University of Texas - Austin

[MT_]

Anyone planning on attending the LRA Start this April in Austin?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=255506

 

[blackfox51]

Anyone planning on attending the LRA Start this April in Austin?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=255506

I'm planning to, pending how my grades are and how much practice I get
I'm probably just gonna stick to singles though

 

[BRLNK88]

your face gives me brain cancer Kal

And being able to SHFFL consistently does require some fair motor skills, unlike WD or L-canceling.
I simply don't want to have to try that hard to do awesome ****.

 

[Kal]

At this point, Rohan, our argument will continue in the following manner:

Kal - "SHFFLing isn't that hard"
Rohan - "It is too that hard"

ad nauseum. Let me put it this way: if Jesus Freak can shffl, you can shffl. It's just ****ing ridiculous how you keep scrubbishly restating the same nonsense. Like a creationist saying that there's no evidence for evolution, you lodge objections on how difficult it is to shffl before even trying.

 

[BRLNK88]

I can SHFFL, I can't do it consistently, nor do I have the will to try.
I would try harder if I had nothing to fall back on, but I've found a game that I can actually have FUN with, without having to try that hard.
It's not like I play Smash for a living...
Like, I can do dair to nair to knee with Falcon in Brawl +, and it feels awesome. In Melee you actually need to have the tech skill to pull that off, and that isn't fun for me.

 

[chaoscontrolASH]

I can SHFFL, I can't do it consistently, nor do I have the will to try.
I would try harder if I had nothing to fall back on, but I've found a game that I can actually have FUN with, without having to try that hard.
It's not like I play Smash for a living...
Like, I can do dair to nair to knee with Falcon in Brawl +, and it feels awesome. In Melee you actually need to have the tech skill to pull that off, and that isn't fun for me.

to me u just contradicted yourself rohan. u cant pull it off an Melee yet you can in Brawl+?

inb4 they are different

like ive said before, Melee looks hella technical to me. i know you can justify it not being that technical depending who you playing with, but its from my p.o.v. but rohan you say you can pull off similar stuff from Melee in Brawl+. how can you not be able to handle Melee? you're still pulling off tech skills imo

 

[BRLNK88]

no andrew, Brawl + DOESN'T require the tech skill of Melee, thats kinda the point.
But it still plays a lot like Melee, and that's one of the things I like about it.
The speed of Melee was never what bothered me, it was the tech skill. I wanna be able to play a game thats similar to the speed of Melee, without the required tech skill, and that's what Brawl + is.
The number one thing is the auto-aerial cancel. I can SHFF consistently, and I can SHL consistently, but I can't put them together. In 64, you can't fast fall aerials so all you had to do was SHL, and in B+, since everything auto-cancels, all you have to do is SHFF and it has the effect of a SHFFL.
Not to mention the ability to turn off tap-jump, which still bothers me every time I play Melee.
(insert Kal saying that my post is giving him some sort of deformity)

 

[Kal]

No, I'm done addressing you. There's no point.

 

[-RedShadow]

Soooooo I guess me & JF are the only Austin reps @ FS8?

 

[BRLNK88]

No, I'm done addressing you. There's no point.

lulz, never thought I'd see the day.
Not to say I'm totally absconding Melee, if the mood strikes me I might join you guys.
I have actually asked Clay if he wanted to play Melee before. He even taught me how to ledge tech, which you can do in B+ btw.

 

[Noc]

It doesn't have anything to do with honor. If everyone was "honorable" like that, we'd only ever play dittos, let alone matches like Falco vs. CF. Being at a disadvantage is a normal part of competitive play. Also, you're sort of biased, Falcon is sort of fail on non-neutrals.

honorable? wtf is that supposed to even mean in this case?

What I meant was winning on neutral stage is more likely to mean that you are more skilled than winning on a counterpick, which could just mean you know the stage better. But I see your point Edgar, competition is about getting whatever edge you can over your opponent. Sometimes you have to play in way that some might call "dirty" because there's no guarantee your opponent won't play the same way.
I think another reason I tend to stick with neutrals is I just get distracted by the craziness that can happen on CPs. But maybe I will practice on Kongo Jungle, Hax seems to like that one.

Anyone planning on attending the LRA Start this April in Austin?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=255506

I will if I am at all capable. We should organize rides to this.

 

[BRLNK88]

Clay's ROB in B+ is the closest thing to Clay playing dirty.
It's like Jiggly in Melee, except way harder to kill and annoying projectiles. And no instant on-stage kill move of course, but the dirty gimps are bad enough.
Unfortunately I can't say he's broken, cuz he's beatable with characters like Snake, but I don't wanna be forced to use Snake all the time.

 

[chaoscontrolASH]

What I meant was winning on neutral stage is more likely to mean that you are more skilled than winning on a counterpick, which could just mean you know the stage better. But I see your point Edgar, competition is about getting whatever edge you can over your opponent. Sometimes you have to play in way that some might call "dirty" because there's no guarantee your opponent won't play the same way.
I think another reason I tend to stick with neutrals is I just get distracted by the craziness that can happen on CPs. But maybe I will practice on Kongo Jungle, Hax seems to like that one.

you do have a point. neutral stages usually means more skill but if u dont even try the other stages, you're going to be at a bigger disadvantage. you may even find new techniques that are stage specific as well for future use.

 

[MT_]

BOOT CAMP FOR LRA START a week before the tournament...lol

 

[blackfox51]

Matt, we gotta play for a few hours every week haha
Then maybe we can combo like Jose =P

 

[Noc]

The talk of power rankings in the Texas Melee thread gave me an idea--how about, based on tourney results and personal observations, the officers form a panel and discuss/debate what the in-club Melee and Brawl rankings should be? We can post these rankings, probably top 5, on the OP of this thread. This would provide an incentive for people to improve and perform better at tournies, to get their name on that list of skilled, revered smashers. It would also hype up the competition and add some excitement. It's certainly fun to just play without a clear idea or concern for who is better than you but if this becomes public knowledge it gives you something to work towards, a fun personal challenge which can be rewarding to overcome. This could motivate people to come more often too, increasing meeting turnouts.

Once I get back to Austin tomorrow, I could get all the tourney results together and send them out so we can get the process of hashing out rankings started. An obvious question that would arise is who we should consider for inclusion in the rankings: paid members only? UT students only? Anybody that has attended a minimum number of meetings? Also, how often would we update these rankings? Every other month? Or maybe just when we notice that they need to be changed? Finally, we would need to firm up who actually wants to/should be on the panel. Hopefully, the debate wouldn't become intractable...we would just have to keep in mind that the final product will not be agreed upon by everybody but it will represent a general consensus.

To be clear, the club would not revolve around these rankings. They would not perfectly convey peoples' relative skill levels. And if you do not care about how good the panel thinks you are compared with others then you don't have to pay any attention to the rankings. You can just keep coming to meetings for friendlies and fun. What I mean is the rankings will not radically change the club; they'll just be there for those who are interested in them.

So, do you guys like this idea of rankings? A dollar for your thoughts...

 

[JOS.fm]

Matt, we gotta play for a few hours every week haha
Then maybe we can combo like Jose =P

**** justin, I don't combo. falco combos.
also, about the whole shffling argument, saying it's too hard is giving up too soon.

 

[chaoscontrolASH]

The talk of power rankings in the Texas Melee thread gave me an idea--how about, based on tourney results and personal observations, the officers form a panel and discuss/debate what the in-club Melee and Brawl rankings should be? We can post these rankings, probably top 5, on the OP of this thread. This would provide an incentive for people to improve and perform better at tournies, to get their name on that list of skilled, revered smashers. It would also hype up the competition and add some excitement. It's certainly fun to just play without a clear idea or concern for who is better than you but if this becomes public knowledge it gives you something to work towards, a fun personal challenge which can be rewarding to overcome. This could motivate people to come more often too, increasing meeting turnouts.....
....So, do you guys like this idea of rankings? A dollar for your thoughts...

so a ranking system huh? irony at its finest. clay u originally said you didnt want a ranking system (your reasoning made sense too haha). so why the sudden change?

 

[Noc]

I was never really against rankings, I just didn't like the way they were determined in the old smash club. You had to show up for the single ranking tournament and the only way they could change was via the slow, awkward process of ranking challenges.

 

[blackfox51]

Jeez, we already know the rankings

1. Kal
2. Reqy
3. Edgar
4. Jamal

10. Matt
11. Me
12. Xest (lol, I never see him post here)
13. Clay

99. Melee playing Chicken
100. Rohan

You can fill in the rest of the blanks from there =P

EDIT: A dollar for my thoughts? Pay up Clay

 

[musashi]

Hi guys, im new to UT and to these Smash club things. Im from Mexico and I got here like 2 days ago and id really like to smash with some american players, so is anyone up for some friendlies sometime ???

 

[Kal]

Is musashi Yugioh Master?

Anyway, rankings are a bad idea. I don't see a point in club rankings. It's just saying "this guy is the best in a small group of people." I'd be #1 for Melee and probably not make top 5 for Texas.

 

[blackfox51]

Hi guys, im new to UT and to these Smash club things. Im from Mexico and I got here like 2 days ago and id really like to smash with some american players, so is anyone up for some friendlies sometime ???

Are you living in the dorms or apartments?
Monday is a good day for friendlies since we won't have classes until the following day.
Just post if you wanna play (i'll be back in Austin, Sunday night)

 

[musashi]

Ya YM, i just happened to have this account in here lol
Yeah thatd be great blackfox, i live in some dorms called The Castilian and itd be great to have some friendlies
Ill be looking forward for it!

 

[Kal]

YM we'll play some time. We can work on my Spanish. >_>

 

[musashi]

No way man we gotta work on my english >_> they talk so freakin fast in here i dont understand anything lol

 

[blackfox51]

Yeah, that's Texas for you haha
If you ever wanna stop by Jester east, there's three of us on the third floor who play every now and then throughout the week

 

[musashi]

Alright cool, ill post again on the weekened so we can do something on monday
Unless someone else wants to play sooner or something lol

Oh btw I forgot to mention, im Melee only, im terrible at Brawl lol

 

[blackfox51]

Alright cool, ill post again on the weekened so we can do something on monday
Unless someone else wants to play sooner or something lol

Oh btw I forgot to mention, im Melee only, im terrible at Brawl lol

I haven't even met this guy and he's already cool haha
Good, b/c I suck at Brawl also

 

[musashi]

lol cool i guess xD

 

[AustinRC]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=255506

LRAStart has been updated check it out.

 

[BRLNK88]

I don't need to be good at "gay-lee" to be happy, so I really don't care.

 

[blackfox51]

I don't need to be good at "gay-lee" to be happy, so I really don't care.

This has to be the worse attempted insult directed at Melee... just type in GG and log off haha

 

[Tirno]

Hi guys, im new to UT and to these Smash club things. Im from Mexico and I got here like 2 days ago and id really like to smash with some american players, so is anyone up for some friendlies sometime ???

Sweet, another Melee player in West Campus. I used to live in the Castilian. Now I live about 10 minutes away, depending on how fast you can walk, haha. I'll be back in Austin sometime this week probably. We should hold a celebratory smashfest at my place or maybe Kal's, if he's willing.

 

[BRLNK88]

This has to be the worse attempted insult directed at Melee... just type in GG and log off haha

its gay how you need to have all that tech skill to be good at the game, therefore its "gay-lee"

 

[Noc]

Jeez, we already know the rankings

1. Kal
2. Reqy
3. Edgar
4. Jamal

10. Matt
11. Me
12. Xest (lol, I never see him post here)
13. Clay

99. Melee playing Chicken
100. Rohan

You can fill in the rest of the blanks from there =P

Ok, let me try to refine/complicate your opinion of the Melee rankings:
1. Kal
2. Anupam (if he comes to meetings with any regularity)
3. Reqy (but Edgar is pretty close)
4. Edgar
5. Jamal
6. Spike (that's his name, isn't it? he hasn't been to many mtgs)
7/8. Jose/Matt
9/10/11. Justin/Xest/me

Oh, and we could fit Scoop in around 7th but he was only at one mtg so it's hard to say how he compares. At the risk of sounding like a poor sport, it's not entirely fair to conclude that Xest is better than me based on that one set in that major melee singles tourney, it was a really close set.

What about the Brawl rankings though? (We care a little about Brawl, remember?) I suppose roughly it would be:
1. Bored
2. Ceasar
3. Jose
4/5. Jamal/Kal (lol)
6/7/8/9. Juan/me/Edgar/Andrew
10/11. Phil/Vin

But, it's hard to say since we haven't had so many Brawl tournaments and we don't have many serious competitive Brawl players.

EDIT: A dollar for my thoughts? Pay up Clay

How about a $1 MM?

Anyway, rankings are a bad idea. I don't see a point in club rankings. It's just saying "this guy is the best in a small group of people." I'd be #1 for Melee and probably not make top 5 for Texas.

I see your point but I think it would be worthwhile to have club rankings. Yes, they won't give people a lot to brag about but they could be helpful in spurring people to improve (especially people below the more obvious highest ranks) and give people a sense of achievement when they do. It would also give newcomers and everybody a specific idea of the key players they need to prove themselves against in order to call themselves among the best smashers at UT. Anyways, it shouldn't be that hard to work out the rankings and post them.

Of course, a disadvantage of rankings is people might get overconcerned with competition and forget how to just play for fun.

 

[blackfox51]

its gay how you need to have all that tech skill to be good at the game, therefore its "gay-lee"

Just drop the tech skill argument, please. No one wants to hear/read it anymore. You sound like a fourth grader who gives up at everything that they attempt to accomplish.

@Clay: Sorry haha, I'm not really knowledgeable when it comes to Brawl in our meetings
But yeah, your rankings look ok, maybe we can wait til the end of the year to post it all. I mean, everyone should be shooting to be a great player anyways, getting whooped is just negative reinforcement lol

I'll take that $1 MM, best out of five though haha
Let's record it also!

 

[Tirno]

Clay, I've never seen them play, but IMO Spike/Marty is better than Jamal. Also, Anupam is hella rusty. Even he said I should have beaten him last time we played in tournament, though it could just be him being modest.

 

[Kal]

Clay, about your rankings, Reqy is probably better than Anupam. Anupam never shows up anyway.
Also, Bored isn't a member. He hates us.

Now, about money matches. I'm up for them. Who wants to money match me? >_>

Finally, can I get a headcount on the number of people who would be open to the idea of regular Melee smash fests and tournaments at my place? I'm getting a place closer to campus soon and I want to get 8-10 players who consistently show up to weekly tournaments. This would be a lot of fun, and we would all see a lot of improvement from this. And naturally, the tournaments would be pretty cheap. $5 at most.

Edit: I'll be updating this post with a list of those interested. Generally, the tournaments will be Saturday at around 3:00, I expect.

Kal
blackfox51
Tirno
Noc
MT*
musashi
Nike 20*
chaoscontrolASH

*Indicates someone who is interested but cannot show up consistently.

 

[blackfox51]

Now, about money matches. I'm up for them. Who wants to money match me? >_>

Finally, can I get a headcount on the number of people who would be open to the idea of regular Melee smash fests and tournaments at my place? I'm getting a place closer to campus soon and I want to get 8-10 players who consistently show up to weekly tournaments. This would be a lot of fun, and we would all see a lot of improvement from this. And naturally, the tournaments would be pretty cheap. $5 at most.

I would money match you, but I might as well cut out the match part and just hand it over haha

The tourney/smashfest sounds good, just let me know when, b/c I usually have work/life to keep up with