Villains Mafia - X1-12 lynched! Town wins! X1-12, Indie survivor, wins a bit less!

[Rajam]

Let me get this straight.

I've offered a situation in which townSwiss finds a scum and dies to verify he isn't lying.

It's a situation in which scumSwiss would doe 2Mo.

Hence, my death is guaranteed. Can someone explain to me why ScumSwiss would do this? O HAI SWISS GO DIE KK I WIN! O wait. Ya.

No. I'm not claiming. Vanz should already have figured out what role I have.

The only possible gain I can see from ScumSwiss doing this is me taking a pathetic and immature pleasure in delaying my inevitable lynch by one day.

Raj, why are you not pushing the EP lynch now that it looks like I'm the easiest lynch?

Vanz. Srsly. Just....read. I don't expect to change X1's mind (he isn't indie btw) but YOU are towns only hope!

Think of the children!

uh? where was that, which post?

? It's not like I think you're town... just a minutes ago I was fine with either Edreeses or you being lynched, though it seemed to me Edreeses was a better play. In fact I still do but I'll go with vander and follow his recommendation. If you think I'm scum or other player is scum, then it's more to you convince to change the pressure to that player specially because you're about to get lynched

 

[Rajam]

Rajam, while you're on a posting fit, can I ask you who do you think MK Jailed N1?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11469934&postcount=769

According to this there is a high chance Edreeses was jailed n1. The miss seems true whichever Edreeses' alliance is. Other options I believe could be J, Zen (who was playing weird day 1), or some other active player. I doubt Sir B or Zac could've been jailed by him any night

 

[X1-12]

props to you.



REMINDER TO ALL

Swiss is L-2, don't vote for him unless Vand is online and viewing the thread (and preferably Swiss is offline) so Vand can have the hammer

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Rajam I think there are def indies im this game and i think the last scum and indie are hiding between u and swiss. i cant differentiate between
indy and mafia really, i can only spot scum play... not very good at deciding whether the anti town player is town or scum.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

i mean wethwr the anti town player is indy or mafia.

oh btw im no longer v/la starting later tonight so i can participate more consostintly again

 

[Rajam]

Raj. Imo.

Zac if we really had to push it but that'd be a lucky hit.

Vanz eat a biscuit and look for.....OMG YES

@ X1 - that was because my scumbuddies wouldn't do as they were told >_<

Which attitude or posts of Zac make you think he is scummy, more than total inactive?

Zac, what do you think of J's flip? and what are your thoughts on Gordito/Swiss and Edreeses?

Sir Bedevere, what do you think of Zac? and who do you think is indy?

 

[vanderzant]

*waits for someone to come online*

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Swiss will flip scum. Or indy lol.

@X1/EP: Tomorrow if we had to lynch between Sir Bed and UTD, who would you pick?

 

[Sir Bedevere]

oh man i'm bad

Must sleep, will do stuff tomorrow. I can claim if you guys want me to, but I'll say right now you won't know anything I can do unless I explain my role fully lol.

@Rajam, Zac is super town for using that ability then, I don't know why scum would be able to make themselves unlynchable. Now, if Zac's scum PARTNER had that ability, and could make anyone else unlynchable, or Zac was forced to use it D2 to create WIFOM for town, that'd be reasonable, but they're both pretty unlikely, so I don't think he's mafia. Could he be indie? Possibly, and he'll likely end up being a good lynch if we catch all the scum and the game doesn't end.

If I were to guess who's indie...either you or EP. Looking at how much stress OS put on hiding your identity, and seeing as there's no killing indy, I would guess that our indy is a "Name Hunter", a role I almost used in a set-up I'm making, that needs to learn everyone's identity in the game to win. They probably also have a name-cop ability to go along with it (cop+rolecop+name cop in one game omg), and seeing as I know my role isn't that, Zac has already used his unlynchability (and is thus unlikely to have that in addition to having such a simple wincon, though it's still possible), van is probably not indy and is likely to die anyway, X1 seems to be the force voter, and Swiss is more likely to be mafia than indy at this point, that just leaves you two as unknowns.

On that note, Swiss, don't char claim. If our indy wins alone when he reaches his win con, you'll lose us all the game if we decide not to lynch you for some ungodly reason.

Although you should roleclaim because I'm superhappy just putting my vote on you right now and, if you've legit breadcrumbed your role and van can find it, I don't see why scum can't find it too. >.>

also I don't know wtf kind of jan you guys have been playing with, but generally, the janitor is ALWAYS a mafia role that both kills a players and hides their role/alignment for the mafia. Sometimes mafia can substitute the janitor's kill for their mafia kill indefinitely until their jan is killed, sometimes the Jan can only be replaced in for the mafia's kill once (i.e. it's one-shot), and I think it's also possible for the jan kill to be its own separate kill from the mafia kill that basically acts as a one-shot vig (jan) kill for the mafia in addition to their regular kill(which may have happened here). Mabe it was actually just an SK kill+jan kill that I'm thinking about, but w/e, van seems to have info that suggests its not.

 

[Sir Bedevere]

oh hai

you want hammer?

 

[vanderzant]

yeah let's hammer him.

he said he'd be lynched before he claimed.

 

[vanderzant]

Interesting thought about the name indy too. We don't have a "killing" indy per se, so that's a possibility.

I was thinking that the vote manipulator might be the indy (could make sense, that's be useful for an indy) but then I realised no one was forced toDay, so J was probably the vote manipulator.

It makes sense too because he tried to create ALOT of wifom about the vote manipulation (targeting X1 pretty unreasonably). It's partially why I think he got killed.

 

[Sir Bedevere]

Not necessarily, it could just be that the force voter hasn't gotten around to using their power yet. I don't think there was much of a reason to (although I don't think the last two cases had much reason either, heh).

*checks*

Swiss does not appear online.

Vote: Swiss

No whammies?

 

[vanderzant]

Vote: Swiss

yaaayyyy.

 

[vanderzant]

Well on Day 1 it helped scum/indy lynch the vig (who is a danger to them)

Day 2 I think scum used it as a way to WIFOM up the Dastrn/Rajam situation.

Hopefully there is no indy :D

 

[Sir Bedevere]

TBH I probably should have reread and stuff before making decisions like this, but I couldn't see this day ending in anything but a Swiss lynch. :/ Will be using the Night to its fullest to get **** done.

^this will sound bad is Swiss flips town lol (but he won't :>)

 

[vanderzant]

Nah it's ok. Lynching scum is always a good option.

So guys if I die remember my plan.

 

[Sir Bedevere]

I just don't see why a scum force voter wouldn't just use their force vote on MK to make him lose his abilities, ESPECIALLY after they used their role cop on him and knew that was how MK's PR worked. They wouldn't have even had to kill MK last Night; they'd get rid of both you and him in one swoop with a force vote. Yeah, OK, it makes MK obvtown at that point, but getting rid of strong PRs is much more to scum's advantage then having random cleared VTs they can take into endgame, at least IMO.

Unless MK DIDN'T have any restrictions, which would be interesting, but unlikely (because thinking of a restriction like that at the beginning of D1 is o_O).

 

[Sir Bedevere]

"Yeah, OK, it makes MK obvtown at that point, but having random cleared VTs they can take into endgame is a fine sacrifice for getting rid of strong PRs, at least IMO."

fix'd

 

[Overswarm]

Final Votecount:


Swiss (4) - X1-12, EdreesesPieces, Sir Bedevere, Vanderzant

Not Voting - Rajam, UTDZac, , Sir Bedevere, Vanderzant, Swiss

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


Swiss (Robokiyu, Mafia Janitor) has been lynched!

A corpse was discovered!

J, (Carnage, Mafia Yakuza) was revealed!

Night THREE begins.
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, October 27th, at 3:00 p.m. EST
Send in your Night Actions faster and the Day starts faster.

 

[vanderzant]

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. But maybe if you are told by the mod you HAVE to do something, that over rules the voting restriction. Or maybe the manipulator knew that it would not affect persons with voting restrictions...

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So many invisibles lol.

 

[Overswarm]

Vanderzant (Shao Kahn, town soul stealer) has been killed during the Night!

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Friday, November 5th, at 3:00 p.m. EST




Sorry this was late. I blame my girlfriend, even though I only saw her after work. >_>

(I forgot)

 

[vanderzant]

Go town!!!!

 

[UTDZac]

At the end of Day 3 it was 7 alive 4 to lynch. We killed G/Swiss then Van was Nked. Now it says with 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch? Am I missing something?

 

[X1-12]

PEOPLE DO NOT VOTE, theres, a small chance it may be lylo

@EP, this is important, what results did you get last night, was it more than 1 person? You don't need to reveal your ability, I picked it up from vand breadcrumbing.

massclaim might me in order soon, everyone wait until we have and order sortes though

 

[Rajam]

There are still mafia, or was it just an indy?

I mean four mafia for a 12 game people seems weird...

 

[X1-12]

@EP, this is important, what results did you get last night, was it more than 1 person? You don't need to reveal your ability, I picked it up from vand breadcrumbing.

Back on my PC now, I want to hear this before we do anything

 

[Rajam]

X1, what kind of scum do you think is left? (mafia, idny, both... ?)

 

[X1-12]

it depends, Vand killed J n2, but presumably J used his recruiting ability the same night meaning someone may or may not have been recruited

 

[X1-12]

to clarify, unless I'm mistaken, the Yakuza role allows you to recruit 1 player into a mafia goon but kills the yakuza in the process. Can't check this because I can't get onto mafiascum wiki

 

[Rajam]

Wait, if the Yakuza suicides in the proccess of recruiting someone, why do you say vander NKilled him?

 

[Overswarm]

At the end of Day 3 it was 7 alive 4 to lynch. We killed G/Swiss then Van was Nked. Now it says with 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch? Am I missing something?

That was my bad. I had a busy day yesterday and had to rush that, forgot to remove Vanderzant from the living players count.

Currently living players:
Rajam
UTDZac
X1-12
EdreesesPieces
Sir Bedevere

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

 

[X1-12]

Wait, if the Yakuza suicides in the proccess of recruiting someone, why do you say vander NKilled him?

Vand gained the Vig power because he hammered Xys/Tan I don't think he killed Meta-Kirby do you? It depends if kill takes priority over recruiting. I have a bit more to explain but it relies on hearing from EP first

 

[EdreesesPieces]

I've got some major crucial information.

It's pretty clear Vander steals peoples abilities when he hammers them. Here he breadcrumbs that he vigged J: (From asborbing Tandora's power):

Oh and there is no way mafia would be able to have a double kill where 1 kill is a jan. That's ridiculous. Scum obviously killed MK because they knew he was jailer (through Dastrn). I have a pretty good idea what went down with J's kill though, but it's not neccesary info atm.

J was scum (or MAYBE indy). There was no Janitor. Trust me. If there is still an indy alive, they are not a night killing indy (unless they have been targeting the same players as scum each night).

@Swiss: already know how J died. Just don't know why his alignment was hidden.

Here he makes it REAL clear:

I don't want people to really waste time discussing the j ??? Flip or the idea of indys. Right now lynching the scum partner of Dastrn is how town will win. I can explain a lot of this once I claim, but we need to discuss this.

This suggests he was def the one that vigged J and also, that he steals peoples souls when he hamners them. This leads me into my point, that he stole Dastrn's soul D2 and I believe that he used it to scan me. That's how he knew that I used my ability on him and why he trusted me. He mis trusted me at first because he said:

Unvote: EdreesesPieces

HOLY **** I may have stuffed up. Sorry guys

I skimmed real bad. Like the worlds greatest ever skim.

EP I apologise for this temporarily. Answer this question though. Was I the first person you targeted with your ability? Don't claim I just need to know this, yes or no.

So Vander knows what ability I have and he knows what it does. I will reveal it soon, but not yet. Will explain why later in this post.

Here Van outlines the "plan"

See I also have plan.

1. Lynch Swiss.
1a. If scum game is won as long as we cull our potential indys
1b. If town I am night killed by scum
???? shenanigans
2. Town lynch the scum who killed me.

Step 4 is crucial. It's related to my ability, which I will claim shortly. Van knew I have a way of finding the person who killed him, it's related to the fact that I used my ability on him. It's because I'm Town Watcher. And I decided to watch Vanderzant n1, and it "failed", but I DID use it on d2, and it worked. I've been watching him ever since, and last night, I know visited him when he died. I chose to watch him because he was so pro town I suspected he'd get NK'd eventually, so I figured I"d see the scum that did it.

Vander even knew this would happen, look:

Ep you see what I'm getting at with my plan?

As long as you claim tomorrow town should be able to win.

Vander knew that by claiming town watcher if he got killed I'd KNOW who killed him and would be able to tell town who it was and probably end the game with that lynch. He even reminds us:

So guys if I die remember my plan.

Before I reveal who I saw and what I saw, I'd like everyones top scum picks. This is important, I want to see how this person reacts and everyones stances before I reveal it. I'll let you guys know who visited Vander very very soon, just would like you guys to answer this question before I do. I want to hold this person accountable for their opinions after they are targetted so they don't try to find an excuse or bull**** their way out of it. Also want to see other people's opinions in the slight chance that this lynch doesn't end the day. It is NOT lylo right now. If I'm lying or wrong you can go ahead and lynch me Tomorrow. If you guys feel I should reveal the person now, I will do so as long as the majority of you thinks that would be best. But I'd like to get the answer to this question from all of you before I do it:

X1, UTD, Sir Bevedere, Rajam, who do you guys think is the play?

 

[X1-12]

@EP: I need to know who visited Vand, I know one of the people who did, I assume there was another. Who the play is depends on your answer, as soon as you tell me who it is I think I can 100% win this for town


@ALL: Think whether you want EP to tell us who visited Vand before you decide who is the play. I think its better if EP tells us first

 

[X1-12]

Actually EP just forget everything except tell us who targeted Vand. I 100% guarantee I can win this for town if you tell now.

 

[X1-12]

Actually EP just forget everything except tell us who targeted Vand. I 100% guarantee I can win this for town if you tell now.

emphasis needed

 

[EdreesesPieces]

X1, if I didn't target Vander with my watching ability, and we were in this stage of the game right now, who would you think is the play for the day?

 

[EdreesesPieces]

My ability specifically states that I see EVERYONE who visits my target. So if multiple people visited him I would see it, btw.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

I'm not gonna reveal it yet because I'd like people's nonbiased opinions. It's important.

 

[UTDZac]

Rajam
UTDZac - Town Unvotable
X1-12
EdreesesPieces - Town Watcher
Sir Bedevere

Ok these are the only two abilities we've seen right (from people who aren't dead)?

What are we trying to find right now: Are all of the scum dead or are we just looking for an indie?

Was somebody recruited into mafia and we don't know who? When did this happen (day #)? Is it possible it was EP?

Trying to catch up. I figured this would be fastest to get me back into toDay and get going.