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[Wademan94]

these aren't that unpopular besides the last thing

I don’t know many others that think F-Zero should stay dead.

 

[staindgrey]

I don't agree, but I can kind of see where you're coming from.

It all comes down to gameplay.

In survival horror, the key to gameplay is a lack of resources. A finite amount of resources that are hidden on the outskirts of the easiest path, thus demanding you to make constant choices between killing and running, is the entire core concept. In RE4, when you use ammo to shoot things, you are rewarded with more ammo to shoot more things. Whole segments don't allow you to progress until you've killed every enemy in the area-- and when you're done killing them, you leave with more ammo than you started. It's an action game.

RE4 was horror in aesthetics only. And it sold so well because it was an action game that other series-- Silent Hill and Alone in the Dark in particular-- tried to mimic that formula with mediocre to terrible results. For fans of actual survival horror, we didn't get a new game to play until Amnesia-- and even then, that's an entirely different genre of survival horror with totally different core gameplay. It's like comparing Halo to Gears of War. Yes, both are shooters, but they're as similar in core game mechanics as Spanish and Portuguese are as languages.

I don't hate RE4 by any means-- I've beaten it probably five times across GCN, Wii and X360-- but I hate what it did to my favorite subgenre of games for a decade. You can only replay REmake so many times before the magic's just gone.

 

[AndreaAC]

My favorite Zelda is BOTW.

Because that's the only one i've really played.

XD I feel it is kind of similar to my case with Twilight Princess...when I was younger, I "kinda" played OoT and Majora's...but for one reason or another, never finished them. It was totally different with TP, and I replayed it over and over because I just had fun with it, and mostly saved my 3 favorite Boss Fights (Stallord, Zant and Ganondorf), and I did the same with Metroid Prime 3, but I saved all the Ridley encounters (At the beginning in Norion where he tries to kill Samus when She's in the morphball, the Generator Shaft Fight and the Leviathan one) and mostly roam around the Pirate Homeworld when I wanted to relax.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm very interested.

I'm also very poor.

Well, the only other option I can think of emulation, if you're good at it. Just...don't nearly crash your computer trying it like I did lol.

 

[ClaTheBae]

I don’t know many others that think F-Zero should stay dead.

There isn't really an F-Zero union either. People like the series but it is rare to see people as passionate about its return compared to other franchises with long hiatuses.

 

[Noipoi]

Well, the only other option I can think of emulation, if you're good at it. Just...don't nearly crash your computer trying it like I did lol.

Never tried Emulation actually. Is it tricky?

 

[Idon]

I'm very interested.

I'm also very poor.

Well, one, it's not impossible and there are tons of games that don't need a controller.
JRPGs and SRPGs being one of them.
COUGH SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI.
COUGH FIRE EMBLEM

On top of that, you could of course, just get an xbox 360 controller which are going for less than 15 bucks nowadays.

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Smash 4 is better than Brawl

This is an unpopular opinion? I always thought most said Brawl was the worst which is something I disagree with.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Never tried Emulation actually. Is it tricky?

you're so innocent

 

[Opossum]

This is an unpopular opinion? I always thought most said Brawl was the worst which is something I disagree with.

The real unpopular opinion would be that Smash 4 had better single player than Brawl.

 

[Alternis]

While we're still on this: Xenoblade 2 is a great game that I really enjoyed, so it's disheartening and irritating to see people dismiss it just because a couple of characters have awkward or poor designs, or because Rex has mediocre voice acting. Often these issues are generalized to seem as if they plague the whole game; they don't. I'm not saying you must like the game, but I just wish people would try something before letting appearances define their whole opinion.

 

[Deleted member]

My unpopular gaming opinions...

- Minecraft is probably one of the best sandbox games ever released and it is so much better than that Dragon Quest build thingy.

- I do not mind the Sonic Boom designs.

- DLC always makes a game more fun.

- A fresh new Super Mario Bros 2 game would be pretty interesting actually. They could use the Mario Land / 3D World Mechanics and it would work perfectly.

- Pirating / Emulating games are a completely uncool move and totally a crime.

- Smash Bros. Wii U's single player is not as bad as people put it.

- Ultimate had the best single player out of any Smash Bros game by far.

 

[staindgrey]

This is an unpopular opinion? I always thought most said Brawl was the worst which is something I disagree with.

Brawl is the worst competitive fighter because it's not fun to watch at all. But it's the best single-player experience by a long shot.

Ultimately people decide which is better based on what they want to play it more for. But the competitive scene for Brawl never quite lived up to what Melee, For and Ultimate have been. It depends on if you judge the game as a standalone gaming experience or as a fighting game community.

 

[Noipoi]

Well, one, it's not impossible and there are tons of games that don't need a controller.
JRPGs and SRPGs being one of them.
COUGH SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI.
COUGH FIRE EMBLEM

On top of that, you could of course, just get an xbox 360 controller which are going for less than 15 bucks nowadays.

Wait, if SMT can be pirated...

Can...can the Persona games be pirated?

 

[Blargg888]

Okay, time to get a feel for reactions.

Sakurai, after announcing the fifth and final Fighter Pass character, announces that there's one more character left...a surprise. One that breaks previous notions of what sorts of characters are allowed, after making an unprecedented agreement. Sakurai states that for just this once, and this once only, a character who didn't originate in a video game will be joining Smash. He says that this was tough to accomplish, but given that this character performed really well on the Ballot, Sakurai was determined to make it work.

The trailer plays. A misty mountaintop is seen, above a jungle. The camera zooms in on the jungle, to Wario being chased by...something. A shadow looms over Wario as he's trapped beside a mountain. Out from the bushes jumps a snarling...squirrel. Wario, unamused, shakes his head...only for another, larger shadow to loom over. Out from the bushes emerges...

"Ah! Wario. You're the last one I needed for Smash Bros. Bingo."

Spoiler

KRONK
Squeaks By!

Geno and Isaac: No... It can’t be! How did you get into Smash Bros. before us?
Fighter Pass #5: Ah... How did we, Kronk?
Kronk: Well you got me. By all accounts it doesn’t make sense.

 

[ClaTheBae]

While we're still on this: Xenoblade 2 is a great game that I really enjoyed, so it's disheartening and irritating to see people dismiss it just because a couple of characters have awkward or poor designs, or because Rex has mediocre voice acting. Often these issues are generalized to seem as if they plague the whole game; they don't. I'm not saying you must like the game, but I just wish people would try something before letting appearances define their whole opinion.

there are plenty of actual design flaws in the gameplay. many have found it to be clunky and cumbersome, and there is no excuse for the way field skills were handled.

 

[Idon]

Wait, if SMT can be pirated...

Can...can the Persona games be pirated?

Well yeah.
but that wasn't what I was getting at.

 

[Noipoi]

Geno and Isaac: No! It can’t be... How did you get into Smash before us?
Fighter Pass #5: Ah... How did we, Kronk?
Kronk: Well you got me. By all accounts it doesn’t make sense.

One of his taunts better be-
"Oh right, the poison..."

 

[ClaTheBae]

- Minecraft is probably one of the best sandbox games ever released and it is so much better than that Dragon Quest build thingy.

how could you say something controversial yet so brave? /s

- Pirating / Emulating games are a completely uncool move and totally a crime.

it is one of the most feasible ways to play older games without dropping a few hundred dollars on aftermarket game consoles.

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, time to get a feel for reactions.

Sakurai, after announcing the fifth and final Fighter Pass character, announces that there's one more character left...a surprise. One that breaks previous notions of what sorts of characters are allowed, after making an unprecedented agreement. Sakurai states that for just this once, and this once only, a character who didn't originate in a video game will be joining Smash. He says that this was tough to accomplish, but given that this character performed really well on the Ballot, Sakurai was determined to make it work.

The trailer plays. A misty mountaintop is seen, above a jungle. The camera zooms in on the jungle, to Wario being chased by...something. A shadow looms over Wario as he's trapped beside a mountain. Out from the bushes jumps a snarling...squirrel. Wario, unamused, shakes his head...only for another, larger shadow to loom over. Out from the bushes emerges...

"Ah! Wario. You're the last one I needed for Smash Bros. Bingo."

Spoiler

KRONK
Squeaks By!

I would not be mad whatsoever. Kronk is the homie and Patrick Warburton has a voice of Gold.

 

[staindgrey]

Wait, if SMT can be pirated...

Can...can the Persona games be pirated?

Technically anything can be pirated/emulated but some are significantly harder than others. It depends on how modern it is and what the original hardware was. (Saturn games are notoriously difficult to emulate due to the funky dual-CPU hardware.)

Personally, I'm anti-pirating/emulating. I'm a small business owner and I'm friends with multiple local game store owners. I don't want to start a debate that will take over the thread, but pirating isn't a crime with no victims. I buy my ****, and when I can't afford what I want, I save up or I decide not to buy it. The idea that "I want to play this game, therefore I should be able to play it even though I can't pay for it" isn't something I can be convinced to agree with.

 

[Noipoi]

Well yeah.
but that wasn't what I was getting at.

I think you've saved my wallet.

That is, if my potato computer can run it. Which it probably can't.

 

[Deleted member]

It all comes down to gameplay.

In survival horror, the key to gameplay is a lack of resources. A finite amount of resources that are hidden on the outskirts of the easiest path, thus demanding you to make constant choices between killing and running, is the entire core concept. In RE4, when you use ammo to shoot things, you are rewarded with more ammo to shoot more things. Whole segments don't allow you to progress until you've killed every enemy in the area-- and when you're done killing them, you leave with more ammo than you started. It's an action game.

RE4 was horror in aesthetics only. And it sold so well because it was an action game that other series-- Silent Hill and Alone in the Dark in particular-- tried to mimic that formula with mediocre to terrible results. For fans of actual survival horror, we didn't get a new game to play until Amnesia-- and even then, that's an entirely different genre of survival horror with totally different core gameplay. It's like comparing Halo to Gears of War. Yes, both are shooters, but they're as similar in core game mechanics as Spanish and Portuguese are as languages.

I don't hate RE4 by any means-- I've beaten it probably five times across GCN, Wii and X360-- but I hate what it did to my favorite subgenre of games for a decade. You can only replay REmake so many times before the magic's just gone.

And like I said, I don't agree. Yes, Resident Evil 4 is more action heavy, but I never felt like it lost the horror aspect. I felt like the environments played a big role in this. To me, being stuck in the middle of the woods when's it dark and foggy while being chased by hordes of crazy cult people that also shoot weird eye tentacle...things out of their heads when you shoot them can be scary if done right, and I feel like RE4 handled it right. Not to mention all the mutated giants, Mendez, and the ****ing Regenradors certainly scared the crap out of me, and still kinda freak me out.

I can see where you're coming from, but I still think Resident Evil 4 is scary. I think what seperates 4 from 5 and 6 is that the latter two just felt like they stopped trying to be horror games all together and tried to be something like "House of The Dead: Military Edition". There are many moments in Resident Evil 4, to me, that I still felt like it putting in the effort to scare the crap out of you.

But hey, at least we can agree Resident Evil's finally getting back on track, right?

While we're still on this: Xenoblade 2 is a great game that I really enjoyed, so it's disheartening and irritating to see people dismiss it just because a couple of characters have awkward or poor designs, or because Rex has mediocre voice acting. Often these issues are generalized to seem as if they plague the whole game; they don't. I'm not saying you must like the game, but I just wish people would try something before letting appearances define their whole opinion.

THANK. YOU! Finally! Someone on here that doesn't hate Xenoblade 2!

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, time to get a feel for reactions.

Sakurai, after announcing the fifth and final Fighter Pass character, announces that there's one more character left...a surprise. One that breaks previous notions of what sorts of characters are allowed, after making an unprecedented agreement. Sakurai states that for just this once, and this once only, a character who didn't originate in a video game will be joining Smash. He says that this was tough to accomplish, but given that this character performed really well on the Ballot, Sakurai was determined to make it work.

The trailer plays. A misty mountaintop is seen, above a jungle. The camera zooms in on the jungle, to Wario being chased by...something. A shadow looms over Wario as he's trapped beside a mountain. Out from the bushes jumps a snarling...squirrel. Wario, unamused, shakes his head...only for another, larger shadow to loom over. Out from the bushes emerges...

"Ah! Wario. You're the last one I needed for Smash Bros. Bingo."

Spoiler

KRONK
Squeaks By!

I always thought Sora would be our first Disney representative...

 

[AndreaAC]

- Pirating / Emulating games are a completely uncool move and totally a crime.

Okay, sometimes we don't have a choice if we want to enjoy something. Not everyone can afford certain games or consoles. I had to do that back in the day with the Project64 because well, at the time I didn't had the chance to play the actual N64 and it being my own. With the Gamecube I had the console and used it, same for the Wii, but I didn't wanted to buy the Wii U, and out of nostalgia and having a kind of decent laptop, I got some old games emulated, even though they caused a mess at one point, specially with the crappy Win10. I later got original games from Steam, and depending on what game was, it caused even more problems than the emulated ones. Right now, I can gain and save money, so, I will definitely get a Switch and Smash in the future.

 

[PLATINUM7]

how could you say something controversial yet so brave /s

it is one of the most feasible ways to play older games without dropping a few hundred dollars on aftermarket game consoles.

What if, we just played other games?
Like there's so many I can live with not playing some because I choose not to pirate.

While we're still on this: Xenoblade 2 is a great game that I really enjoyed, so it's disheartening and irritating to see people dismiss it just because a couple of characters have awkward or poor designs, or because Rex has mediocre voice acting. Often these issues are generalized to seem as if they plague the whole game; they don't. I'm not saying you must like the game, but I just wish people would try something before letting appearances define their whole opinion.

Where was the nomination for best soundtrack at the game awards?
Cries in Counterattack

 

[Alternis]

there are plenty of actual design flaws in the gameplay. many have found it to be clunky and cumbersome, and there is no excuse for the way field skills were handled.

I understand that. I'm just saying it seems as though the main issues people cite as being problems are, strictly speaking, superficial. If they cited these issues you mentioned when criticizing the game, that would good.

Maybe I'm out of the loop here. I don't know; I'm operating off of limited experience.

 

[Noipoi]

Technically anything can be pirated/emulated but some are significantly harder than others. It depends on how modern it is and what the original hardware was. (Saturn games are notoriously difficult to emulate due to the funky dual-CPU hardware.)

Personally, I'm anti-pirating/emulating. I'm a small business owner and I'm friends with multiple local game store owners. I don't want to start a debate that will take over the thread, but pirating isn't a crime with no victims. I buy my ****, and when I can't afford what I want, I save up or I decide not to buy it. The idea that "I want to play this game, therefore I should be able to play it even though I can't pay for it" isn't something I can be convinced to agree with.

I agree mostly, if I can i'll buy it myself. I've never pirated before, actually.

I was just thinking, there are so many great games I want to play and I really, really can't afford them all. Considering my options, y'know?

 

[Opossum]

One of his taunts better be-
"Oh right, the poison..."

That's actually his neutral special, which holds the title of the game's longest attack name.
"The Poison, the Poison for Kuzco, the Poison Chosen Specially to Kill Kuzco, Kuzco's Poison" is the full name.

 

[Deleted member]

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Don’t.

Do.

 

[Idon]

Technically anything can be pirated/emulated but some are significantly harder than others. It depends on how modern it is and what the original hardware was. (Saturn games are notoriously difficult to emulate due to the funky dual-CPU hardware.)

Personally, I'm anti-pirating/emulating. I'm a small business owner and I'm friends with multiple local game store owners. I don't want to start a debate that will take over the thread, but pirating isn't a crime with no victims. I buy my ****, and when I can't afford what I want, I save up or I decide not to buy it. The idea that "I want to play this game, therefore I should be able to play it even though I can't pay for it" isn't something I can be convinced to agree with.

Well, I agree, buuuuuut
I don't think any store stocks copies of fan-translated titles of games or titles that are sufficiently "old."

I think you've saved my wallet.

That is, if my potato computer can run it. Which it probably can't.

Well Persona 3 Portable runs on the PSP so unless you have a PC made in the 1980's I think it'll do fine.

 

[ClaTheBae]

What if, we just played other games?
Like there's so many I can live with not playing some because I choose not to pirate.

Should kids/teens not be allowed to play SNES or NES games in 2019 because they don't have hundreds of dollars to spend on older consoles? Obviously purchase a game when you can through the virtual console or some sort of port if it's available, but that isn't always the case. Sometimes, without emulation, there are very little ways to relive older games without doing a lot of saving.

 

[Deleted member]

Do.

Unless you want to take a trip to downtown curiosity of the police, Don't.

 

[Alternis]

What if, we just played other games?
Like there's so many I can live with not playing some because I choose not to pirate.

Where was the nomination for best soundtrack at the game awards?
Cries in Counterattack

Regardless of any complaints one may have about the game, it's soundtrack is GOAT.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Should kids/teens not be allowed to play SNES or NES games in 2019 because they don't have hundreds of dollars to spend on older consoles? Obviously purchase a game when you can through the virtual console or some sort of port if it's available, but that isn't always the case. Sometimes, without emulation, there are very little ways to relive older games without doing a lot of saving.

They don't need to play NES/SNES games. Nobody actually needs to play any games.

I missed out on those consoles but I took the path of saving for/waiting for ports. There's still some games I'd like to get but that's the same thing for modern games. Pirating because it's the easy way to get something just comes across as greedy to me.

 

[Wademan94]

Do.

Not.

 

[Opossum]

For me, I would only pirate/emulate without owning if the game:

1. Was never released in the US, making it impossible for me to have played it otherwise
and
2. Is out of print.

That's just me though.

 

[Deleted member]

For me, I would only pirate/emulate without owning if the game:

1. Was never released in the US, making it impossible for me to have played it otherwise
and
2. Is out of print.

That's just me though.

Same. More so on point 1. Japan seems to have a habit of not releasing great games outside of their country.

 

[ClaTheBae]

They don't need to play NES/SNES games. Nobody actually needs to play any games.

I missed out on those consoles but I took the path of saving for/waiting for ports. There's still some games I'd like to get but that's the same thing for modern games. Pirating because it's the easy way to get something just comes across as greedy to me.

Well yeah no **** no one NEEDS to play a game. Pirating something like a Genesis game that has little to no ports on a modern console is not stealing. Sega would not have made any money if you went and purchased an aftermarket console.

My point here is that if it is completely feasible to purchase now, then don't pirate it, just buy it. But if that is outside the realm of possibility, how would emulating it hurt anyone?

 

[Deleted member]

Ultimate's single player is better than any other single player in Smash.

Someone defend me here.