Unpopular Smash Opinions (BE CIVIL)

[fogbadge]

We don't need a Smash Bros. Movie. Do people really want this?

I know I don’t

 

[UserKev]

I know I don’t

It's an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I think a Smash movie would feel like a giant insult if it was the only ever fully-animated iteration of some characters, and that would apply even if it did go for a more whimsical tone. I already feel this way pretty strongly about trailers and story mode cutscenes, but Duck Hunt's fully-animated theatrical debut should be way more than just another of 60-something bootleg Avengers.

In other words: Make a Duck Hunt movie.

 

[Perkilator]

We don't need a Smash Bros. Movie. Do people really want this?

I can agree with you in that, I can tell you that much.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I can't imagine one would be written well in general.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I don't want a Smash movie, but I wouldn't mind a general Nintendo crossover limited series. Basically, each episode would be about one first party series crossing over with another in their own unique story. You could probably keep it fairly conventional in the first season (Metroid with Star Fox, Zelda with Kid Icarus, Wario Land/Ware with DK, Kirby with Pikmin, Pokemon with Earthbound) and then get a little wackier in the season after.

 

[Lenidem]

We don't need a Smash Bros. Movie. Do people really want this?

I honestly don't get this kind of messages. We don't need a lot of stuff. Like, we didn't need a Mario Bros. movie. We don't even need, I don't know, video games. Yet when they do exist, if they are good, we are a little bit happier.

Do I want a Smash Bros. movie? No. Do I think a Smash Bros. movie would work? Probably not, at least, I don't see how. But it could. So I would like a good Smash Bros. movie, although it seems very unlikely, so I would never actively campaign for it.

 

[UserKev]

I honestly don't get this kind of messages. We don't need a lot of stuff. Like, we didn't need a Mario Bros. movie. We don't even need, I don't know, video games. Yet when they do exist, if they are good, we are a little bit happier.

Do I want a Smash Bros. movie? No. Do I think a Smash Bros. movie would work? Probably not, at least, I don't see how. But it could. So I would like a good Smash Bros. movie, although it seems very unlikely, so I would never actively campaign for it.

We do need video games. That's a moot take my friend. You could've made a point without mentioning that ridicule.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

There are two problems with a Smash movie as a concept, at least to me.

For one, the heart of the series has always been non-story oriented matches, not narratives. The latter is a nice bonus when tried, and it can add to the overall experience, but realistically it's not the thing that sells the game the mass audience. Subspace Emissary was the biggest attempt at making an actual coherent story out of all these disparate franchises, yet a lot of the criticism towards was based around how unsatisfying the gameplay was outside actual matches and boss fights. SSB is one of the greatest crossovers of all time, but a lot of that is rooted in a gameplay emphasis and allowing players to apply that crossover element (stages, characters, items) in the way that they want, which is something you can't really do in a non-interactive media like film or television.

The second is that even if somehow there was a coherent story to be had from it, a movie can't really do justice to the notable characters involved, especially given the sheer quantity of them now in the series. You'd have to greatly pare down the cast to the relevant players (which would upset those that had their favorites minimized) or you have a potential film that would be a bit overwhelming to an audience because it having to keep its focus on so many different figures.

Its why I'm more in favor if just a Nintendo crossover series that sticks to a specific mixing of two franchises per episode to allow the characters to breathe and really take advantage of the stranger in a strange land potential on both sides.

 

[AlRex]

Some characters could do well with just a series of shorts, some could do well with series, a few could do well with full movies, and shoving them all in one movie would require a deft hand, at the very least. It’s not impossible, but it’d probably have to be just a bit irreverent, like the LEGO movies, or at least have the joke kind of be that you’re somehow taking a “Solid Snake VS Isabelle VS Ridley VS Wario” movie seriously. You’d have to create something itself that leans into the disparate nature, rather than trying to make any sort of coherent cinematic universe out of it.

 

[TheZizz]

I guess this is an unpopular opinion these days, but donkey Kong 64 is ultra mid. It has a stout heart, but that will not save it .. the versus multiplayer is highly underrated however, the mechanics just fall into place somehow

 

[Perkilator]

I've said this before in the Next Smash thread but IMO, it bears repeating: I think Crash has the best chance out of all the Microsoft reps due to how much more popular he is in Japan compared to the competition.

 

[Laniv]

I guess this is an unpopular opinion these days, but donkey Kong 64 is ultra mid. It has a stout heart, but that will not save it .. the versus multiplayer is highly underrated however, the mechanics just fall into place somehow

...Is this really an unpopular opinion?? Most people I talk to about DK64 says it's kinda blah

 

[Lenidem]

We do need video games. That's a moot take my friend. You could've made a point without mentioning that ridicule.

No, we don't. If you think you do, that's sad.

 

[UserKev]

No, we don't. If you think you do, that's sad.

We actually need video games. It's scientifically proven. The amount of time you spend playing them is up to the individual. Me? I only play old school games when I do play them.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

i don't really like of people calling that Shadow deserve to be a echo fighter of Sonic, because that sounds like that Smash fans don't know Shadow's powers, Shadow have Chaos Control, have teleport, have Chaos Spear, have squid form, have Doom Wings, he is so different than Sonic, it makes sense anyone saying that Shadow deserve to have his own moveset than being a echo fighter, it's the same thing of anyone saying that Gooey have to be a Kirby's echo fighter than have an unique moveset

 

[Louie G.]

i don't really like of people calling that Shadow deserve to be a echo fighter of Sonic, because that sounds like that Smash fans don't know Shadow's powers, Shadow have Chaos Control, have teleport, have Chaos Spear, have squid form, have Doom Wings, he is so different than Sonic, it makes sense anyone saying that Shadow deserve to have his own moveset than being a echo fighter, it's the same thing of anyone saying that Gooey have to be a Kirby's echo fighter than have an unique moveset

No offense, but we all said the same thing about Dark Samus. Just because a character doesn't need to be a clone doesn't mean they can't or won't be.

Shadow can still be functionally similar to Sonic in nearly every way with a couple flourishes like animation adjustments (see: Dark Samus) and a new teleport move (see: Chrom). I think Shadow is best served as a Falco-esque semiclone, but a Shadow echo is not that ridiculous in a vacuum.

 

[Perkilator]

Shadow still has plenty of material to pull from Sonic Battle alone for a unique moveset. Yeah, they can re-use Sonic's skeleton to make development easier, but that shouldn't necessarily make him an Echo Fighter.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I don't get why people composite together the retro series in "giving each series a newcomer" projects. The only one I think has limited options is maybe ROB, but Game & Watch reaches a lot wider than people think (there are original, named characters in G&W games, and technically Stanley is a G&W character before a DK character at least in chronology); Duck Hunt in Smash's content comprises 3 games - arguably 4 - one of which (Wild Gunman) has an ensemble cast to choose from that already has a major role in Smash as is; and Ice Climber has 4 other characters to choose from, two of which (the JP and US Topis) would make a really obvious duo character.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

He has enough to work with and has had enough to work with since even before Shadow Generations.

That being said, he isn't safe from being an Echo on grounds that it is not only possible, but it has happened a number of times in-series, including his debut in Adventure 2.

It would be best if he was more like Luigi is to Mario at worst, but the option for a full Echo, as disappointing as it is, is unfortunately still there.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

If Sonic was to get the amount of characters usually reserved for 1P characters, it would be the perfect series to take the Zelda cross-iteration approach to. "Meta-era" Sonic, Classic Tails, Adventure-era Knuckles, "Dark age" or Frontiers-era Shadow, and either AOSTH or Jim Carrey Robotnik feels like a really neat lineup for those who are so deep into Sonic lore they'd know the differences.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

We actually need video games. It's scientifically proven. The amount of time you spend playing them is up to the individual. Me? I only play old school games when I do play them.

I'd like a source saying specifically video games are needed.

A source of entertainment? Sure. That's important for mental health. But it doesn't have to be video games.