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[Cutie Gwen]

So the RGG Studio said there's no current plans for Yakuza games on the Switch and that Sakurai wouldn't want Kiryu and Majima in Smash. I thought I'd be having a good day today but apparently not. Kiryu's like the only 'grounded' character I'd want other than Pheonix Wright

 

[Idon]

But man, imagine if Chief actually made it to Smash. It might even be a bigger announcement than Snake and Cloud considering he is literally the mascot of Xbox.

I'm getting ready to see that Kratos thread get a little more supporters.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That's the mistake. That's the problem. It shouldn't have become as popular as it is and people need to wake up and realize how bad and limited the game actually is.

The game is only bad and limited to you.

Yes, it should've become as big as it did. It absolutely deserved it. People chose to capitalize off of a successful franchise because it not only sold well, but even before Microsoft took over, it was still beyond massive.

There's a difference between not liking a series and downplaying how important it is.

 

[Wademan94]

wait hol' up i thought the game was based off the movie

unless i'm being woooshed

i'm totally being woooshed aren't i

I hate to break it to ya but...

< The joke

@faygoshill

Yeah.

 

[Deleted member]

Terraria > Minecraft

terraria is the ****ing bomb tbh

love that game

 

[staindgrey]

On the other hand, I will say that when somebody says “I don’t like it” the worst thing you could do is invalidate what they think and then say, “Whatever, idc, I like it” and then post a meme or picture. That more or less belittles what the other person says. I recommend a more, “Why” type of questioning as simply approaching the “what” defensively.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, Jones.

When someone likes or dislikes something and states so publicly, it's nobody's job to validate that opinion. It's the opinion-sharer's job to present his or her opinion in an approachable and interesting way in order to spawn a discussion; putting the onus on other people to try and give weight to an opinion that is being aggressively thrown around as fact is misplacing that responsibility.

There are opinions that are meant to be talked about and then there are opinions that are meant to be antagonistic. The former gets a "why" reaction, the latter gets a "what". It starts with how the opinion is shared.

 

[Deleted member]

But man, imagine if Chief actually made it to Smash. It might even be a bigger announcement than Snake and Cloud considering he is literally the mascot of Xbox.

That's why I have Master Chief in my signature over someone like Doom Guy. I want a first person shooter in Smash Bros and I think Halo would add a lot due to the space war theme going on. There's a lot you can do with its visuals and how MC could utilize his weapons in his moveset.

It's still sort of unclear over how Nintendo feel about using actual guns in Smash though. Only real issue I can see. Otherwise, give me Master Chief

 

[Teeb147]

#Terraria4Smash

That's actually super awesome. I didn't really take the time to make stuff in terraria, but considering i like 2 graphics i really should XD

Wouldn't mind a 3d Terraria too. (and minecraft doesnt count cuz there's tons of stuff i dont like about it. )
I do think minecraft deserves some praise tho, and I want more builder games.

 

[Deleted member]

I hate to break it to ya but...

< The joke

@faygoshill

Yeah.

avenge the fallen

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

This octopath mobile game has a nice looking plague doctor

 

[Deleted member]

My experience with Terraria was fun, until I lost all of my gold.
I will continue with my adventure someday though.

 

[Wademan94]

avenge the fallen

But you’re still here in the room with us?

 

[Deleted member]

Opinions are opinions. They are completely subjective. It's fine to have an opinion, just don't be overly antagonistic or present it as objective.

 

[Deleted member]

This octopath mobile game has a nice looking plague doctor
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is this cyrus two

 

[Cutie Gwen]

btw Minecraft being in Smash would be cool as it'd be the only game that came from space as no human being made Minecraft

 

[Idon]

My experience with Terraria was fun, until I lost all of my gold.
I will continue with my adventure someday though.

Shoulda bought a piggy bank, man.

 

[Cyn]

This octopath mobile game has a nice looking plague doctor
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Just wait for him to put on his mask.

 

[Gentlepanda]

is this cyrus two

unparalleled boogaloo

 

[Deleted member]

But you’re still here in the room with us?

the soul stone has a surprisingly solid internet connection

btw Minecraft being in Smash would be cool as it'd be the only game that came from space as no human being made Minecraft

in the beginning, there was nothing. and then, there was minecraft

 

[KMDP]

Then can SOMEBODY explain why? I tried it and had such a poor experience with it, and even conceptually it dosn't make sense to me. It's limited. You can only make whatever you want if that fits within the blocky-3D/8-bit art style and if the game has the EXACT materials and textures you want. Why is such a limited thing popular when you could just draw, or sculpt, or write or actually create something with no limitations?

Okay.

1. I take it you've never heard the phrase "limitation breeds creativity".
2. Not everyone has the time or energy to learn how to draw, sculpt or write; but learning how a video game works takes very little time since it's all made up of transferable skills.
3. Some people find the blocky aesthetic charming.

 

[Deleted member]

Minecraft was made by aliens from over 13 billion light years away to fulfill their plan to brainwash the human population.

 

[Deleted member]

anyways look at this flerken cat

 

[CallMeKnux]

btw Minecraft being in Smash would be cool as it'd be the only game that came from space as no human being made Minecraft

Nuts & Bolts came from space sooo

 

[Aurane]

I'm not gonna lie. This whole Minecraft topic you guys have conjured here is incredibly toxic. Can we please move on?

 

[Gentlepanda]

anyways look at this flerken cat
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it is i, captain meowvel

 

[Deleted member]

That's actually super awesome. I didn't really take the time to make stuff in terraria, but considering i like 2 graphics i really should XD

Wouldn't mind a 3d Terraria too. (and minecraft doesnt count cuz there's tons of stuff i dont like about it. )
I do think minecraft deserves some praise tho, and I want more builder games.

I never really built anything amazing in Terraria because I was more of the person who wanted to slay all of the bosses instead.

This is what glory looks like.


Minecraft didn't fill the combat niche that Terraria had, though. It's atmosphere was surprisingly brilliant for its minimalist presentation, but that's all I can say I feel it has over Terraria beyond the mods. (**** losing all of your items when you die.) I don't think I'd have Terraria without Minecraft, though, so I respect Minecraft and it would be the closest thing I can get to Terraria in Smash lol.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm not gonna lie. This whole Minecraft topic you guys have conjured here is incredibly toxic. Can we please move on?

I agree, let's talk about something else that will not cause some kind of drama.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

it is i, captain meowvel

Where's her fangirl Kamala Kat?

I never really built anything amazing in Terraria because I was more of the person who wanted to slay all of the bosses instead.

This is what glory looks like.


Minecraft didn't fill the combat niche that Terraria had, though. It's atmosphere was surprisingly brilliant for its minimalist presentation, but that's all I can say I feel it has over Terraria beyond the mods. (**** losing all of your items when you die.) I don't think I'd have Terraria without Minecraft, though, so I respect Minecraft and it would be the closest thing I can get to Terraria in Smash lol.

please do not post pictures of me on here

 

[staindgrey]

I agree, let's talk about something else that will not cause some kind of drama.

Yeah. Like Goku.

Go nuts, people.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Then can SOMEBODY explain why? I tried it and had such a poor experience with it, and even conceptually it dosn't make sense to me. It's limited. You can only make whatever you want if that fits within the blocky-3D/8-bit art style and if the game has the EXACT materials and textures you want. Why is such a limited thing popular when you could just draw, or sculpt, or write or actually create something with no limitations?

Guh-Huzzah! , I think this answers your question.

Look, nothing is perfect, everything has limitations. I think one reason you dislike this game is because you are expecting way to much out of it.

 

[Idon]

I never really built anything amazing in Terraria because I was more of the person who wanted to slay all of the bosses instead.

This is what glory looks like.


Minecraft didn't fill the combat niche that Terraria had, though. It's atmosphere was surprisingly brilliant for its minimalist presentation, but that's all I can say I feel it has over Terraria beyond the mods. (**** losing all of your items when you die.) I don't think I'd have Terraria without Minecraft, though, so I respect Minecraft and it would be the closest thing I can get to Terraria in Smash lol.

Meanwhile I've yet to actually defeat a post-hardmode boss.

 

[Metal Shop X]

I be frank here, I am not a fan of Steve getting in Smash, he is one of the few characters I just can't see working proprerly without him looking out of place, and not in a good way like say, , Steve has just a design that seem too limiting to work well in Smash.


....buuuuut, if he does get in, and Sakurai somehow make him work perfectly, you can make sure I be be eating my words as fast as possible. If he can make a plant in a pot playable. interesting & fun to play with, I trust that Sakurai & his team can make Steve a good addition to the roster.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Go nuts, people.

like banjo-kazooie: nuts & bolts for the xbox 360

 

[Aurane]

please do not post pictures of me on here

I gotta say Gwen...

You're quite the sight for sore eyes.

 

[Pyra]

Then can SOMEBODY explain why? I tried it and had such a poor experience with it, and even conceptually it dosn't make sense to me. It's limited. You can only make whatever you want if that fits within the blocky-3D/8-bit art style and if the game has the EXACT materials and textures you want. Why is such a limited thing popular when you could just draw, or sculpt, or write or actually create something with no limitations?.

see sf

this is what people have a problem with

not that you have opinions but that you're so damn militant and arrogant with them

Yeah basically what my son said

I don't at all agree with the opinion but that's besides the point.
You can't just try to assert such subjective things as if you're correct about that because there's no truth value to such things.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I feel like the only true “rules” of Smash “speculation” come down to how we use language or just assume likelihood based on what we want to be likely.

1) The concept of “deserving” a spot in Smash implies that there are spots for series as Sakurai sees them “fit for Smash” or that Smash is some sort of fabled Gaming Hall of Fame that excludes games that are clearly hall of fame games, like Halo, God of War, Uncharted...true quality titles that will likely never be in Smash.

To deserve means to have earned something, and to “earn” something one has to actually engage in some sort of activity. This doesn’t really work when you realize the game itself is not sentient. The game itself did nothing, the creator(s) did something amazing.

Basically, a character can’t really be “deserving” in the traditional sense.

2) “Likelyhood” is based almost entirely on what we perceive to be true, mixed with what we want to be true. The Grinch Leak and frankly the extreme rise in “Steve is in” has proven this to me at the very least.

Likelyhood for Smash has no definition, and it would be hard to create one that didn’t anger one side of the fanbase or another. There mainly assumptions based on what we literally see in the game, but we really won’t know what is “likely” for Ultimate when it comes to characters until it’s too late to figure it out in the first place.

Is Waluigi likely for DLC? We can’t really say. It entirely depends on the design of the game itself. Does the dev team see Assist Trophies as an ironclad position once programmed? We won’t know until Ultimate is done done.

3) Not really a “rule”, but something I think needs to get buried is the “relationship with Nintendo” rule. Nintendo is going to have 3 characters who are hardly seen as Nintendo gaming mascots, and they’re 3 characters that don’t even necessarily fit the Nintendo “style”. I say “style” because i’ve been told that Snake wouldn’t come back because he didn’t “fit” with Nintendo, like Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man did.

Then, each subsequent 3rd party was validated because “muh Nintendo connection”, which is dumb. Cloud, Snake, and Joker are hardly Nintendo at all. They are gaming characters that come from successful games, and bring something interesting to a crossover game that brings a ton of different ideas together.

You know who else looks “out of place” next to each other? Mario, the guy with a huge head and nose, and Ike, a normal looking human who can wield a 2 handed sword with one hand.

It’s a crossover. The characters being different is the entire purpose.

May have gotten carried away, but I don’t think we’ll have concrete “rules” until after Ultimate is done. Nobody expected Joker, and while we have an idea that Erdrick is coming and Dragon Quest is a “legacy” series, there still simply isn’t enough available to make a serious claim as to what we’re going to see to cap off Smash Ultimate.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

is this cyrus two

Its Cyrus². The dudes in this game look top notch so far from what Ive seen

 

[Pyra]

Yeah. Like Goku.

Go nuts, people.

Son Goku or some other incarnation of Sun Wukong needs to be in Smash. In this essay, I will--

 

[Iridium]

I just had another dog randomly try to attack me as I was walking home. Why do they hate me so much?

 

[Deleted member]

Meanwhile I've yet to actually defeat a post-hardmode boss.

Gonna be real when I say I started cheating hardmode after I got tired of the potion grinding. (I actually had a deadline for beating Terraria because college.) When you have to learn a whole new game, enemies, items, options, etc, just to beat the mechanical bosses, I feel something could have been done to linearly teach me how to play through everything like how you started off pre-hardmode.
When I cheated and got an item one tier above when I should have gotten it, though, it started feeling more manageable and fun. No shame because I don't feel like losing to the Moon Lord and fighting the Lunatic Cultist and the Lunar Events to have another shot.