Wario Q&A Thread

[DMG]

When you see the sick stuff the pros do...

No.

 

[Padô]

When you see the sick stuff the pros do...

No.

Quoted for GREAT truth.

 

[PieDisliker]

...I'm trying to figure out how to keep up with the rest of the good players in my region. I have limited experience, and being young doesn't help when the only tourneys I go to are an hour drive away from me that happen once every 4-5 months.

My main question I think that can help me keep up is... "How do you guys manage to land the fart on them?" If I even attempt it, they're most likely just going to punish me and I'd take a whole lot of a percentage. And I've also had mine power sheilded several times too.

 

[chimpact]

you can't really get punished for doing a fart unless you do it when its not charged at all.

 

[PieDisliker]

you can't really get punished for doing a fart unless you do it when its not charged at all.

Well... I never actually get a chance to pull it out. I guess sometimes when I focus on accuracy I end up doing it too slowly, and don't pull it off at all. That's when I really get punished. :/

 

[Asa]

I've noticed that i throw out fsmash quite a bit

Should I be saving it?
or does wario have enough killing options that it doesn't really matter?

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

...I'm trying to figure out how to keep up with the rest of the good players in my region. I have limited experience, and being young doesn't help when the only tourneys I go to are an hour drive away from me that happen once every 4-5 months.

My main question I think that can help me keep up is... "How do you guys manage to land the fart on them?" If I even attempt it, they're most likely just going to punish me and I'd take a whole lot of a percentage. And I've also had mine power sheilded several times too.

Try to force them into situations that increase your chances of you landing a fart on them.

I've noticed that i throw out fsmash quite a bit

Should I be saving it?
or does wario have enough killing options that it doesn't really matter?

I think it's just a matter off preference.

 

[Humpy Thrashabout]

I've noticed that i throw out fsmash quite a bit

Should I be saving it?
or does wario have enough killing options that it doesn't really matter?

It's pretty match-up and stage dependent. Fsmash and Upair are your most reliable kill moves. It's generally a good idea to save one or the other.

Save your Fsmash:
-against DK and other characters with crazy vertical momentum cancels
-on stages with high ceilings (I think FD has the highest ceiling for neutrals, nothing comes to mind with CPs)

Save your Upair:
-against characters with blindspots below them or characters with bad Dairs that the clap can beat
-against characters with good horizontal momentum cancels (G&W, Pikachu, Wario, Luigi, and to a lesser extent MK)
-on stages with low ceilings, transformations, or movements (Delfino, Castle Siege, Rainbow Cruise, and Halberd), the ceilings contract during transformations or upward movements.

 

[PhantomX]

Eh, saving fsmash isn't all that vital, we have more horizontal killing options than vertical ones. It would probably help to save it on stages with tremendous ceilings though (like Japes, for example).

 

[Drift108]

what are the best ways to effectively use chomp with wario

i think my favorite is dair to chomp at low percentage or wen they r on the ledge just trying to read them

 

[leatherhead93]

Why is kains wolf so gay?

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Why is kains wolf so gay?

because you touch yourself at night?

 

[leatherhead93]

Are you the same guy from aib? :D
Im zebra XD
Also nou

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Are you the same guy from aib? :D
Im zebra XD
Also nou

Yeah thats me on AiB also.

 

[Humpy Thrashabout]

I'm thinking about getting into the Wifi ladder. What kind of stuff should I expect and how should I modify my play style?

 

[PhantomX]

On WiFi expect to grab much less and do a lot more bike/fsmash/dacus b/c it's a lot safer.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

I'm thinking about getting into the Wifi ladder. What kind of stuff should I expect and how should I modify my play style?

React faster than you normally would it's a pain when you try to air dodge but the input ****s you.

 

[toobusytocare]

what are the best ways to effectively use chomp with wario

i think my favorite is dair to chomp at low percentage or wen they r on the ledge just trying to read them

if you're going to throw a chomp out, dont half-*** it.

if you miss you're gonna get punished either way

Go big or go home.

 

[Navn]

I've been reading into grab-release mechanics, and i can't seem to find out exactly what triggers the ground release. Supposedly, if i buttonmash and break free during a pummel, i ground release - otherwise i air release.

When playing, i seem to groundrelease from time to time if i don't buttonmash to break free, and wait the grab out instead. Any specific information about how air / ground release works? Having more ground releases could sure help my Wario. Inb4 don't get grabbed.

 

[PhantomX]

Don't hit jump/up on any of the sticks when being grabbed by someone who doesn't dangle Wario's feet off the ground (those that do will always get air releases unless you break during a pummel) and you'll ground break.

 

[leatherhead93]

Im not sure if thats true phatomx after all ive tested this against ppl who dont have air release on me. I usually just tap A and i will sometimes air release anyway. I heard not pressing anything when getting grabbed by ppl who dont have air release will always make you ground break but then they can just get in more pummels.

 

[PhantomX]

I just tap down repeatedly on c stick and control stick and always ground break. Also, eating the measly pummel damage is very preferable to eating a kill move or something, lol.

I take the middle ground

 

[Navn]

Someone should do some testing on which characters dangle Warios feet off the ground and post the data here. Seems pretty relevant to Warios metagame. Though not getting grabbed is preferred, of course (albeit impossible).

 

[PhantomX]

We already know who they are and it's been posted before.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

We already know who they are and it's been posted before.

It would still be good for newer Warios to see/ know of this also there isn't a link in the directory. Information is vital me thinks.

 

[toobusytocare]

theres no reason to make a list....

Just look if they dangle you when they grab you then either struggle or dont....

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

theres no reason to make a list....

Just look if they dangle you when they grab you then either struggle or dont....

It's still harsh on newer wario's,

 

[Navn]

I just tested, and you can avoid air release against Meta Knight.. I need not know more, lol.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

I just tested, and you can avoid air release against Meta Knight.. I need not know more, lol.

MK doesn't have a grab relase on Wario unless he grabs you on the edge of the stage or pivot grabs you out of the air.

 

[Navn]

Or unless you struggle to break free, if you do its a free shuttle loop. But why would we wanna do that ^o)

 

[Asa]

can you sdi out of marth's DB

not the down dancing blade the standard one

 

[PhantomX]

Yeah. I think you have to go through him if you're like, right in the thick of it. If it catches you near the tip of the sword, you want to SDI away.

 

[Humpy Thrashabout]

Anyone look at this yet?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=264193

I got this to work with Falco, but haven't tried Wario yet.

 

[PhantomX]

I'd seen it. Wario's dacus is sadly less than epic. Would be hilarious to spotdodge > this from across the stage, but I'd be very surprised if it actually hit anyone that was paying attention.

If anything, it might be an amazing getaway move.

 

[ChomP]

This is to hard for me to do -_-

 

[Asa]

what do you do against a snake that jab cancels/1st hit ftilt to grabs a lot

can i grab him/spotdodge before he grabs me

 

[PhantomX]

If you DId the jab into the ground you can dodge the grab, but you risk eating the second hit of ftilt or getting read. If you get hit by the first hit of ftilt, try to SDI through him.

 

[Asa]

can you sdi away when you get hit by the jab to avoid getting grabbed?

 

[PhantomX]

Yeah. Not very easy though.

DMG... how do you do that bike turnaround thing that Gluttony does here at 3:45 again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87SNh7efpyQ&feature=related

I want to start messing around with it and see what kind of stupidly risky stuff I can come up with, lol.

 

[DMG]

You just get the right spacing, Bike, and turn around at the edge/incline. You have to be either in transition speed, or going full speed I believe (I've not done it while going slow).