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[Deleted member]

So, how is everyone?

 

[Hockeyfan44]

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Opossum

Final request from last night. Chrom

Spoiler

Like Dedede, I didn't reinvent the wheel here.

For those of you who didn't know, last night I said I would redesign the main of anyone who asked. I still want too if anyone is interested.

 

[Wademan94]

TFW Waluigi should have been in Smash 64 over Mario

I know it’s a joke, but I just wanted to mention that Waluigi didn’t even exist when Smash 64 was being developed.

 

[Alternis]

Whole series. There are more options through taking from the entire series. Realistically, Dragon Quest 3 only has the overworld, town, dungeon, and battle themes. They would all fit if the stage was Alefgard in its entirety, maybe as a melody like the Paper Mario medley.

I already made a post of ten songs they can choose from DQ. Pretty sure you saw it. I think the sound selection would go something like this with a lot of battle or overworld themes.

Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure, since Erdrick is title that appears in several games, but not every game, if I remember correctly. Again no one here knows for sure how the music will be distributed.

I suppose the real concern is if we'll get orchestrated arrangements or not...

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

In other news, a Switch game was announced:

Spoiler

This a late April Fools joke or something?

(Note: Slightly NSFW)

What the ****

 

[osby]

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

Likely because different countries have different race stereotypes. I need other fans to point out they're considered racist, because that associations don't exist in where I live.

 

[Deleted member]

Let me reiterate: I need four tributes per user, because this time around I'm making it so that each participating user's getting an entire district/team to themselves. I can't just add you guys on your own. You each need three more tributes to fill out your districts.

Ooo!
Add Evoker, Alphonse Elric, Forrest from FE, Forrest Gump and I.
If that is too much, remove Alphonse Elric.

 

[Deleted member]

I suppose the real concern is if we'll get orchestrated arrangements or not...

This really is my biggest concern over the music.

 

[KarneraMythos]

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

Back in my day, the only race problems I had in Smash was this:

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Ooo!
Add Evoker, Alphonse Elric, Forrest from FE, Forrest Gump and I.
If that is too much, remove Alphonse Elric.

Sorry Shiny, but you've missed the deadline. Every district's been taken already.

I'll tag you when I start taking tributes for round three.

 

[SneakyLink]

This really is my biggest concern over the music.

Would be dumb if all we got was a single MIDI.

 

[Deleted member]

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

Bald Bull is a powerhouse who can literally knock you down with one punch in the Punch Out series. I assume DK's being used because DK has a really strong neutral-b and is just strong in general.

Dee Jay is a dude with a lot of acrobatic movement with all limbs. Diddy Kong also fits this criteria. Both do crazy flips in the air.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Would be dumb if all we got was a single MIDI.

"this is my final offer"
- sugiyama probably

 

[PeridotGX]

I'm taking tributes for round two of my Hunger Games Grand Finale now!

I'm not adding any tributes of my own choosing this round, so that at least one member who might miss out otherwise will get a chance to participate in this one.

@TotsBS @TheCJBrine KarneraMythos Opossum and @KMDP already have reserved districts for this round, so there's seven districts left to fill. Get 'em while you can! And remember, each participating user is getting an entire district to themselves. Every district has four tributes, so that's four tributes per user. If you want to participate, I need you to nominate exactly four tributes. No more, no less.

EDIT: The slots are filled! No more users can participate in this one. Just giving a warning for anyone who sees this post too late and isn't caught up. I'm not reserving slots for round three right now.

are there still open districts? If so, can you add Cool Typhlosion , Blue Diamond, Mr.Burns, and Marx?

 

[Deleted member]

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

It's been discussed before but it never goes anywhere.
Mr. Sandman? Ok, I can buy that as an Unfortunate Accident as there's an ingame link to them being final bosses in Punch-Out.
The black Villager as Tak? The skin changed mid-development and the blue shirt is likely what was used to relate.
But Diddy as Dee Jay? That's when Nintendo should have stopped to think what they were doing and nakes it really hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Likely because different countries have different race stereotypes. I need other fans to point out they're considered racist, because that associations don't exist in where I live.

I really don't want to have to post that Japanese ad for bananas featuring a black guy

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

I think it's less racist and more of an unfortunate coincidence. Aside from the unfortunate implications, I'd say DK and Diddy both respectively fit Mr Sandman and Deejay very well. Mr Sandman is a burly strong heavyweight, much like Donkey Kong, and Diddy is very acrobatic and his moves can be considered very dance like, which makes sense for Dee Jay. I highly doubt they were chosen because of the monkey comparisons

 

[SneakyLink]

Bald Bull is a powerhouse who can literally knock you down with one punch in the Punch Out series. I assume DK's being used because DK has a really strong neutral-b and is just strong in general.

Dee Jay is a dude with a lot of acrobatic movement with all limbs. Diddy Kong also fits this criteria. Both do crazy flips in the air.

Actually, Bald Bull is represented as Little Mac

The original post might’ve meant DK as Mr Sandman

Edit:

 

[Gentlepanda]

Bald Bull is a powerhouse who can literally knock you down with one punch in the Punch Out series. I assume DK's being used because DK has a really strong neutral-b and is just strong in general.

Dee Jay is a dude with a lot of acrobatic movement with all limbs. Diddy Kong also fits this criteria. Both do crazy flips in the air.

diddy kong also straight up has a boombox, sideways cap and sunglasses in some of his DKC animations

i'm pretty sure this is as far as the 'DJ' reference goes

 

[Teeb147]

Bald Bull is a powerhouse who can literally knock you down with one punch in the Punch Out series. I assume DK's being used because DK has a really strong neutral-b and is just strong in general.

Dee Jay is a dude with a lot of acrobatic movement with all limbs. Diddy Kong also fits this criteria. Both do crazy flips in the air.

They might've been able to use ganondorf for bald bull maybe. (or sandman, if that's it?)
Other than that, it's kinda hard to have perfect reps.

 

[Deleted member]

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

it's one of those things that definitely didn't have any sort of racist intent behind them but it's still racist

no idea how the localizers didn't catch on to it tbh

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

diddy kong also straight up has a boombox, sideways cap and sunglasses in some of his DKC animations

i'm pretty sure this is as far as the 'DJ' reference goes

It’s an injustice that this isn’t one of his victory animations.

 

[Deleted member]

Actually, Bald Bull is represented as Little Mac

The original post might’ve meant DK as Mr Sandman

Hm. Same difference as far as I'm concerned. Fighting Sandman in Punch Out sometimes feels like I'm fighting a big gigantic ape (which is to say he kicks my ass). Probably could have used Ganondorf for that fight, but I think this is stretching out how racist this actually is. Punch Out has fast heavy weight boxers so use the relatively fast heavy weight character.

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry Shiny, but you've missed the deadline. Every district's been taken already.

I'll tag you when I start taking tributes for round three.

It is all good! :]

 

[Opossum]

Opossum

Final request from last night. Chrom

Spoiler

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Like Dedede, I didn't reinvent the wheel here.

For those of you who didn't know, last night I said I would redesign the main of anyone who asked. I still want too if anyone is interested.

You know Chrom probably would be the type to have a mullet lol. I think that's a pretty good concept for a more westernized Chrom. The one thing I'd add, personally, is the Brand of the Exalt to the right pauldron, since it's an important aspect of his design. Usually it's on display due to him not having a right sleeve in his base design, but usually when Chrom dons full armor it appears on his pauldron.

 

[Pyra]

Spoiler: XC2

i decided to put Pandoria on Rex (so now it’s Pyra/Mythra, Nia, and Pandoria). Might as well collect my favorite story blades in one place. Also Zeke has Zenobia and KOS-MOS so he can deal with losing his girlfriend

 

[Deleted member]

In other news, a Switch game was announced:

Spoiler

This a late April Fools joke or something?

(Note: Slightly NSFW)

WTF

I can't stay silent anymore.
I surely can't be the only one who is really disturbed by the fact that the Smash development team elected to have Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong represent Bald Bull and Dee Jay in Spirit battles. How is that not racist? It most obviously is. I just want to slam my head on a wall. How did the development team not think this through? Believe me, I'm trying to describe this the best I possibly can, but it's mind boggling.

I doubt it, considering that we have Doc Louis being represented by Little Mac they probably just went for DK to vary things. Plus DK also was a guest in Punch Out for the Wii.

They might've been able to use ganondorf for bald bull maybe. (or sandman, if that's it?)
Other than that, it's kinda hard to have perfect reps.

Considering Ganondorf has a sword now, I dont think he would fit so much.

 

[KarneraMythos]

In other news, a Switch game was announced:

Spoiler

This a late April Fools joke or something?

(Note: Slightly NSFW)

The name already gave me a heckin' chuckle.

 

[Deleted member]

Considering Ganondorf has a sword now, I dont think he would fit so much.

You underestimate what Punch Out boxers bring into the ring sometimes.

 

[Will]

You underestimate what Punch Out boxers bring into the ring sometimes.

yeah but heres the difference:

a sword can kill you in one hit immediately

 

[KingofPhantoms]

are there still open districts? If so, can you add Cool Typhlosion , Blue Diamond, Mr.Burns, and Marx?

I'm afraid not. I'll tag when I'm working on round three, though. You can add those tributes then.

 

[Deleted member]

it's one of those things that definitely didn't have any sort of racist intent behind them but it's still racist

no idea how the localizers didn't catch on to it tbh

This is something to remember too, it reminds me of this video I saw about Sister Krone from The Promised Neverland. The depiction ends up being racist but it doesn't mean it was intentional, it's simply an example of how this sort of racism is ingrained into our minds and criticism to these depictions isn't meant to say the creator is a bigot racist, but to make people more aware of it and prevent the issue from happening again.

In this case in particular, the authors of the manga even expressed regret due to how she was depicted and the manga has ever since had many other black characters that don't fall into racist stereotypes which shows they really did learn something.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

G

You know Chrom probably would be the type to have a mullet lol. I think that's a pretty good concept for a more westernized Chrom. The one thing I'd add, personally, is the Brand of the Exalt to the right pauldron, since it's an important aspect of his design. Usually it's on display due to him not having a right sleeve in his base design, but usually when Chrom dons full armor it appears on his pauldron.

Gatcha! I’ll keep that in mind.

 

[Deleted member]

yeah but heres the difference:

a sword can kill you

I don't think the WVBA cares about my safety when Donkey Kong literally kidnaps Mac in Punch Out Wii.

 

[KarneraMythos]

You underestimate what Punch Out boxers bring into the ring sometimes.

When they say they want to beat you to the punch. Literally.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think the WVBA cares about my safety when Donkey Kong literally kidnaps Mac in Punch Out Wii.

Does Little Mac has anyone to save him in this case? Doubt Doc can do it.

 

[Deleted member]

Mario doesn’t deserve to be in Smash
Discuss

who the **** is mario

 

[Deleted member]

Does Little Mac has anyone to save him in this case? Doubt Doc can do it.

Hilariously, in Mac's Last Stand (the mode in which you can fight Donkey Kong), you go through an arcade-like boss rush where you can only lose three times before Mac officially retires. Legitimately, this could be Mac's last battle before it cuts to the future where Mac is just a remembered boxer. Implications are over the place at that point.

 

[Opossum]

In other news, a Switch game was announced:

Spoiler

This a late April Fools joke or something?

(Note: Slightly NSFW)

The comment section providing meme material like a real MVP.

 

[Will]

Does Little Mac has anyone to save him in this case? Doubt Doc can do it.

i mean

mario was a referee once, so it confirms he exists

mac will be the damsel in distress