Villager Moveset and Analysis Thread (:

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Roger you picked the absolute BEST fan mashup I've ever heard for the AC series, props to you on that.

Petition to have the next Animal Crossing game be titled "Animal Crossing: Good Day".

 

[Kazoochachoo]

Personally I really hope the next Animal Crossing title has some Smash-related items you can decorate your house with in reference to your player character's Smash Crusades. Maybe some flavor text NPCs spout when they notice them. Maybe Isabelle says something about being an assist trophy, there's so many possibilities. But that's not really related to this.

BotanicSage is my favorite vidya mashup artist on that note .... also not related.

As for something that IS related, I wonder how long it's gonna take to catalog all the things the Villager can pocket. It's probably got to be most near everything.

 

[Raider 88]

Just played the demo (and Smash 4 in general for the first time), and I was surprised how much I liked Villager! The only thing I really don't like is his fair/bair. The projectile/range is pretty cool, but it just seems like the moves could be somewhat different.

 

[rsniteblaze]

Link's Hylian Shield can block Villager's F-Smash, F-Air/B-Air, dash attack, Side-B, and the tree from Down-B.

It's too early to tell since I've only been playing CPU players, but this might make the match up against Link very difficult. It seems difficult enough because of Link's range and faster projectiles, but if Link can block Villager's kill moves (F-Smash and Down-B) with just the Hylian Shield and punish back with his own attack, then how should Villager approach Link?

 

[Wasoodle]

Playing the demo now and gotta say I love his nair. Can lead up to a lot of different moves, so awesome!

 

[Beatness]

Anyone find some killer combos?

 

[Gameboi834]

Holy hell his bowling ball attack when it connects has SO MUCH knockback.

 

[Wasoodle]

I did down tilt -> uptilt -> fair/nair a bunch of times. Triple turnips can spike. Oh, and Lloid Rocket is like the best move ever.

 

[MF_Senzu]

I have a feeling Villager will be extremely viable once we really get him figured out.

 

[TM_icecream]

From my own tests in the demo:
All moves were done on lvl 1 Mario, trying to keep loves fresh by dying.
Usmash is hard to track, but the total is accurate.
Villager move set:
Jab 1: 3%
Jab 2: 3%
Ftilt: 9%
Dtilt strong hit: 13%
Dtilt weak hit: 8%
Utilt 1: 6%
Utilt 2: 5%
Fsmash: 15%
Fsmash full charge: 21%
Dsmash 1: 7%
Dsmash 1 full charge: 9%
Dsmash 2: 7%
Dsmash 2 full charge: 9%
Usmash 1: 3%
Usmash 2: 1%
Usmash 3: 1%
Usmash 4: 1%
Usmash 5: 1%
Usmash 6: 4%
Total usmash: 11%
Usmash 1 full charge: 5%
Usmash 2 full charge: 2%
Usmash 3 full charge: 2%
Usmash 4 full charge: 2%
Usmash 5 full charge: 2%
Usmash 6 full charge: 6%
Total usmash full charge: 16%(the sand bag is lying about something here)
Dash attack: 10%
Dash attack(pot projectile): 6%
Side B nude: 7%
Side B nude no fire: 5%
Side B nude explosion hit: 12%
Side B ridden: 17%
Side B ridden no fire: 12%
Down b, axe: 14%
Down b, tree: 25%
Down B, tree weak hit: 15%
Log throw: 3%
Log shot(timber flying out of the free when chopped down): 8%
Pummel: 3%
Bthrow: 11%
Fthrow: 9%
Uthrow: 10%
Dthrow: 4%
Dair 3 turnips: 13%
Dair 2 turnips: 10%
Dair 1 turnip: 8%
Fair strong hit: 7%
Fair medium hit: 4%
Fair weak hit: 3%
Bair strong hit: 9%
bair medium hit: 5%
Bair weak hit: 3%
Uair 3 turnips: 13%
Uair 3 turnips weak hit: 6%
Uair 2 turnips: 10%
Uair 2 turnips weak hit: 5%
Uair 1 turnip: 8%
Uair 1 turnip weak hit: 4%
Nair strong hit: 9%
Nair weak hit: 5%
Get Up attack ledge under 100%: 7%

Mario's fireball does 4% normally
9% out of villagers pocket
This is over double the damage of the original move

 

[TM_icecream]

I'm puttin da lab time in on this demo no worries

I'm gonna be the best villager ever so get to know me :D
I've determined that his pocket can only hold an item for 30 seconds, then it goes away.
It also goes away when you die. I don't THINK damage taken has an affect on the pocket, but hard to test that vs CPUs on the demo.

The tree, once watered, grows up, and it growing has a hitbox that like actually kills. I haven't gotten percent data on it cuz the CPU needs to be conveniently above where it grows, which is tough. But I did kill a link with it at like 140% which is high but still

 

[Muhznit]

I think some testing may need to be done to see if the tree can grow ANYWHERE or just certain platforms. I managed to plant a sapling on a Rolling Crate, but when I tried to water it, the crate took off.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I think some testing may need to be done to see if the tree can grow ANYWHERE or just certain platforms. I managed to plant a sapling on a Rolling Crate, but when I tried to water it, the crate took off.

Well this should mean that any solid ground.

I wanna try growing mine on Dungeon Man in Magicant.

 

[Bobojack]

I've determined that his pocket can only hold an item for 30 seconds, then it goes away.

Im also in the lab right now. You can refresh the time by taking it out and pocket it again (You can test it with the woodchip for example). I also cut the tree down 100 times. I know it isnt really realible to use these numbers as the final %s but I listed the drops and how many times I got them:

Woodchips: 55
Nothing: 43
Fruit (I got a pair both times): 2

I know that the tree can drop a Maxim Tomato but I didnt got it 1 time. It seems to have a reallyyy low chance.

You cann also have multiple Woodchips on the field.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

If Mario capes you while you're riding Lloid Rocket, then when the rocket explodes, you'll end up being exploded too.

 

[Player-1]

Does the fruit appear even with items off?

 

[Twewy]

Has anyone else noticed you can water another Villager's tree sprout yet?

 

[Bobojack]

Does the fruit appear even with items off?

I got them while playing on the FD version of Battlefield (there are no items) and in the trainingstage.

@ Twewy Well, I couldnt do it, even though I tried it 2-3 times..

 

[FalconFire93]

I've played with Villager quite a few times in the demo, and he has an impressive moveset, and he is definitely gonna be one of my new mains when the full game comes out

 

[meleebrawler]

Does the fruit appear even with items off?

Did you just set item frequency to none? Or did you actually turn food and tomatoes off?

 

[TM_icecream]

You can water other villagers trees, I saw denti do it in the JP demo. They also tried cutting down both trees at the same time, which cause the game to lag a TON

This a is a good strat to use in dubs lol

Do the fruit heal you or are they items?

 

[Twewy]

You can water other villagers trees, I saw denti do it in the JP demo. They also tried cutting down both trees at the same time, which cause the game to lag a TON

Well, I guess it's good I didn't cut that other Villager's tree down then...

 

[Prince Lolz]

They fixed that. Two sprouts can be put close together, but watering them causes one to vanish.

 

[Twewy]

They fixed that. Two sprouts can be put close together, but watering them causes one to vanish.

Damn, already?

 

[Prince Lolz]

Damn, already?

In the American demo, so I assume the japanese demo and full version as well.
Watering can grow enemy sprouts but It takes a bit longer, and enemy trees can be cut down no problem.
Watering can on players dosent push them like it used to.

 

[Bobojack]

Do the fruit heal you or are they items?

They heal you. I dont know how much (You have always 0% in the sandbag room) but Id guess ~3-5%.

 

[Muhznit]

In the American demo, so I assume the japanese demo and full version as well.
Watering can grow enemy sprouts but It takes a bit longer, and enemy trees can be cut down no problem.
Watering can on players dosent push them like it used to.

Could've sworn I saw the watering can move NPCs when I was using it. I can definitely confim ir pushes things at least; if you plant a tree on a rolling crate, the crate takes off before it grows.

I can also comfirm the Villager's Dair DOES spike, though the hitbox is hard to land. Both times I managed to so so, i was moving upwards, kind of right after my double jump.

 

[TM_icecream]

Just got the dair spike~ it's not a super strong spike but it works.

Watering can def pushes people in the American demo

 

[FalconFire93]

The following gif explains why Villager is OP

He can pocket certain attacks

Samus: Take this!
Villager: Thank you, I will!

 

[TM_icecream]

He can pocket any projectile in the game ya

Also just updated my damage post. It's pretty complete now, still need getup attack over 100% and getup attack from laying down

 

[Captain Norris]

Villager's down b will very very rarely give fruit. I have only gotten three in hundreds of tree spams. Here are pics:

Spoiler

 

[TM_icecream]

I just pulled my first fruit. It was a cherry, actually, but I didn't take a picture because I'm stupid

 

[Captain Norris]

In the American demo, so I assume the japanese demo and full version as well.
Watering can grow enemy sprouts but It takes a bit longer, and enemy trees can be cut down no problem.
Watering can on players dosent push them like it used to.

I got two trees up at one point and they stayed up. then i cut them. Never again.

 

[DoubleYooToo]

So... any discussion about Villager's abhorrent, disgraceful, completely and utterly character destroyingly slow grab animation?

Probably the worst move in Smash history.

 

[TM_icecream]

DEFINITELY not lol. It's pretty bad, but it isn't THAT bad lol

 

[Bobojack]

Allright, a fruit heals 1%. Its useless.

 

[Knife Myths]

Setting saplings next to each other is weird in the US demo. Sometimes only one tree will grow, either yours or the enemy's, sometimes they'll both grow but sometimes one will vanish immediately, sometimes you'll be able to chop the enemy's tree down but not walk through it or damage them with it...needs a patch, in my opinion.

 

[Count Bleck]

So, proof of maxim tamato is right here...

#bannedfromtournaments

 

[TM_icecream]

Allright, a fruit heals 1%. Its useless.

But it's so rare that it's hypeeee

 

[Mrwiiboy]

What are the customs?