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What Gimpy trying to say is...

-Mars-

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Sheik has a basic, simple moveset and all you really need is gimps, ftilts, dsmash, jabs, and grabs to be effective?
 
clowsui

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marsulas said:
Sheik has a basic, simple moveset and all you really need is gimps, ftilts, dsmash, jabs, and grabs to be effective?
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you completely missed the point

champ was showing you an example of how basic gameplay can be effective against advanced opponents. obviously you want to use some moves beyond the elementary ones (diminishing returns >_>; ) but drephen's sheik is the perfect proof of how mastering the basic elements of spacing, proper move choice and good prediction/punishment can and will give you an incredibly solid base that you may not even need to add on to to win.

now drephen, since that combo vid, implemented more of an aerial game (he actually used fairs to combo equally as much as dsmash) but that was about it, really; he didn't use needles as much as many other sheiks did, used a hella lot more grabs and guess what? he was midwest captain for crews at basically every big melee tournament he was at (FC3, FC6, FCD, Pound 2, Pound 3). 0c2 and 0c3 had personal crew battles only I think

tl,dr; learn basics until you're at the "drephen" point and then start adding in techs
 
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clowsui said:
you completely missed the point

champ was showing you an example of how basic gameplay can be effective against advanced opponents. obviously you want to use some moves beyond the elementary ones (diminishing returns >_>; ) but drephen's sheik is the perfect proof of how mastering the basic elements of spacing, proper move choice and good prediction/punishment can and will give you an incredibly solid base that you may not even need to add on to to win.

now drephen, since that combo vid, implemented more of an aerial game (he actually used fairs to combo equally as much as dsmash) but that was about it, really; he didn't use needles as much as many other sheiks did, used a hella lot more grabs and guess what? he was midwest captain for crews at basically every big melee tournament he was at (FC3, FC6, FCD, Pound 2, Pound 3). 0c2 and 0c3 had personal crew battles only I think

tl,dr; learn basics until you're at the "drephen" point and then start adding in techs
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Pretty much what I was getting at, technical skill is nice, but only after you have fully implemented the basics.
 
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Hey champ.

Sorry i couldn't get back to you.

Xuerarit: since u claim back air
Xuerarit: gimpy claims forward air
Xuerarit: i claim neutraul air
Xuerarit: agreed?

Agreed.
 
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Wow, he took Falco down like a true Pro. No Spam. Just Pure, 100% "Skill" :p. Nah but seriously, wow, Drephen makes me with Shiek look foolish. He is a Muse to me.
 
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