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[Deleted member]

Than what would you have done? Make up a bunch of random things that he’s never done in any game like Ganondorf?

My guess is, you’d just not have put in K. Rool.

And THATS the problem here. We live in a world where suggestions the entire community used to rally behind are being ragged on and trashed. That is just completely ridiculous.

And Ganondorf itself could be considered for some as a semi-clone in Melee, who happens to have a completely made-up moveset.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Yeah but we already got so many counters in the game

I would've preferred a more unique counter like Incin's or Bayo, or the punch flurry thing in some fanmade movesets

Tfw your main probably has one of the most unique counters in the game

Than what would you have done? Make up a bunch of random things that he’s never done in any game like Ganondorf?

My guess is, you’d just not have put in K. Rool.

And THATS the problem here. We live in a world where suggestions the entire community used to rally behind are being ragged on and trashed. That is just completely ridiculous.

Here's the thing,

Not all characters necessarily fit Smash...

Imo, creativity in move sets needs to be prioritized, over references.

It makes characters more unique and fun.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Honestly, I don't see the issue of a character having a moveset that's true to who they are.

Everything K.Rool does, be it a reference or an original move, is true to his character. His moveset may be simple, but for many, that's all he needs.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, I don't see the issue of a character having a moveset that's true to who they are.

Everything K.Rool does, be it a reference or an original move, is true to his character. His moveset may be simple, but for many, that's all he needs.

Everyone, read this post

 

[Deleted member]

Be honest here

some of you don’t want Steve is because of how Minecraft is acting as of now.

Is it?

 

[Opossum]

Be honest here

some of you don’t want Steve is because of how Minecraft is acting as of now.

Is it?

I honestly don't know what you're trying to say.

 

[Deleted member]

Be honest here

some of you don’t want Steve is because of how Minecraft is acting as of now.

Is it?

And the most random post of the day goes to....

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I honestly don't know what you're trying to say.

Trust me, no one ever does...

 

[Zeox]

By the way, have you ever wonder how Porky's theme would sound if you mix it with Megalovania?
...
no? well too bad:

 

[Deleted member]

I honestly don't know what you're trying to say.

As in when it got bought by Microsoft and when the comunity started to go toxic

To make it short.....

AS IN THE DAY MINECRAFT DIED

 

[Gentlepanda]

As in when it got bought by Microsoft and when the comunity started to go toxic

To make it short.....

AS IN THE DAY MINECRAFT DIED

fam

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

As in when it got bought by Microsoft and when the comunity started to go toxic

To make it short.....

AS IN THE DAY MINECRAFT DIED

Minecraft will never die,

Ever

At least, until the world itself, ends

 

[Zeox]

As in when it got bought by Microsoft and when the comunity started to go toxic

To make it short.....

AS IN THE DAY MINECRAFT DIED

But Minecraft is still alive, they are about to release a new update with illagers and an illager beast, etc...
I don't want Steve mostly because I don't think his moveset would be interesting and his 3D Model is pretty ugly, but that's personal opinions, not good reasons why he shouldn't be.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Tfw your main probably has one of the most unique counters in the game

Here's the thing,

Not all characters necessarily fit Smash...

Imo, creativity in move sets needs to be prioritized, over references.

It makes characters more unique and fun.

Dude. Smash is a game of references. You take icons from different series and translate them as faithfully and accurately as possible. Sure. Creativity helps. But if the creativity removes who the character is then you’ve killed the character. Where you see a boring moveset, many people over the years have seen a character who was already perfectly designed for Smash. And all he had to do was implement him.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Dude. Smash is a game of references. You take icons from different series and translate them as faithfully and accurately as possible. Sure. Creativity helps. But if the creativity removes who the character is then you’ve killed the character. Where you see a boring moveset, many people over the years have seen a character who was already perfectly designed for Smash. And all he had to do was implement him.

I don't get it...

It's apparently alright to bash , because they got in over other characters, despite having fun and unique move sets...

Yet it's considered blasphemy to bash 's very safe move set, because he's the fan favorite?

 

[Deleted member]

fam

Sorry it’s kinda hard to explain sometimes

 

[Deleted member]

Tfw your main probably has one of the most unique counters in the game

Here's the thing,

Not all characters necessarily fit Smash...

Imo, creativity in move sets needs to be prioritized, over references.

It makes characters more unique and fun.

Corrin? What's special about her counter? Just wondering

 

[Gentlepanda]

Corrin? What's special about her counter? Just wondering

it's got water and that's pretty neat i guess

 

[Deleted member]

Corrin? What's special about her counter? Just wondering

They turn into a dragon when they counter the enemy.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Corrin? What's special about her counter? Just wondering

It's the only counter to launch vertically...

That one change makes a whole lot of difference...

 

[Deleted member]

it's got water and that's pretty neat i guess

I remember how busted it was when Corrin first released in Sm4sh lmao

 

[Opossum]

I don't get it...

It's apparently alright to bash , because they got in over other characters, despite having fun and unique move sets...

Yet it's considered blasphemy to bash 's very safe move set, because he's the fan favorite?

In fairness, I haven't seen people complain about Rosalina since like, the month of her reveal.

 

[Gentlepanda]

In fairness, I haven't seen people complain about Rosalina since like, the month of her reveal.

i haven't seen rosalina since the month of her reveal

 

[Deleted member]

I don't get it...

It's apparently alright to bash , because they got in over other characters, despite having fun and unique move sets...

Yet it's considered blasphemy to bash 's very safe move set, because he's the fan favorite?

You can say what you will about K. Rool all you want. I just think it's funny that having too many references in a moveset is now a complaint.

 

[Opossum]

i haven't seen rosalina since the month of her reveal

O O F.

Honestly I just wish I were better at playing as her, haha. She's one of my favorite Mario characters and her moveset is neat as hell, but I don't click with her at all.

 

[Gyrom8]

Alright, here's a timely game:

Sakurai is going to put your most wanted in the game, but insists they must have a counter. What does it look like and - if a more unique counter - how does it work?

 

[Gentlepanda]

Alright, here's a timely game:

Sakurai is going to put your most wanted in the game, but insists they must have a counter. What does it look like and - if a more unique counter - how does it work?

bravely default has a swordmaster job 100% based around counterattacks so i'd be surprised if he didn't

 

[Deleted member]

Why is it seemingly so hard to understand that Richter being a Simon Echo makes him infinitely easier to add than Mr. Backdash?

K.Rool’s moveset isn’t intended to be a series of references.
It is just the stuff he does in most of his appearances

But there's nothing uncohesive about them. The crown and blunderbuss fit with K. Rool's style incredibly well, and it's not like the counter or helipak is outlandishly out there.

You're not saying what is uncohesive about it.

The whole fact he's a heavy that's supposed to be unconventional. That's not a theme, that's what you call a character whose specials have no connection to each other but you need them to stitch together. His projectiles don't complement his normals, their additional gimmicks don't make sense for those moves with a sucking effect that comes out after a projectile and a boomerang that can just be turned as a weapon against him for no real reason, his counter is overlapping with his armor gimmick, and his recovery is just really weird when he's so heavy and has no business being able to recover from so low.

Than what would you have done? Make up a bunch of random things that he’s never done in any game like Ganondorf?

My guess is, you’d just not have put in K. Rool.

And THATS the problem here. We live in a world where suggestions the entire community used to rally behind are being ragged on and trashed. That is just completely ridiculous.

I never cared about K. Rool, don't act as if I need to be glad or accepting of his moveset just because some people wanted him. A moveset I was never really interested in but had hopes Sakurai could do better if he ever did get in as happens with so many newcomers that I initially didn't want or care for. But then, he had the exact same boring and basic moveset that ever fan gave to him. There aren't any cool or unique ideas in there, just things that had been regurgitated for over a decade thrown together with an additional gimmick painted over.

 

[Deleted member]

It's the only counter to launch vertically...

That one change makes a whole lot of difference...

That's fair, but I don't think it's one of the most unique

I feel like it goes in the order of Incineroar, Bayonetta, Shulk, Mii Brawler, K.Rool, Corrin, Mac, and the MarthlIKEs

 

[Opossum]

Alright, here's a timely game:

Sakurai is going to put your most wanted in the game, but insists they must have a counter. What does it look like and - if a more unique counter - how does it work?

Celica gets Mila's Turnwheel. When it activates, she and her opponent are sent "back in time" to where they were three seconds prior to being struck.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I don't get it...

It's apparently alright to bash , because they got in over other characters, despite having fun and unique move sets...

Yet it's considered blasphemy to bash 's very safe move set, because he's the fan favorite?

I actually don’t see any problem with Trainer or Rosalina. And Corrin and Plant have a little extra scrutiny on them sense they’re dlc. You had to pay extra for them.

Both are adequate reasons to include a character. But prioritizing one over the other is asking for trouble.

 

[Opossum]

Why is it seemingly so hard to understand that Richter being a Simon Echo makes him infinitely easier to add than Mr. Backdash?

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The whole fact he's a heavy that's supposed to be unconventional. That's not a theme, that's what you call a character whose specials have no connection to each other but you need them to stitch together. His projectiles don't complement his normals, their additional gimmicks don't make sense for those moves with a sucking effect that comes out after a projectile and a boomerang that can just be turned as a weapon against him for no real reason, his counter is overlapping with his armor gimmick, and his recovery is just really weird when he's so heavy and has no business being able to recover from so low.

I never cared about K. Rool, don't act as if I need to be glad or accepting of his moveset just because some people wanted him. A moveset I was never really interested in but had hopes Sakurai could do better if he ever did get in as happens with so many newcomers that I initially didn't want or care for. But then, he had the exact same boring and basic moveset that ever fan gave to him. There aren't any cool or unique ideas in there, just things that had been regurgitated for over a decade thrown together with an additional gimmick painted over.

K. Rool's entire character is based on deception. Like, that's his entire thing in the DKC games. His disguises, faking his death to attack you in the credits, that kind of thing. So the fact that he's a heavyweight character who goes against how the opponent would think a heavyweight plays is perfectly in-character.


Not gonna lie, "too many references" seems to be code for "I need something to complain about after a fan-favorite I didn't want got in." It's literally a non-issue.

 

[Deleted member]

Reset the clock gifs?

Well, I was wrong. Glad to be and not entirely surprised, a bunch of stuff happened over the last two days that made me go "Hmmmmm". Glad my pessimism was for nothing!

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, here's a timely game:

Sakurai is going to put your most wanted in the game, but insists they must have a counter. What does it look like and - if a more unique counter - how does it work?

Crono gets Chrono Trigger. Crono takes the Time Egg from his pocket and holds it in front of him. If it's hit, the egg breaks and time is frozen. The duration of the frozen time is proportional to the countered attack's strength.

 

[Sari]

Alright, here's a timely game:

Sakurai is going to put your most wanted in the game, but insists they must have a counter. What does it look like and - if a more unique counter - how does it work?

My boy Kyo would use the blowback animation from the KoF games that's used when attacking someone while you're blocking.

 

[Deleted member]

Minecraft will never die,

Ever

At least, until the world itself, ends

But Minecraft is still alive, they are about to release a new update with illagers and an illager beast, etc...
I don't want Steve mostly because I don't think his moveset would be interesting and his 3D Model is pretty ugly, but that's personal opinions, not good reasons why he shouldn't be.

Maybe this will make you understand why I said it died

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I have to say - I LOVE K. Rool's kit. It's really fun to use, and it's also loads of great references. I think they did an amazing job with making him a fun character to use.

Trainer - I dunno. I do love him, and I loved transformations, but I'd have liked to see them a bit more separated like they were in Brawl. It'd be fun if they did show stock icons and shout names for the individual mons. I think the coolest way would be if you spent the whole match as just one, then they'd come out and just leave a "Squirtle Wins!" at the end. Maybe even give a mechanic so if the mon dies, you could hold down shield and the trainer'd send out the same one again. Also assign records separately for individual mons and the team as a whole. I really like the team, but I'm playing Squirtle far too much. I guess I switched more in Brawl from the type effectiveness thing...

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, here's a timely game:

Sakurai is going to put your most wanted in the game, but insists they must have a counter. What does it look like and - if a more unique counter - how does it work?

Ooh, fun!
For Zoe... uh... hmmm...
awww fuddle duddle I dunno

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, here's a timely game:

Sakurai is going to put your most wanted in the game, but insists they must have a counter. What does it look like and - if a more unique counter - how does it work?

Elma gets Ghost Factory, which lasts for a very small window, like smaller then the Marthlikes even, but if she is hit she is invincible for a little over a second. Personally I think there are way cooler things they can do with Ghost Factory but eh.

Rex & Aegis just have Foresight. It's boring. Maybe it acts a bit like Shulk's with more variations? That would make it interesting

Midna spawns a magic Twili Mirror in front of her to counter and reflect a la K.Rool

Skull Kid spawns a flower on the enemy when hit during his countet

 

[Pakky]

I don't get it...

It's apparently alright to bash , because they got in over other characters, despite having fun and unique move sets...

Yet it's considered blasphemy to bash 's very safe move set, because he's the fan favorite?

I'll tell you what's blasphemy

ALL THAT GOD DAMN ENDING LAG

If anyone is complaining about unique movsets they're being childish.

Ya'll are annoying though could you stop?

yes also you could you like be fat and not have the best neutral game on the roster?