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What are you most excited about for E3?


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amazonevan19

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Nice.



You can express sadness but marketing team isn't responsible for it. I was supporting Shadow too, but I wasn't heartbroken because I kept my expectations low.
Sure. But I can try to figure out what was going on in the background too. The evidence for Shadow was pretty convincing when put together. And it turns out none of it mattered in the end.

Why? We don't know. Again, if Shadow was in, everyone would say "yeah duh it was obvious, look how many times Knuckles was shown off as an assist/Shadow's conspicuous abscence for so long... yada yada yada" When no amount of "evidence" is going to actually make them included, if they were never considered in the first place.

Fans always speculate. They always will till the end of Smash DLC and games. It's trying to look into a crystal ball. And it was not unreasonable to assume Shadow had an incredibly strong likelihood of being in, given how easy of an echo he would have been, and the hints/evidence that seemed to be there.

Why did the marketing team leave some of the most requested characters for deconfirmation at the end? It's hard to say, and there's a lot of potential answers.

I think this is the last I'll say on the matter as I think my perspective is clear and I don't want to talk in circles.
 
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Good luck with High School. I never got to do Public School since I was Home Schooled so experience the experience I never got to!
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Thanks heaps, Shoto, I appreciate it.
. . I’m so sorry that you two didn’t have the opportunity to attend school.
Noipoi, you’re about to attend college, right?
I really hope you enjoy it. You’re a really nice guy, I’m confident that you’ll be able to form really strong social bonds.
 

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Y'all know I wish I had the ability to time travel past or future so I'd then know who the final 4 were and then make that prediction waiting to see all your faces of me being right about it. :p
 

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Thanks heaps, Shoto, I appreciate it.
. . I’m so sorry that you two didn’t have the opportunity to attend school.
Noipoi, you’re about to attend college, right?
I really hope you enjoy it. You’re a really nice guy, I’m confident that you’ll be able to form really strong social bonds.
Nah, don't worry about me. The school's around here suck. I probably got spared from gang violence or something.

Besides, I make friends wherever I go! I'm sure College will be fantastical!
 
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Nah, don't worry about me. The school's around here suck. I probably got spared from gang violence or something.

Besides, I make friends wherever I go! I'm sure College will be fantastical!
I see what you mean. .
Still though, enjoy college, and don’t procrastinate like I do. :)
 

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Y'all know I wish I had the ability to time travel past or future so I'd then know who the final 4 were and then make that prediction waiting to see all your faces of me being right about it. :p
If I could go back in time, I would pretend to be a huge Piranha Plant fanatic. I'd constantly talk about wanting him in Smash, and secretly laugh as all of you tell me it'll never happen.

Then November 1st comes along...
 
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Last direct being underwhelming is subjective, though. They still showed two unique characters and one echo, along with Adventure Mode. It's not like there wasn't any big hype (especially among casual fans that doesn't care much about rather older character selection of the previous direct).

Yeah, it got salt but which last Smash direct didn't? It's the story of boy who cried wolf at this point. If you keep saying last reveals were underwhelming, there's not much reason for official marketing to take you seriously.
Yes, they've shown those things, but I'm talking about how it was as a Direct itself and the contents inside, leaving Smash aside. The pacing and how long that they've spent on topics that made it felt like just a bit of a jumbled mess.

Remember that one part in an early Direct where Xenoblade Chronicles 2 took 8 minutes to talk about? As much as I'll say that game is a masterpiece, there is absolutely no reason to go on for 8 minutes, especially where you have a dedicated Direct just right after. I'll definitely give the people who're complaining about Xenoblade's timeslot that, for sure, so think of that, but how they did Spirits Mode for the November Direct.

It could've been handled much better, and hell, I would say that opening cutscene for World of Light, THEN a showcase of Spirits Mode, would've been a much better route. How they explained it was honestly confusing. And was "Other Features" section really needed to send off your big Direct? THOSE are my complaints, not really about everything surrounding Smash leading up to the Direct.
 

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Allow me to return favor.

''EWW UGLY."

''EWW CHILDREN PLAY NO WANT CHILD IN SMASH. CHILD UGLY TOO."

''HURR DURR BANJO."
dont give me ptsd now

yeah

fantastically stressful
im stressed and i havent even done inauguration

i dont fear money because i dont have to use it
i dont fear failing classes

i fear living with random strangers on-and-off for 4 years

And fantasticaly amazing?
can you party rock in the house
 
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Professor Pumpkaboo

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dont give me ptsd now


im stressed and i havent even done inauguration

i dont fear money because i dont have to use it
i dont fear failing classes

i fear living with random strangers on-and-off for 4 years


can you party rock in the house
I did community college and had FASFA so that wasn't a problem and I hated failing. Fail pre calc trig twice, had to withdraw the 3rd time because I was failing and having a mental breakdown at the same time

finally passed it, got told I had enough **** to graduate and ****ing left
 

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Quick question: I'll change my department this year. Is transition hard?
Between similar majors not so much (I went from Chemical Engineering to Mechanical Engineering at UNR), but I'm not sure about two distinct ones as I transferred from one college to another (though Truckee Meadows Community College accepted University of Nevada, Reno credits, so idk). I guess it's easier in between STEM fields.

Also I'm not familiar with how non-American schooling works, so it might be different where you're at...
 
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amazonevan19

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college is interesting

you are way more free to make your own schedule and stuff, as opposed to how the first 12 years of your schooling goes.

But you have more responsibilities to make sure you are doing enough to study as much as you need to and get your work done on time, all while managing how the **** you're going to pay for it, if you aren't just going to take out loans. Which, you will then need to figure out how the **** to pay those...not fun.

So college is really enjoyable because you are indeed more "free" compared to high school, but it comes with its own set of stresses and problems too.

My advice? Take each day one at a time, and ENJOY LEARNING. Do NOT be in a rush to get out of school. College is the last grand time in your life that you can just sit back and enjoy learning. Well not really sit back - you still have to work hard - but you know what I mean
 

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wanna know the best thing about getting money from FASFA? I had friends who were rejected because, apparently, their guardian earned enough income. Like FASFA is giving them the money

Passed friend also got reject because "you make too much"

and another great thing, before I withdrew out of my math class, we had a test


everyone failed the test. I had like, a 20
 
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That sounds...bad.

But i'm still sure it'll be an amazingly amazing time! For the first time in my life i'll be free! That's gotta be good, right?
As a young kiddo who knows nothing about college, I’ll assume you’d enjoy it.
It’ll probably take a lot of damn work, but like you said, freedom.
On top of socialising, and learning feels damn satisfying.
School tends to make me happy, anyway.
Chase your ambitions.
 

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Does mass tagging everyone and saying about how you feel about them in a short way count as spam?
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If you feel like you absolutely need to do that I don't feel like I'd call it spam. Just try to keep it contained to one post, mate.

Edit: Everybody may be a bit overboard but go for it, cant be any different than the mass tags at the end of the spec thread.
 
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If that’s really the case with Steve then I’m probably convinced he isn’t happening.

As for the Grinch leak, I was one of the strong believers so I admit I should’ve been more skeptical but in it’s defense, it wasn’t your typical 4chan leak of any sort.

There was evidence that backed up even when it turned out to be invalid in the end.

The printing company, Grinch promotions, Eric Bricard’s employment etc, a lot of things had a lot of it in its favor but someone really went through all that, then I’m confident that it was a giant scheme against the Smash community with Mariotehplumber being involved.
Gonna have to interject on this whole Smash talk with talking about this. When did all of a sudden people say that the Grinch Hoax isn't impressive? I've been seeing that a lot lately. If you ask me, out of all the "fake leaks" we've had in the past five or so Smash games, this one was the best of them all. The Metal Gear Solid V reference alone with the placement of Snake and Banjo & Kazooie really got a lot of people, and would definitely be in-line of something the dev team would do. Hell, look no further than the character interactions with the recent Piranha Plant showing.

Really, going into November, the Grinch Hoax turning out fake only was half of the salt pouring on the wounds, as the other half I'll still stand by saying with that Direct being quite honestly a pretty underwhelming showing. If there's anything to be critical of Nintendo and Sakurai of was the Direct itself, definitely not the Grinch Hoax, however.

I really hope that going into this DLC cycle with us getting 5 packs (characters, stages, music, Classic & Palutena's Guidance, etc.), that Sakurai learned from what he did in August when he went overboard a bit with reveals. Gotta keep a semi-smooth pace.
It definitely had more substance to it than the typical "Hey check out this random image," with the whole narrative and extra evidence surrounding it. But I guess it just reminded me of the "Survivor 2299" hoax for Fallout 4 back in 2013, which I've brought up before, where some guy spent almost a thousand dollars on a fake teaser site for Fallout 4, in order to A) screw with Fallout fans, and B) prod Bethesda into making a statement. I remembered also (but haven't been able to find where it was stated) that the site was also hosted near Bethesda itself and was programmed similarly to their sites, making it seem more legitimate.

So someone going through the work to attach Eric Bricard and the marketing company as a means of giving the hoax more legitimacy wasn't surprising to me. Especially since much of that information was publicly available, so any crafty dirtbag looking for an obscure European marketing company could utilize that. Or, if what I remember reading is true, Eric Bricard was friends with that Mariotehplumber guy, and that's how the whole thing was able to happen in the first place. Indeed, the fact that a marketing company was behind it didn't give it that much more legitimacy, since someone who works in marketing/graphic design is the perfect person to have the technical skill to make the hoax themselves in the first place. Especially since there was no evidence that said marketing firm was in any way associated with Nintendo, let alone that Nintendo would allow third party marketing companies to know what the rest of the roster was, so Eric Bricard making the hoax himself would be more likely (especially with the attitude of the leak) than him actually having the official mural artwork.

And then given the mural artwork being the center of it, I remembered this fantastic art where someone put Bomberman into the mural that totally matched the art style and everything. And that wasn't even for a hoax. If someone could manage that, it's not a stretch for it to be done with other characters. By blurring the image, too, you only have to put in a fraction of the effort, since all the details won't be visible. Any reasonably talented artist who's decent with Photoshop could pull it off. If the picture was unblurred and clear, having the same amount of artistry and craft as that Bomberman rendition, then it would be way less sketchy. But in typical hoax fashion, the meat and bones of the image is out of focus, so there's conveniently no way to definitively debunk it.

On top of the fact that it all went contrary to Sakurai's statements about how many characters to expect, as well as contradicting Vergeben's claims (and he was the only one out of the sea of "leakers" and "insiders" to not have made an incorrect claim). It had too many characters, and included Mach Rider and Chorus Kids, two characters whose only significance come from a joke comment Sakurai made over a decade ago and a minor record in Smash 4's game files, respectively. Educated pulls for the "random character pick" criteria, but besides those minor connections, there wasn't any reason to consider them as likely picks.

Overall the more I thought about and analyzed the hoax, the less it made sense. It's impressive in the amount of effort that went into making it seem convincing, but not impressive with how convincing it actually was. The blurriness was an immediate red flag, and the other elements of the hoax imitated a marketing company, but not necessarily a marketing company that anyone could verify was actually working with Nintendo or would have clearance for the full mural. But it was enough to seem real at first glance, and it got enough traction and support that no one really did too much critical thinking to consider the reasons why it might be fake.

I would've loved for it to be real and shatter our expectations, but sadly that was not to be.

At the very least, it'll stand as an example to not get too convinced by any supposed "leaks" in the future. Any time something similarly complex but still dubious comes along, people can point to the Grinch hoax and say "Yeah, but this is what people can be capable of." I guess I was just the only one who remembered Survivor 2299, so hopefully more people will remember the Grinch hoax.
 

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ed boon dont play me like this
I am not familiar with MK11 or how Boon does things, but seeing him being so open about Shaggy memes makes me feel it's not happening, like he's in on the joke but it's obviously not *actually* going to be a thing.

It's all just for ****s, memes and giggles
 
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