tripping the odds of a so called combo are now even less.

 

[WITH]

I have fun playing street fighter, yet I suck. I am willing to bet casuals liked melee, and would like brawl even if it were very competitive. I mean, if casuals hated melee because of l canceling, hit stun, and wavedashing, would they even have bought brawl?

 

[Deleted member]

those who say tripping gives noobs a change are wrong, since pros will be better at both punishing and recovering from tripping

 

[Brinzy]

lol, "noobs" and "pros."