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Yikes, I felt Sheik was going to be a spicy take when I posted LOL

But yeah Ocarina of Time is huge and Sheik plays a big part of the story. I know people like to rag on OoT for being overrated/overrepresented, but I feel Sheik is a strong character choice outside strictly fighting style. She's not as much as Fox or Samus in popularity, but she's up there.
 

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The following characters are equivalent in strength when it comes to their popularity or relevance to Nintendo (or gaming as a whole)

:ulticeclimbers:
:ultrob:
:ultfalco:
:ultgnw:
:ultlucas:
:ultjigglypuff:
:ultzss:
:ultroy:
Ashley
Waluigi
Geno
Takamaru
Mach Rider
Krystal
Andy (Advance Wars)

While these characters are (or would be) nice additions to the roster, they are absolutely inconsequential to it.

:ultpiranha::ultwiifittrainer:and:ultsheik: are slightly above all of these characters simply because of the massive recognizability to them.

There are other veterans I might put on this list, but most of them are either echoes, clones or characters from modern franchises that still have some novelty to them, so they don't really fit.

Edit: Im on the fence about Ness in hindsight. Is he popular because of Smash or is he just popular?
Honestly the major two gripes I have are with saying R.O.B. is unimportant and that Waluigi is somehow less recognizable than Piranha Plant. The former was Nintendo's Trojan Horse that secured home consoles' place on store shelves in the US while the latter is a near ever-present mainstay in the Mario spin-offs, including Mario Kart, which is among the best selling game franchises in the world.

Outside of those (and maaaaaaybe Falco and Jigglypuff depending on how much nostalgia is valued) I pretty much agree though.
 

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Sooo....Geno is basically Mario’s Sheik then?:4pacman:

-While I do hate cuts like everyone else, I don’t think they’re that bad.
Like company issue cuts like :ultcloud: and :ultsnake: would suck hard, I mean hell, it’s Smash 101 that cutting clones like :ultdoc: and :ultdarkpit:won’t magically give you a brand new character but the only reason would they even be missed is because of gameplay reasons, they obviously have mains and nobody likes having their main removed.

But if you ask me, cutting unique characters like :ultpiranha::ultwiifittrainer: & :ultcorrin: in favor for Waluigi, Dixie, & Bandana Dee sounds like a good deal to me.

Now if you’ll excuse, I need to hide in my bunker from he upcoming angry WFT/Corrin/PP mains.
As a Wii Fit Trainer and a former Corrin main, I have already accepted that they both have a huge possibility of getting cut in the next Smash.
 
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To the guy who wrote that he didn't want the Grinch leak to be true because it looked like a check list that didn't excite him at all, and whose post I cannot find anymore: I fail to see how a single Pokémon can be more exciting than Isaac, Geno, Banjo, Mack Rider, the Chorus Kids and Shadow put together.

I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I think Piranha plants addition was pretty silly. In terms of Mario characters, they were so many more that would have made more sense, not just Geno. King boo in particular. It's not an entitlement thing, I'll take a new character over not having a new character, but they could have appealed to a wider fan base which is generally want you would want to do? At least they did a good job with him.
What was really ridiculous was showing Plant after a whole round of new and popular Assist Trophies, never mind pointing out that Plant wasn't an AT itself. That was extremely stupid and no amount of excuses will ever make me forgive them for being so heartless to wait so long showing some of these like Isaac and Shadow and then reveal a standard Mario mook was playable instead.
My thought exactly. So many good and/or wanted characters were deconfirmed during this direct that when watching Piranha Plant I was half expecting Sakurai to say 'Just kidding. Here is the real newcomer'. Not saying that it was intentional, of course, but ending the last direct with this after, well, zero good news and some bad ones, left me in a state of total disappointment and incomprehension.

In fact, I would go further: in my opinion, Piranha Plant is a bad joke pushed way too far. Guess that makes me 'salty'.

Oh, and comments like 'Sakurai-sama, blessed His name, gave his life for us ungrateful worms' are a disgraceful way to end a conversation. Personnaly, I'm here to talk about the game, not about the people behind it.
 
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But if you ask me, cutting unique characters like :ultpiranha::ultwiifittrainer: & :ultcorrin: in favor for Waluigi, Dixie, & Bandana Dee sounds like a good deal to me.
To be fair, Skaurai did say that Smash 6 could have up to only a third of SSBU's roster size, which basically guarantees cuts, I I don't see any of those 3 appearing in a Smash bros. game in the late future, so that's a fair assumption.
 
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I meant don't want as in I'm not really campaigning for their inclusion. I don't really care if they get in or not, and honestly the idea of a Fortnite default being in Smash sounds much more interesting than someone like Joker (to me at least).
Hoo boy

This is definitely an unpopular opinion

Honestly the major two gripes I have are with saying R.O.B. is unimportant and that Waluigi is somehow less recognizable than Piranha Plant. The former was Nintendo's Trojan Horse that secured home consoles' place on store shelves in the US while the latter is a near ever-present mainstay in the Mario spin-offs, including Mario Kart, which is among the best selling game franchises in the world.

Outside of those (and maaaaaaybe Falco and Jigglypuff depending on how much nostalgia is valued) I pretty much agree though.
Waluigi is not more recognizable by any measure. He’s a consistent character in mario spin offs. Plant is a mainstay in almost literally every mainline mario game (like, I can’t think of one where he’s absent). Mario mainline franchise is way more popular than spinoffs. Hence, the one in the more popular series with consistent appearances has to be more recognizable
 
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The following characters are equivalent in strength when it comes to their popularity or relevance to Nintendo (or gaming as a whole)

:ulticeclimbers:
:ultrob:
:ultfalco:
:ultgnw:
:ultlucas:
:ultjigglypuff:
:ultzss:
:ultroy:
Ashley
Waluigi
Geno
Takamaru
Mach Rider
Krystal
Andy (Advance Wars)

While these characters are (or would be) nice additions to the roster, they are absolutely inconsequential to it.

:ultpiranha::ultwiifittrainer:and:ultsheik: are slightly above all of these characters simply because of the massive recognizability to them.

There are other veterans I might put on this list, but most of them are either echoes, clones or characters from modern franchises that still have some novelty to them, so they don't really fit.

Edit: Im on the fence about Ness in hindsight. Is he popular because of Smash or is he just popular?
Sorry bruh but Andy represents a series with 30+ years of history and is Nintendo's longest running franchise without a representative. Wars has it's legacy and influence on other turn-based strategy games (not just FE but the genre in general) and to claim he's inconsequential is just disingenuous.
 

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Sorry bruh but Andy represents a series with 30+ years of history and is Nintendo's longest running franchise without a representative. Wars has it's legacy and influence on other turn-based strategy games (not just FE but the genre in general) and to claim he's inconsequential is just disingenuous.
Sorry if I'm misinformed, but the most recent Wars game being a seemly small title on the DS in 2008 and a famicon "wars" game (that is completely unrelated to Andy) doesn't seem to strike me as compelling evidence for the strength of Andy or any wars rep.

Andy honestly is in the same place as Isaac or Ashley. And we know exactly what Sakurai made them to be in the past few games.
 
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Sorry if I'm misinformed, but the most recent Wars game being a seemly small title on the DS in 2008 and a famicon "wars" game (that is completely unrelated to Andy) doesn't seem to strike me as compelling evidence for the strength of Andy or any wars rep.

Andy honestly is in the same place as Isaac or Ashley. And we know exactly what Sakurai made them to be in the past few games.
My criticism was in regards to your insinuation that Andy is inconsequential and I stated why that's not the case. The last Wars game was in 2008 yes, but that was coming at a time where Intelligent Systems was struggling to put out anything successful that wasn't Paper Mario. Fire Emblem itself was failing as well until IS had the confidence to market said series properly.
 
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I know there's a lot of speculation about tonight's direct but I want to remind everyone that it's only 35 minutes long and probably 15 to 20 minutes are going to be about Three Houses (which I'm very interested in), so it's entirely possible we won't get a Smash announcement at all. Remember that in his last statement Sakurai said they hadn't worked on Joker yet so even if we do get some Smash news it'll probably be an update on Joker progress.

(But I swear to god if ****ing Sora is our second DLC fighter I'm drop kicking my computer out of a window)
 
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I know there's a lot of speculation about tonight's direct but I want to remind everyone that it's only 35 minutes long and probably 15 to 20 minutes are going to be about Three Houses (which I'm very interested in), so it's entirely possible we won't get a Smash announcement at all. Remember that in his last statement Sakurai said they hadn't worked on Joker yet so even if we do get some Smash news it'll probably be an update on Joker progress.

(But I swear to god if ****ing Sora is our second DLC fighter I'm drop kicking my computer out of a window)
Umm... 15-20 minutes?
Oh yeah, just like that March Direct from last year that advertised details on Mario Tennis Aces was mostly about Mario Tennis Aces. Except it actually wasn't; MTA ended up taking up about 6 minutes of the whole 34 minute presentation, and they had plenty of room to drop bombshells like Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion and a teaser for Smash alongside it. We're probably gonna be getting 5-10 minutes of Three Houses news at most, and there's not much reason to believe that a majority of the Direct will be focused on Three Houses at this time.
 
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Umm... 15-20 minutes?
Oh yeah, just like that March Direct from last year that advertised details on Mario Tennis Aces was mostly about Mario Tennis Aces. Except it actually wasn't; MTA ended up taking up about 6 minutes of the whole 34 minute presentation, and they had plenty of room to drop bombshells like Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion and a teaser for Smash alongside it. We're probably gonna be getting 5-10 minutes of Three Houses news at most, and there's not much reason to believe that a majority of the Direct will be focused on Three Houses at this time.
To be fair, we know a lot less about Three Houses going into this Direct than we did about Aces going into the March Direct, especially since a strategy RPG would likely have more to explain than a tennis game.
 
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In hindsight, I don't think this one's too unpopular, though people hated the hell out of Brawl until relatively recently for some reason.
Most of the hate was centered around the gameplay, at least in my experience. Most people seem to agree that nearly everything apart from that was solid. If the gameplay was better, it probably would have been my favorite official Smash Game.
 
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I know there's a lot of speculation about tonight's direct but I want to remind everyone that it's only 35 minutes long and probably 15 to 20 minutes are going to be about Three Houses (which I'm very interested in), so it's entirely possible we won't get a Smash announcement at all. Remember that in his last statement Sakurai said they hadn't worked on Joker yet so even if we do get some Smash news it'll probably be an update on Joker progress.

(But I swear to god if ****ing Sora is our second DLC fighter I'm drop kicking my computer out of a window)
Well, in hindsight, good thing I didn't get my hopes up.
 

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In hindsight, I don't think this one's too unpopular, though people hated the hell out of Brawl until relatively recently for some reason.
It's because its reached the point where most of the dislike has died down.

After a while, controversial games lose the controversy and the fans continue singing praises.

It's kinda like the Zelda cycle but more widespread.
 
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