Wario

[JabbatheHutt]

The music selection for the Warioware stage in Brawl was a shame. You don't even have to count Wario Land, there's so many tunes from Warioware missing like Voices being Carried on the Waves, Four Seasons and WARIO DE MAMBO

Regardless, the tracks we got were great. Particularly the medley, I'm partial to that one.

it was an utter CRIME we did not get this:

THAT needs to be in this go around

 

[Spinosaurus]

Why didn't anyone tell me Greenhorn Forest got a kick ass remix.

I'd still rather the original, though.

EDIT: Scratch that, Greenhorn Ruins is the best track from World, especially the remix it got on Shake It

 

[JabbatheHutt]

Why didn't anyone tell me Greenhorn Forest got a kick *** remix.

I'd still rather the original, though.

EDIT: Scratch that, Greenhorn Ruins is the best track from World, especially the remix it got on Shake It

I hope we get some Shake it Tracks.

I LOVE the Derailed Express:

OR the indiana Jones/Jurrassic Park inspired music:

 

[warioismymain]

Look below

People seem to forget that the devs of game&wario aren't the same as the wario land devs so if the super smash bros devs ask the wario ware devs to use there iteration of wario then they have a responsibility to advertise there version of wario move set and all

 

[Spinosaurus]

People seem to forget that the devs of wario land and wario ware/game and wario devs aren't the same if they ask for permission to use wario they have to use the permutation of wario used in the game they ask for permission to use

Huh? They are the same.

R&D1, the developers of Wario Land, soon became SPD1 after the first Warioware game's release, which they also developed.

It's more of a question if most of the team that worked on Wario Land are still around today in SPD1, but I can assure you they were there when GBA Warioware games came out. The key people, Sakamoto in particular, are still there.

I get what you're saying though. The team probably wanted Warioware to be represented more for Smash because they moved on from Wario Land. If anything, the only bias around is probably all on the character's own owners, not Sakurai.

 

[JabbatheHutt]

Huh? They are the same.

R&D1, the developers of Wario Land, soon became SPD1 after the first Warioware game's release, which they also developed.

It's more of a question if most of the team that worked on Wario Land are still around today in SPD1, but I can assure you they were there when GBA Warioware games came out. The key people, Sakamoto in particular, are still there.

I get what you're saying though. The team probably wanted Warioware to be represented more for Smash because they moved on from Wario Land. If anything, the only bias around is probably all on the character's own owners, not Sakurai.

exactly, I dunno where the information about two separate devs came from.

 

[warioismymain]

I think I know why Wario hasn't been confirmed yet. I think there will be a rhythm heaven rep trailer with Wario in it, I think this is why Sakurai hasn't really touched the subject. The reason I think Wario will be in the rhythm heaven rep trailer is because the chorus kids actually make a cameo in game&wario. They could even throw ness and other newcomers/vets in if they so choose.

 

[JabbatheHutt]

I think I know why Wario hasn't been confirmed yet. I think there will be a rhythm heaven rep trailer with Wario in it, I think this is why Sakurai hasn't really touched the subject. The reason I think Wario will be in the rhythm heaven rep trailer is because the chorus kids actually make a cameo in game&wario. They could even throw ness and other newcomers/vets in if they so choose.

I think you're right about Wario being a trailer.

He has too much of a personality NOT to be in one.

 

[Spinosaurus]

A Wario x Rhythm Heaven character dual reveal is too perfect for it not to happen.

 

[Skyfox2000]

A Wario x Rhythm Heaven character dual reveal is too perfect for it not to happen.

Isn't the Developers from the WarioWare series the same people who worked on Rhythm Heaven?

 

[Spinosaurus]

Isn't the Developers from the WarioWare series the same people who worked on Rhythm Heaven?

Yeah. That's why it's perfect.

 

[Rubbertop]

Wario was my main in Brawl. I think he's fine but if he's getting changed, here's how I think he could change him:
*Replace the Bike with the Shoulder Bash
*Improve the Corkscrew's ability to recover
*Add a meteor spike to his D-Air

This last one seems unlikely if he gets the Shoulder Bash, but I still think it would be nice:
*If you hold back on the analog stick while using the Shoulder Bash, Wario will come to a screeching halt. This would only work while he is on the ground, making Shoulder Bash a risky move to use in the air.

I'd love to see this, but if we're just getting the same Wario from Brawl with only small changes, I'd still be fine.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

It's going to seem very strange knowing that Wario likely won't be getting any box art treatments like in Brawl. And the odd part is that he was a starting character in that game.

I guess I'm just wondering if some of the Brawl veterans that were starters may end up being demoted to unlockable status for Smash 4, because it definitely feels like it with the lack of Wario and Lucas right now.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I think they're just saving him for a trailer. Can't imagine Wario not being a starter.

 

[Rubbertop]

It's going to seem very strange knowing that Wario likely won't be getting any box art treatments like in Brawl. And the odd part is that he was a starting character in that game.

I guess I'm just wondering if some of the Brawl veterans that were starters may end up being demoted to unlockable status for Smash 4, because it definitely feels like it with the lack of Wario and Lucas right now.

There were some returning starter characters from Melee that didn't appear on Brawl's box-art.

 

[Spinosaurus]

If I remember right, despite being one of the first revealed characters in Melee, she was one of the last ones of the starters in Brawl, but she was still a starter.

Granted, she was a part of Zelda, so there's that. Before her was Ice Climbers though, and they apply too, except the gap between their reveal and Sheik's was pretty long.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I think they're just saving him for a trailer. Can't imagine Wario not being a starter.

If that's true, then time is clearly running out before Japan gets Smash 3DS.

 

[Rubbertop]

Am I the only one who actually prefers the Wario Ware games over the Wario Land games? I don't know but I always found the Wario Land games really boring and uninteresting and Wario Ware is at least entertaining for good number of hours. Oh well, guess it's too "casual" for dem "hardcore" gamers...

Anyway, like lordvaati said. Why not cater to both instead of one or the other? It would make fans of both series happy. Replace half of Wario's Wario Ware moves with a more Wario Land flavour and he's good to go.

Personally I'm a fan of both, but I think it was unfair that Land got almost no representation in Brawl.
The only thing I would do with Wario is give him the Shoulder Bash, and make the Corkscrew a better recovery move. Everything else is just fine.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Dunno how'd his Shoulder Bash work. Certainly not as a special attack as the only useless one is Up B, but Wario doesn't need better recovery options. All his other special complement Wario's defensive style and have great synergy with each other.

Shoulder Bash works a lot as a dash, so long as his new FSmash retains the same property as his old one. Though I'm fine with it as an FSmash. It doesn't really do the move any justice in its current state, but it's one of his best move and kill options already as an FSmash.

Wario is a very well designed character as is and doesn't really need any changes imo. I prefer Wario Land over Warioware, but the latter brings more flavor and distinction, so I'm completely behind that. The only move I'd change is his DSmash. Definitely need a Wario Land stage though.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Can I just say... IF that thing people are calling a "leak" is true, then Wario sure is looking really ugly even by Wario standards.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Can I just say... IF that thing people are calling a "leak" is true, then Wario sure is looking really ugly even by Wario standards.

Seriously the first thing I thought of when I saw it

"HELL NO, WARIO"

Though it's fake, ESRB doesn't play games lol.

 

[Shmebulock]

This is seriously taking too long...
I'm gonna go into withdrawal at this rate

 

[warioismymain]

Okay so, Wario might be an unlockable which I don't like either but if we dont get a direct, character confirmation, or a trailer soon it looks like thats his only shot.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I doubt (or hope it's not the case) that MK is the last veteran, and Wario is the most likely one ESPECIALLY if the leak is true since all the remaining veterans were unlockable before except for Wario.

 

[andalsoandy]

I hope the leak is true cuz I kinda like Wario's render.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I hope the leak is true cuz I kinda like Wario's render.

It's really growing on me actually lol

 

[Ryuji]

This is seriously taking too long...
I'm gonna go into withdrawal at this rate

Although I think Sakurai is procrastinating when it comes to revealing Wario, I think he will most certainly come. It would be unthinkable for him to be in Brawl but not the new Smash. Don't know why he just won't be revealed already; he's practically a given.

 

[FlynnCL]

For any Wario mains... there's been recent video leaks that have been causing chaos, and just now an album of images have also been posted (you can see here.)

I mostly want to bring attention to this picture here, of his trophy;

It tells us that he's a fighter, and that he still uses Wario Waft.

 

[Spinosaurus]

WARIOOOOO

Wario Waft is back! This means his moveset is still the same...hopefully!

SO HAPPY

 

[andalsoandy]

For any Wario mains... there's been recent video leaks that have been causing chaos, and just now an album of images have also been posted (you can see here.)

I mostly want to bring attention to this picture here, of his trophy;



It tells us that he's a fighter, and that he still uses Wario Waft.

WARIOOOOO

Wario Waft is back! This means his moveset is still the same...hopefully!

SO HAPPY

I really like his trophy pose, assuming this is also the position he'll be in for his render and Amiibo, I can't say I'm not pleased with it.

Hopefully he gets some amazing expressions in-game xD

As far as his moveset goes, I really hope he got some new A-moves (improved D-smash and B-air especially, maybe a better Dash attack) and hopefully he can control his falling direction during Bite like in P:M.

 

[JabbatheHutt]

I hate that trophy description!!

I do love that render tho, that pose looks pretty freaking sweet.

Hope we get a HQ Version soon.

And an OFFICIAL WARIO ANNOUNCEMENT

 

[Shmebulock]

Aw yiss! Now we just gotta wait to see some of that sweet HD flabbery.

 

[DoubleYooToo]

Tragic. I feel like buying 100 copies of Wario Land 2 and mailing them to Sakurai.

 

[DoubleYooToo]

Anyway, his legs look a bit less stumpy than in Brawl and his pose looks more like the traditional Wario bash-and-crash personality. It also doesn't mention the bike at all. I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic but I'm not expecting to be pleased really.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I shall disregard everyone that wants the Bike gone.

How can anyone be so wrong.

 

[andalsoandy]

I shall disregard everyone that wants the Bike gone.

How can anyone be so wrong.

The bike needs a few mechanical changes. It's really ****ed up in Brawl (especially when landing on platforms.)

Eager to see his Wario Land outfit again, hopefully touched up to match Mario and Luigi's appearances. I also hope his animations are kept weird, but improved in some areas so they don't look as sloppy.

 

[NATGamer]

Even though I've only played Shake It and Wario Land 4, I do still think Wario needs to have a moveset focused more on the Wario Land games. He could be such a better fighter! Anyway, hope to god this leak is fake (have since day 1) and hope to see Wario confirmed soon!

 

[JabbatheHutt]

I really have to start bringing some of the WARIOWRIDAY hype to this thread, like the Miiverse has gotten.

Come on Guys, lets hope for the big guy today!
We have TWO chances!!!!

 

[Spinosaurus]

Didn't happen

Man some bull

 

[DoubleYooToo]

I shall disregard everyone that wants the Bike gone.

How can anyone be so wrong.

By appreciating the Wario Land games for the masterpieces they are and wanting some representation for their protagonist?