#UltimateDLCSoMale: The Female DLC Character Discussion

[1FC0]

Spoiler: Gender Distribution Chart

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((Let me know if any of these are wrong.

- Mewtwo is genderless.
- Yoshi is male (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUByV73XG-0).

 

[Prince777]

Ah, I gotcha. You know, to shift gears for a minute to a female character I’d like to see (of which there are a few ) there’s something I’ve been curious to about Cadence.

She’s from Crypt of the Necrodancer, but she also had a large role in Cadence of Hyrule. Which in a way is another Zelda game.

That makes me wonder how many things from Cadence of Hyrule she’d have in a moveset. Obviously it would mostly be Crypt of the Necrodancer stuff, but I do wonder if they’d try to put in some Zelda stuff for her moves.

BTW, if I may ask, Reimu is from Touhou correct?

Cadence would be a dope first party addition! She's someone I'd love to see as a Zelda rep, even before Skull Kid, Midna, or an improved Ganon. I could see her being very fun actually. I haven't played CoH yet myself, so I'm not sure what I could draw upon for a potential moveset.

And yes, Reimu is from the Touhou series. It's lore (and soundtrack) are both really fascinating, and she would canonically be one of the more powerful characters in Smash. I'd argue that she's the most interesting of all of the highly requested characters considering the spells and metaphysical powers she possesses.

 

[Deleted member]

And yes, Reimu is from the Touhou series. It's lore (and soundtrack) are both really fascinating, and she would canonically be one of the more powerful characters in Smash. I'd argue that she's the most interesting of all of the highly requested characters considering the spells and metaphysical powers she possesses.

Definitely Reimu. I swear I'm gojng to binge lots of Touhou content should she ever be in Smash.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

Reimu would be pretty cool, so long as someone else designs her appearance for the game. The games are great, but art is not one of that guy's strong points. The music alone makes her worth consideration, though what stage could she have? There's not exactly a lot of ground in Touhou games...

 

[Deleted member]

Reimu would be pretty cool, so long as someone else designs her appearance for the game. The games are great, but art is not one of that guy's strong points. The music alone makes her worth consideration, though what stage could she have? There's not exactly a lot of ground in Touhou games...

Probably the shrine by which she resides in. I mean, I would love another Oriental Themed stage.

 

[Troykv]

Hello! This is the club of people that would like a new Female Character?

Well, guess what? Most of my most wanted are females xDD.

Specially Micaiah. I love Micaiah

 

[Deleted member]

Hello! This is the club of people that would like a new Female Character?

Well, guess what? Most of my most wanted are females xDD.

Specially Micaiah. I love Micaiah

Micaiah carried my FEH account to where it right now, which is where all my respect comes from (and FE nonetheless).

 

[Troykv]

Micaiah carried my FEH account to where it right now, which is where all my respect comes from (and FE nonetheless).

Oh that is great! FEH showed how powerful Micaiah's quirks actually are in a less ruthless world (a world where she isn't underleveled and against enemies with ridiculuous numbers of HP and Res unless they're Bandits or Knight Classes).

I'm sure Radiant Dawn is the best game to be a Sword Lord post-FE.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh that is great! FEH showed how powerful Micaiah's quirks actually are in a less ruthless world (a world where she isn't underleveled and against enemies with ridiculuous numbers of HP and Res unless they're Bandits or Knight Classes).

Hahahaha.

Up to this day that character is stilm in my roster. I've been playing FEH for 2 years already.

 

[Troykv]

Hahahaha.

Up to this day that character is stilm in my roster. I've been playing FEH for 2 years already.

She still better than Lyn, fight me.

Do you have your roster? I would like to see it.

 

[Ben Holt]

http://chng.it/BkTCPRqDNN
Please sign Lesley's petition to get more female representation in Smash Bros.
For those in doubt, will this ONE petition make Sakurai include a female character? No.
But this is a drop in the bucket to have our voices heard!

 

[Deleted member]

WOMEN'S VOICES WILL NOT BE SILENCED! PETITION FOR FEMALE DLC NOW OPEN! SIGN AT YOUR OWN ACCORD!

http://chng.it/LWFtjZjMp5

 

[Mogisthelioma]

Wario, Mario, Luigi and others are male humanoids.

If you read my post, you would have noticed that I excluded cartoon characters since not only are their designs not as human as the listed fighters, but also because when was the last time anyone was able to relate to a five foot tall man in overalls who jumps in pipes and takes power-ups to defeat a turtle monster and save a princess?

 

[1FC0]

WOMEN'S VOICES WILL NOT BE SILENCED! PETITION FOR FEMALE DLC NOW OPEN! SIGN AT YOUR OWN ACCORD!

http://chng.it/LWFtjZjMp5

I just noticed that when making a petition "Women's Rights" is included as category but "Men's Rights" is not. Change.org is a celebration of petition-driven change and they should have male representation in the categories. I am not content with "Human Rights". Men need to be specifically represented just like women are!

 

[Coolboy]

WOMEN'S VOICES WILL NOT BE SILENCED! PETITION FOR FEMALE DLC NOW OPEN! SIGN AT YOUR OWN ACCORD!

http://chng.it/LWFtjZjMp5

now i am taking a bit of offense to this, so only ''women's voices''would be allowed to be heard? well i guess being a dude and wanting more females is irrelevant :l
since in your sentence you posted here it clearly says ''Women's voices will not be silenced!'' so in other words only the opinion of females matter in you're eyes about this subject?
if i am wrong then plz say so but currently this is how it comes over to me and i take offense to that >.>

 

[1FC0]

but also because when was the last time anyone was able to relate to a five foot tall man in overalls who jumps in pipes and takes power-ups to defeat a turtle monster and save a princess?

So who his relatable then? Female mutants who fly in space-ships and shoot fictional creatures? Women who fight in ancient fantasy themed wars? Women who wield fictional artifacts and get kidnapped by a giant pigman wielding dark magic?

Also for many people the art style has little to do with how relatable a character is because many people have enough capacity for suspension of disbelief to relate to even cartoony characters as long as their personalities are realistic enough.

Mario is a bad example for your point though (or a good one if you prefer to misdirect people) because Mario is hard to relate to but not because he looks cartoony but because he hardly has any personality.

 

[Calamitas]

I just noticed that when making a petition "Women's Rights" is included as category but "Men's Rights" is not. Change.org is a celebration of petition-driven change and they should have male representation in the categories. I am not content with "Human Rights". Men need to be specifically represented just like women are!

You need a "Clown Rights" option too, so that you can feel properly represented?

 

[1FC0]

You need a "Clown Rights" option too, so that you can feel properly represented?

Clown is not a gender, so no.

 

[Neoxon]

Another thing that concerns me is that out of 20 SNK cameos, only 4 of them are women. Mai’s absence I can understand, but what about Leona, Mature, & Vice? I’d say Kula as well, but it seems like KoF98 is the cut-off point for KoF Arena cameos in Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

Another thing that concerns me is that out of 20 SNK cameos, only 4 of them are women. Mai’s absence I can understand, but what about Leona, Mature, & Vice? I’d say Kula as well, but it seems like KoF98 is the cut-off point for KoF Arena cameos in Smash.

Mature and Vice were not represented in Iori's Spirit Battle, damn it...

Leona's...yeah. A missed oppurtunity.

 

[UserKev]

Every female character I want in Smash:

Fire Emblem - Lyn
Captain Syrup - Warioware
Adeleine - Kirby
Kumatora - Mother 3
Pyra/Mythra - Xenoblade
Min Min - ARMS
Coco Bandicoot - Crash Bandicoot
Lili - Tekken

 

[Oddball]

Currently on the ranker in my signature, the top requested character is female.

It's also Ashley who has a Mii costume, so she's unlikely, but still a female is on top.

So far the top 10 females voted for have been...

#1 Ashley
#5 Dixie Kong
#7 Impa
#17 Krystal
#25 Shantae
#34 Elma
#35 Chun-li
#36 2-B
#46 Midna
#47 Lynn

and for completions sake, the current lowest ranking female is Asuka Kamaza at #274 out of 279. Feel free to stop by and vote for your choices and add anyone you think is missing.

Which also reminds me that I need to add Cadence to the list.

 

[Troykv]

Currently on the ranker in my signature, the top requested character is female.

It's also Ashley who has a Mii costume, so she's unlikely, but still a female is on top.

So far the top 10 females voted for have been...

#1 Ashley
#5 Dixie Kong
#7 Impa
#17 Krystal
#25 Shantae
#34 Elma
#35 Chun-li
#36 2-B
#46 Midna
#47 Lynn

and for completions sake, the current lowest ranking female is Asuka Kamaza at #274 out of 279. Feel free to stop by and vote for your choices and add anyone you think is missing.

Which also reminds me that I need to add Cadence to the list.

I'll add Micaiah, she is my most wanted.

 

[Neoxon]

I just noticed that when making a petition "Women's Rights" is included as category but "Men's Rights" is not. Change.org is a celebration of petition-driven change and they should have male representation in the categories. I am not content with "Human Rights". Men need to be specifically represented just like women are!

Because men have no issues with representation compared to women. It’s like saying “White Lives Matter” in that you’re back-hand slapping those who want better representation for minorities. It’s simply wrong, & I’m honestly disappointed that you’re resorting to such rhetoric.

 

[Teeb147]

Getting a female character who I enjoy the playstyle is pretty much all I want from the dlc, really. Ive been wanting more for a long time :O
I've got faves, but I just want some.

 

[1FC0]

Because men have no issues with representation compared to women. It’s like saying “White Lives Matter” in that you’re back-hand slapping those who want better representation for minorities. It’s simply wrong, & I’m honestly disappointed that you’re resorting to such rhetoric.

Men definitely have issues. It's just that you are unaware of them.

• The male suicide rate is 3.5x higher than women's [1]
• Only 1 in 6 divorced fathers have primary custody of their children [2]
• Men are portrayed in media as violent, sexually deviant predators, or as incompetent parents, workers & caretakers [3] [4]
• 93% of workplace fatalities are men [5]
• Men are 2 to 3 times more likely than women to suffer from a substance abuse disorder [6]
• 78% of murder victims are men [7]
• The homeless population is over 70% male [8]
• Men's life expectancy is 5 years shorter than women's [9]
• More than 10% fewer men than women attend college and those men that do are more likely to drop out [10]
• 56% of boys will undergo genital mutilation in the form of circumcision [11]
• Access to certain government benefits is denied to men unless they register for the draft [12]
• Men account for more than 93% of inmates in the U.S., and are incarcerated at a rate 14x higher than women [13]
• A man will receive 63% harsher sentencing than a woman for an identical crime with identical criminal history [14]

(https://rockymountainmra.com/introduction)

No race or gender gets a free pass to an easy life. You may think that some do, but that is just because you do not understand them enough to empathise with them.

And women are hardly a minority. If they were then they would be lucky because it would mean that it would be easier for them to find a mate.

 

[Coolboy]

Because men have no issues with representation compared to women. It’s like saying “White Lives Matter” in that you’re back-hand slapping those who want better representation for minorities. It’s simply wrong, & I’m honestly disappointed that you’re resorting to such rhetoric.

did you really just go there my dude? i think you are starting something here..and my advice to you is plz drop it..you are entering a risky area that can offend ALOT of people.

this thread starts to get to much of that SJW vibe..and i really start to find it difficult to stay quiet now >.>

 

[Deleted member]

Because men have no issues with representation compared to women. It’s like saying “White Lives Matter” in that you’re back-hand slapping those who want better representation for minorities. It’s simply wrong, & I’m honestly disappointed that you’re resorting to such rhetoric.

Basically it's like you're giving people who already have a chance more chances. Give chance to others.

did you really just go there my dude? i think you are starting something here..and my advice to you is plz drop it..you are entering a risky area that can offend ALOT of people.

this thread starts to get to much of that SJW vibe..and i really start to find it difficult to stay quiet now >.>

This topic was political since day one so...I'm used to it.

 

[Hedgehugs]

okay i suck at politics AND debating so imma just keep my opinionated reply short.

the guy just wants female characters like we do guys, we shouldn't call him a "clown" because he wants to be involved in helping us get our goal.. he's on our side.

 

[Frizz]

I'm not sure what's going on this thread, but I'll just share my unrelated thoughts.

I think it would be pretty cool if we got a purely female character as DLC. There's a lot of female characters that are grouped in as an alt, and I'd just like to get one female character that doesn't have interchangeable gender. Robin, Corrin, Wii Fit, Villager, Pokemon Trainer and Inkling are all guilty of this, although for Inkling and Wii Fit the female is the default alt, so they get a pass.

I don't think it's mandatory to include one for the sake of diversity or whatever, but like I said, it would be pretty cool if the 5th one was a pure female regardless.

 

[Prince777]

Predatoria Ryu Myuutsu Mogisthelioma
Being relatable is clearly a subjective term as you guys have demonstrated. Most of the humanoid male cast was already brought up in your arguments which doesn't necessarily relate to the crux argument.I simply desire a female character who's powerful, fun, and memorable; as with the majority of people in this thread.

Humanoid characters are the ones that are often mentioned and requested regardless; take power houses like Kos-Mos, Reimu, 2B, Shantae, Lara Croft, Arle Nadja and, Jill (Resident Evil), who are some of the highly requested female reps that fit this bill. Some male contenders would be Master Chief, Dante, Doom Slayer, Heihachi, Sora, and Lloyd. There are also many others, but humanoid characters are way more popular than their anthropomorphic counterparts.

Not to make this a case about humans > animals either, because I'd love to see some Pokemon and Star Fox reps in the future, as well as Chorus Kids (I doubt their human, but they look dope lol).

The case that Ryu made for the underdog is really interesting, and I never looked at it that way. Most characters that players main are often times very relatable to that person.

The point is, I would like for Smash to have more female reps in the near future. Smash 4 has only seen Bayonetta (and technically Corrin), so I'm not expecting a lot this time around if we do get any.

 

[Deleted member]

The point is, I would like for Smash to have more female reps in the near future. Smash 4 has only seen Bayonetta (and technically Corrin), so I'm not expecting a lot this time around if we do get any

That's my point. Even if there were less female DLc, there would still be females even if it was a small amount. Goes to show that while gaming history is written by males, there are females worthy of note.

 

[Prince777]

That's my point. Even if there were less female DLc, there would still be females even if it was a small amount. Goes to show that while gaming history is written by males, there are females worthy of note.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Deleted member]

My thoughts exactly.

Literally one female is what I want before I be more lenient.

I'm confused of closing this thread since everyone brought up interesting concepts left and right.

 

[Night Gale]

Sheeeit, I didn't expect the MRA to be linked in a topic about video game characters.

Representation and diversity is important even in a fighting game. Variety prevents the roster from looking and feeling stale. I've always thought that the Smash Bros design philosophy was flawed though because protagonists aren't always the most well-known or popular characters in their games and their attacks can be generic as hell compared to supporting characters. There are women who've had extra care put into their design, personality and so on to stand out more because publishers prefer male protagonists.

Btw my most wanted character is Junko Enoshima.

 

[Deleted member]

Sheeeit, I didn't expect the MRA to be linked in a topic about video game characters.

Representation and diversity is important even in a fighting game. Variety prevents the roster from looking and feeling stale. I've always thought that the Smash Bros design philosophy was flawed though because protagonists aren't always the most well-known or popular characters in their games and their attacks can be generic as hell compared to supporting characters.

Btw my most wanted character is Junko Enoshima.

Definitely. All the other fighting games share a decent female percentage, that, though small, is still acceptable by standards. Often due to Smash's philosophy of gaming icons, associated with the male code, is the problem here, though the female demographic is something not worthy of leaving out.

Heheh, good luck tho. Sakurai would've picked Monokuma though she woukd be interesting.

 

[Tino]

Uh, since when is gender an issue around here...?

 

[Teeb147]

Uh, since when is gender an issue around here...?

I know it's always been a thing for me, but probably getting a lot of male characters in a row revealed for ultimate (and no I dont count kazooie) has stirred it up for others too.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

I just noticed that when making a petition "Women's Rights" is included as category but "Men's Rights" is not. Change.org is a celebration of petition-driven change and they should have male representation in the categories. I am not content with "Human Rights". Men need to be specifically represented just like women are!

If thousands of years of history weren't filled with 90% of all known civilizations existing as patriarchal societies that greatly limited the rights of women, you would be correct.

Listen dude, we all know the statistics, men have issues too. Just not as many as women--and I say this as a man. This thread was meant to explore possibilities of female DLC, not to do...whatever it is you're trying to do.

 

[1FC0]

If thousands of years of history weren't filled with 90% of all known civilizations existing as patriarchal societies that greatly limited the rights of women, you would be correct.

I am saying that men committing suicide, being violently murdered, and being homeless are issues. And you are basically responding by saying that they are not issues because there were a lot of patriarchies in the past. How exactly are those patriarchies helping those men? Or do you mean that men today deserve to die horrible deaths and that they deserve to live on the street as a punishment for being the gender that "oppressed" women?

And yes, "oppressed" is between quotes there because patriarchies often did not even oppress women. You think that men in patriarchies just sat back and used women as slaves? Tell that to the men who died on the Titanic to save their women, the men who died in wars to protect their women, and the men who got black lung from working in coal mines to support their women. Those were also patriarchies. Many patriarchies followed the "with great power comes great responsibility" principle and demanded from the men that they took good care of their women, at the cost of their own lives if there was no other way. You think that being the head is all about authority and no responsibility? Maybe in some patriarchies it was but definitely not all.

I think that your view right now is warped. You may understand women's issues, which I agree exist and are worth focusing on. But you lack understanding of men's issues to such a degree that you are completely unable to empathise with men who suffer from them.