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It's called the "double-troll", similar to the double-bluff in poker... Things start getting real technical with a triple-troll, but I'm one of those people who believe that's the same as a regular troll depending on the mindset of the person eing trolled...
I dunno, but for some reason I really wanna see the ending theme song dance to that XD
I can't stand Great Swords, seem so sluggish. Standard swords for me, run in and just slash to heck before giving it legs.
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READING CINEMAS
- There has been an SF 4 tournament there... According to Andrew (SF4 TO) Reading Cinemas only has space for ~4 set-ups, and spectators caused a lot of trouble moving around to watch other matches... I think he said they resorted to, or almost resorted to, forcing people to stay in their seat until they were called to play...
- Venue fee is amazing - only requirement was that everyone had to buy something from the candy store (i.e. the venue fee was the price of whatever you wanted to snack on :D)...
- Venue provides no tables (IIRC) and the seating is fixed to the floor...
- Given that Brawl alone requires more than 4 set-ups to run, deemed this not to be suitable for a National (not even really for a local, however the cost of trying it out for a true local is extremely low
HOTEL LOBBY/CONVENTION CENTRE
- I have a feeling this was discussed while I was picking up Trav, but I'm pretty sure we decided against it (Pete/Mic please enlighten us
- I flicked through what Pete received from the various sites, and found them to be exorbitantly expensive (over $10000 for three days in the case of the convention centre!!!)
REC CENTRE
- This was the general concensus of the best option
- Karrinyup venue holds 250 people (we estimated a turnout of 150 people in total each day, so this should fit us and set-ups comfortably)
- Being a rec hall, should have a plethora of tables and chairs to use...
- $50 per hour for the cost, and it's based on what we tell them in advance
- (Apparently, to my skepticism
- Also apparently we get the key for the whole weekend that it's booked for (pick up key Fri, return it on the following Mon)... Ergo it should be okay to leave stuff in the venue, and also should allow people to get there early/stay late to setup and pack up... Again, I'm skeptical about this
- Nearest food to the Karrinyup centre is Maccas and a Chinese restaurant (~600m walk), but other food options aren't within walking distance (easy drive though
- Heaps of options for locations that SHOULD be all similarly priced
LECTURE HALLS
- Choice of arena style (fixed seating
- Definitely not as big as a rec hall (Classroom style rooms)
- Since being on a Uni campus, should be relatively close to food options (unless food places close during the holidays... I don't know, I don't go to Uni in January :D)
- Inbuilt projector xD
- Probably going to be more expensive than $50 an hour (I recall Curtin being $300 for 3 hours or something ridiculous like that for an arena style lecture hall... It'd be less than that for classroom, but don't think it'd go down to $50/hr)
SIDE EVENTS
- Everyone at the meeting really loved the idea of a cross-community Tug o' War (arcade fighter v SSB) the most, however dodgeball, duck duck goose and mafia were also brought up...
- For Brawl, Crew Battles seems to be a general concensus...
- For the arcade fighters, Andrew mentioned a "gauntlet" - teams of three compete against each other in three games that weren't part of the tournament, where each player got allocated a game for that round at random (example: names drawn out of a hat - Andre v Alister at Tekken, Trav v Pete at BlazBlue, Jesse v Rick at TvC)... a "VS" gauntlet would be a good consideration (TvC, MvC, CvSNK), though that's something that can easily be sorted out later (i.e. once we as a community have tried out one of these "gauntlets" at a fest or something
- As for the when, the morning before the tournament begins would be optimal for attendance for both communities, as the arcade fighter community are generally older and would prob not attend on the weekday (assuming this is a three-day event - see SCHEDULE below)... That being said, we're looking at early January where full-time employees SHOULD be on their holidays as well, so it's a bit of a grey area that we need to sort out...
MONEY STUFF
- Venue fee would be around $15-20 (based on an expected attendance of 150 people combined, at a cost of $500 per day for the REC HALL)
- Upon payment of venue fee, the players receive a lanyard (similar to how WAICON did it) - serves as proof of payment AND a nice little souvenir
- Excess venue fee (remember we're budgeting not just for venue/lanyard fee, but also for unexpected costs) would be put aside and used for the next major/cross community tournament (suggested that, if successful, we could hold one every 6 months), or alternatively split up and put into the different pots evenly... Depends on how well the AF and SSB communities get along
- Event entry fees were NOT discussed
- Spectator fees weren't decided on definitely, but it was decided that we shouldn't need to charge spectators if our estimated costs and attendance are near correct... It's something that can be added on once we have finalised our cost, anyway
STAFFING
- All TOs would help out to take venue fees at the start, and organise pre-major side events :D Because they're such nice people ^^
- One major TO (EI3 admin? God?) to collaborate between both communities, make sure everything is running smoothly in general, allocate set-ups to specific games if demand becomes greater than supply etc.
- One TO (event coordinator?) for each community to keep an eye on the admin stuff (operates TIO, calls out next matches, takes entry fees for each event, protects pot money from thieves :D)
- One TO (referee?) per 2 setups to referee games, report results to event coordinator, find players who need to play matches etc.
- Obviously we'd need some spares as well so that, when the TOs need to play their games, people can take over from them
- We decided that, unless legally required, we won't need to hire security... Just remind everyone: "You break your ****, it's your fault... You break someone else's ****, it's your fault... Someone else break's their ****, it's their fault... Don't be careless
- Photojournalists - Andrew has a guy that does photos for free IIRC (photography major, does it for fun and to build up his portfolio)... That being said, if we do get Good Game or another gaming news site to plug us, they may send out their own journalists to document the event... Regardless, we should NOT need to pay one (even if neither of the above happened, we can easily make do with our own cameras + facebook it
Anyone else that was there, if I've missed anything or written something down wrong let me know :D
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)... I really don't see a lack of volunteers, put it that way :D Plus, we can always get some extra TOs (lackeys :D) to pick up the slack if it comes to pass ) but my reasoning is that, whilst all of the top 16 matches prob won't be exciting, the top 16 in Aussie Brawl are quite evenly matched, and thus there is a very high chance of some epic sets that won't be in top 8...
I haven't played it for a while, but always game to give it a bash.You should've been there bob!
Anyone been playing TvC lately? Or has the hype died down completely?
BULL****
It was mainly Andrew who was against it, mainly because he thought it redundant (I think the words used were "who would be interested in watching random Perth scrubs get beaten?" to which I replied, top 16 in a 100+ man tournament wouldn't be random scrubs
)... The other argument would be the aforementioned bottleneck of matches, which is easily overcome by having two recording set-ups... If that's the case, I might purchase that Dazzle off you like I said I might ages ago Vlade (provided it works on my piece o' crock laptop ) as I recall you saying you wanted to get a newer, better recording setup??? I'll clarify with you later Nice, nice :D Hopefully there's a nice white wall to project onto
As awesome and pretty as your design was, we agreed that it lacked focus on the information... If someone could post up the SF4 poster, you'll notice a massive difference in where the focus lies...
If you want to submit another poster design then we'll rediscuss the poster situation, however I'd see the SF4 poster before you make one to get a look at the type of thing we're after ^^It's not bull**** - I reckon you'd come to a lot more tournaments if you had one or two more people to do the road trip down here with you for the Brawl tournaments
Safe to say, too, that I wouldn't be in the scene had I not had Sean and Louai to drag along to the first couple of tournaments, and THEN where'd you be, huh??? (rhetorical question - anyone who answers that is a douche beyond that which other douches can fathom )Useful as it may be, no hacks in any way shape or form should be allowed to be used... Just opens up more loopholes for people to jump through if they lose a match, and we don't want to have to spend time dealing with frivolity like that
)... Keep in mind that I'm sure Easterners would ALSO have recording set-ups that they'd probably bring regardless of whether they'd be used on the tourney day, given that they may want to record friendlies against Perth people :D Could cut it from one of the various group photos we've done (the brawl one, or the various NvS ones )
I can see where he's coming from but his point of view is limited to the street fighter community where NO-ONE cares about australia as far as I'm aware, unlike smash because I know for a fact that people are actually somewhat interested in viewing top international matches - several american players I've talked to (over the internet) keep track of Shaya's youtube channel for example. Btw I imagine Shaya's coming to this so he'd also have a recording setup (and he'll wanna record finals for his channel probs, which I have no qualms with).It was mainly Andrew who was against it, mainly because he thought it redundant (I think the words used were "who would be interested in watching random Perth scrubs get beaten?" to which I replied, top 16 in a 100+ man tournament wouldn't be random scrubs
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