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[Deleted member]

Poor Cla never got answered. RIP.

I answered.

 

[Deleted member]

But

1. The Omega's don't move or anything from what I know
2. A distracting background isn't random and affects both players equally
3. There's SO much good music being ignored sticking to the same few stages

Finally, on a petty note: if a person can't play Smash properly because the background is too distracting... they might be in the wrong game

distracting backgrounds are ****ing stupid though
a competitive match to figure out who's the best player shouldn't come down to who doesn't get screwed over by a **** backround that's not in anyone's control
literally one of the reasons we don't use ps1 and instead use ps2 is because of the stupid jumbotron in the background
one of the biggest complaints against sm4sh fd was the stupid background, so much so that they toned it down in ultimate
like i agree on the music but it's a very very very tiny issue

 

[Ultomato]

Why superheroes even need powers or cool suits when they can be John Constantine?

Honestly my favourite super-hero-character is

Spoiler: This guy

And those are Just his normal clothes

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I answered.

Pretty sure Opossum meant the person Cla replied to

 

[Deleted member]

distracting backgrounds are ****ing stupid though
a competitive match to figure out who's the best player shouldn't come down to who doesn't get screwed over by a **** backround that's not in anyone's control
literally one of the reasons we don't use ps1 and instead use ps2 is because of the stupid jumbotron in the background
one of the biggest complaints against sm4sh fd was the stupid background
like i agree on the music but it's a very very very tiny issue

how about these people actually git gud instead of making bull**** excuses like "HURR DURR DISTRACTING BACKGROUND"

 

[Deleted member]

Seeing people upset about not hearing music they like on Smash tournaments due to the stage used makes me wish that we could put any song we want on every stage through a playlist.

You put any song you like on it, and you can choose the background music of a match in any stage just by changing the default tracks of the stage to the tracks of the list by pressing a buttom.

Pretty sure Opossum meant the person Cla replied to

Oh, then that’s true.

 

[Deleted member]

how about these people actually git gud instead of making bull**** excuses like "HURR DURR DISTRACTING BACKGROUND"

are you telling the best players in the world to git gud

are you seriously not bull****ting me, like are you being completely serious here, like completely unironic no trolling

 

[Deleted member]

are you telling the best players in the world to git gud

are you seriously not bull****ting me, like are you being completely serious here, like completely unironic no trolling

wait are the best players in the world actually distracted by the backgrounds
****ing lame even I can focus on the match lmao

 

[Pakky]

Spoiler: Reminder

YEp, yep

 

[osby]

how about these people actually git gud instead of making bull**** excuses like "HURR DURR DISTRACTING BACKGROUND"

Tbf, you simply can't see properly in stages like 75m. And some like Umbra Clock Tower really cause framedrops.

 

[Ultomato]

Spoiler: Reminder

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YEp, yep

I keep forgetting Pokémon does that.

 

[Schnee117]

Today's an international holiday

20 year anniversary

 

[Deleted member]

wait are the best players in the world actually distracted by the backgrounds
****ing lame even I can focus on the match lmao

you understand how ****ing good these people are, right
like if you can't understand why a distracting background can disrupt a high level tournament match with thousands of dollars on the line and people who can take stocks if you give them a 3 frame opening, then idk what to tell you man

 

[ColietheGoalie]

distracting backgrounds are ****ing stupid though
a competitive match to figure out who's the best player shouldn't come down to who doesn't get screwed over by a **** backround that's not in anyone's control
literally one of the reasons we don't use ps1 and instead use ps2 is because of the stupid jumbotron in the background
one of the biggest complaints against sm4sh fd was the stupid background, so much so that they toned it down in ultimate
like i agree on the music but it's a very very very tiny issue

For me, something like a jumbotron in the background is a "very very very tiny issue."
Like in the case of these Omega/BF stages, nothing is moving, the stage layout is a standard, there's only two people and there's no items or hazards.
Still the community finds something to complain about? Just comes across as super anal to me, but to each their own.

 

[Deleted member]

wait are the best players in the world actually distracted by the backgrounds
****ing lame even I can focus on the match lmao

Paying focus on a normal match played in your house isn’t the same as paying focus on a closed room full of people watching you while trying to keep yourself on the tournament.

It’s like comparing a person who walks through a bridge with a person who walks through a rope above a lake of fire.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Depending on the background I can understand why. The bright flash with Smash 4’s FD can be pretty bad if you are photo sensitive.

Otherwise most backgrounds don’t bother most people.

 

[Deleted member]

Paying focus on a normal match played in your house isn’t the same as paying focus on a closed room full of people watching you while trying to keep yourself on the tournament.

It’s like comparing a person who walks through a bridge with a person who walks through a rope above a lake of fire.

That's a good point actually

you understand how ****ing good these people are, right
like if you can't understand why a distracting background can disrupt a high level tournament match with thousands of dollars on the line and people who can take stocks if you give them a 3 frame opening, then idk what to tell you man

I get it now

 

[Ultomato]

Paying focus on a normal match played in your house isn’t the same as paying focus on a closed room full of people watching you while trying to keep yourself on the tournament.

It’s like comparing a person who walks through a bridge with a person who walks through a rope above a lake of fire.

One can be done with a marching band following you and the other would be hilarious if done with a marching band following you

 

[Deleted member]

wait are the best players in the world actually distracted by the backgrounds
****ing lame even I can focus on the match lmao

I’ve seen people complain about getting nauseous when playing on Umbra Clock Tower. I mean, which is easier, just not allowing these distracting stages with the same layout or allowing them and leaving some people at a disadvantage for what? More music?

 

[Deleted member]

For me, something like a jumbotron in the background is a "very very very tiny issue."
Like in the case of these Omega/BF stages, nothing is moving, the stage layout is a standard, there's only two people and there's no items or hazards.
Still the community finds something to complain about? Just comes across as super anal to me, but to each their own.

Yes, for YOU
In a match with hundreds of eyes watching you at a tournament, and when you're going up against someone who will literally 0-death you at the slightest opening, it's a waaaay bigger issue then what music is playing at the time (and are you really paying attention to the music when watching a VOD or stream? lmfao)

 

[Cosmic77]

I found this comparison on Twitter. Thought I'd share my thoughts.

Personally, I think neither work as "the new Ridley" or "the new K. Rool".

Ridley was a hot topic for debate over the years, as many people questioned whether or not a character of his size and build could actually work in a game like Smash. Neither Waluigi or Isaac have that same level of questioning. No one is denying that either could work in Smash, and the only reasonable complication unique to only them that they could face is a lack of moveset potential, something Sakurai's demonstrated time and time again that he can overcome if he really wants to.

K. Rool is less of a long shot, but it's still not a solid comparison for either Waluigi or Isaac. Donkey Kong (the franchise) is an extremely iconic property, and many felt as if it was long overdue for a third character. Super Mario is also iconic, but no one is complaining about underrepresentation (if anything, people think it's overrepped). Unless I'm missing another variable here, Waluigi supporters have no other incentive to specifically push for him aside from getting someone they like in Smash. Now Golden Sun is a series that people would love to see get more representation, but it's far from iconic. Unlike K. Rool whose support was far more broad, Isaac supporters are mostly limited to those who are familiar with his series and those who are rooting for another entry. He lacks name recognition, and I feel like that holds him back quite a bit more than K. Rool.

 

[Deleted member]

why don't we just stop talking about this because I really don't want to feel any dumber than I already feel

 

[staindgrey]

Poor Cla never got answered. RIP.

Wait, I thought you were taking a break. You doing okay?

 

[Ultomato]

I think Everyone has made the
"Top level play isn't the same as casual play" argument Several times now.

So let's ask: if you could put any song on any stage, what would you play a Major's finale to?

*Hears radio-tuning sound
"Ah yes, my jam

 

[Deleted member]

Today's an international holiday

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20 year anniversary

when's the movie we've been waiting for 20 years now

 

[Deleted member]

why don't we just stop talking about this because I really don't want to feel any dumber than I already feel

Don’t feel dumb.
It is normal to confuse stuff from time to time, more so for young people like you or myself.

We are still learning, so these small mistakes are just another step we have to take to improve as persons.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I found this comparison on Twitter. Thought I'd share my thoughts.

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Personally, I think neither work as "the new Ridley" or "the new K. Rool".

Ridley was a hot topic for debate over the years, as many people questioned whether or not a character of his size and build could actually work in a game like Smash. Neither Waluigi or Isaac have that same level of questioning. No one is denying that either could work in Smash, and the only reasonable complication unique to only them that they could face is a lack moveset potential, something Sakurai's demonstrated time and time again that he can overcome this if he really wants to.

K. Rool is less of a long shot, but it's still not a solid comparison for either Waluigi or Isaac. Donkey Kong (the franchise) is an extremely iconic property, and many felt as if it was long overdue for a third character. Super Mario is also iconic, but no one is complaining about underrepresentation (if anything, people think it's overrepped). Unless I'm missing another variable here, Waluigi supporters have no other incentive to specifically push for him aside from getting someone they like in Smash. Now Golden Sun is a series that people would love to see get more representation, but it's far from iconic. Unlike K. Rool whose support was far more broad, Isaac supporters are mostly limited to those who are familiar with his series and those who are rooting for another entry. He lacks name recognition, and I feel like that holds him back quite a bit more than K. Rool.

People are running out of hardcore demand characters and thus are willing to oversell them, that's all

 

[Deleted member]

I found this comparison on Twitter. Thought I'd share my thoughts.

View attachment 195983

Personally, I think neither work as "the new Ridley" or "the new K. Rool".

Ridley was a hot topic for debate over the years, as many people questioned whether or not a character of his size and build could actually work in a game like Smash. Neither Waluigi or Isaac have that same level of questioning. No one is denying that either could work in Smash, and the only reasonable complication unique to only them that they could face is a lack moveset potential, something Sakurai's demonstrated time and time again that he can overcome this if he really wants to.

K. Rool is less of a long shot, but it's still not a solid comparison for either Waluigi or Isaac. Donkey Kong (the franchise) is an extremely iconic property, and many felt as if it was long overdue for a third character. Super Mario is also iconic, but no one is complaining about underrepresentation (if anything, people think it's overrepped). Unless I'm missing another variable here, Waluigi supporters have no other incentive to specifically push for him aside from getting someone they like in Smash. Now Golden Sun is a series that people would love to see get more representation, but it's far from iconic. Unlike K. Rool whose support was far more broad, Isaac supporters are mostly limited to those who are familiar with his series and those who are rooting for another entry. He lacks name recognition, and I feel like that holds him back quite a bit more than K. Rool.

It feels like people are trying to force some characters as being the next Ridley. Truth is, I don’t think any character is gonna match the entire Ridley debacle.

 

[Deleted member]

I think Everyone has made the
"Top level play isn't the same as casual play" argument Several times now.

So let's ask: if you could put any song on any stage, what would you play a Major's finale to?

*Hears radio-tuning sound
"Ah yes, my jam

You Will Know Our Names, Valedictory Elegy, Ring a Ding

 

[PsySmasher]

So, apparently the Monster Girl Encyclopedia is a thing.

Jesus Christ.

Um... yeah, it exists. Don't know why you needed to post this though.

I think Everyone has made the
"Top level play isn't the same as casual play" argument Several times now.

So let's ask: if you could put any song on any stage, what would you play a Major's finale to?

*Hears radio-tuning sound
"Ah yes, my jam

Easy...

 

[Deleted member]

I think Everyone has made the
"Top level play isn't the same as casual play" argument Several times now.

So let's ask: if you could put any song on any stage, what would you play a Major's finale to?

*Hears radio-tuning sound
"Ah yes, my jam

Divine Bloodlines, Ultimate's Final Destination Theme, Midna's Lament, Gangplank Galleon

 

[Deleted member]

The next Ridley will be the one who might appear in a new Metroid game.
Being serious, I don’t believe that any character will become the next Ridley in Smash since I don’t read Sakurai’s mind.

 

[staindgrey]

you understand how ****ing good these people are, right
like if you can't understand why a distracting background can disrupt a high level tournament match with thousands of dollars on the line and people who can take stocks if you give them a 3 frame opening, then idk what to tell you man

Down, boy. This argument isn't worth it.

The topic of omega and battlefield forms is an intriguing one but this is going in circles.

 

[Deleted member]

god why is ridley's down smash sO SCARY AGH

...its too big

 

[Deleted member]

I think Everyone has made the
"Top level play isn't the same as casual play" argument Several times now.

So let's ask: if you could put any song on any stage, what would you play a Major's finale to?

*Hears radio-tuning sound
"Ah yes, my jam

Environmental noises of course.

 

[Deleted member]

Down, boy. This argument isn't worth it.

The topic of omega and battlefield forms is an intriguing one but this is going in circles.

dad the argument's BEEN done

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think Everyone has made the
"Top level play isn't the same as casual play" argument Several times now.

So let's ask: if you could put any song on any stage, what would you play a Major's finale to?

*Hears radio-tuning sound
"Ah yes, my jam

Whatever the **** they renamed Heart of Fire to is my pick

It sounds so goddamn climactic just when it starts out and while I prefer Aria's version of the actual Heart of Fire segment due to the chorus, I've already stopped caring due to the beginning of the song and the hype of the match

 

[Deleted member]

Easy...

In my case it would be Crocodile Cacophony.
That one is my favourite of the DKC remixes.

 

[osby]

I think Everyone has made the
"Top level play isn't the same as casual play" argument Several times now.

So let's ask: if you could put any song on any stage, what would you play a Major's finale to?

*Hears radio-tuning sound
"Ah yes, my jam

Enviromental Noises is a must.

EDIT: 'd. Serious answer: Id (Purpose) remix.

 

[Deleted member]

Easy...

the virgin gangplank galleon vs the CHAD SNAKEY CHANTEY

****
is
my
JAM