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[Deleted member]

Then again, Thanos was pretty sexy.

I would hold hands with prune juice man and buy him a sammich.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Did I hear someone talking **** about Generals in Fire Emblem?

The only General I will tolerate **** talk towards is this thread. I say this in jest of course.

the picture isn't loading at all but IF THEY COME CLOSE TO OSWIN THEN THEY CAN REGAIN THE GLORY THEY SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS HAD
EDIT: Ok now it loaded lmao

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Oh, I'm not good at lists. Had to put something out.

Don’t we all suck at that

I guess I’m good there. lol

I mean, I know it’s not the entire game, but playing Heroes for example (don’t @ me) everyone and there grandma has boobs the size of bowling balls, in some cases literally.

Only Camilla and Loki have bowling ball boobies

 

[Deleted member]

Have you even Read my post?

Hehehehehehehhhhhhh....

No, I missed a lotta posts.

 

[Raxxel]

the picture isn't loading at all but IF THEY COME CLOSE TO OSWIN THEN THEY CAN REGAIN THE GLORY THEY SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS HAD

... the gif is literally Oswin performing a critical with a lance. Damn.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Heck, I'd argue Legend of Zelda also has a fair share of pretty high-end fanservice, but it almost never gets the same response as Fire Emblem.

Zelda does have quite a bit of fanservice, I gotta admit, but I never thought of it as "high-end"? I'm just a little confused...

 

[Deleted member]

Zelda does have quite a bit of fanservice, I gotta admit, but I never thought of it as "high-end"? I'm just a little confused...

I think it’s more innuendos. I may be 100 percent wrong though. Not very knowledgable with Zelda.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

More DQB2 shilling

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[KMDP]

Zelda does have quite a bit of fanservice, I gotta admit, but I never thought of it as "high-end"? I'm just a little confused...

Usually the fanservice in Zelda is relegated to small pockets like the Great Fairies or censored out all-together (like the Mermaid in Link's Awakening who lost her bikini top, in the English version she lost her "necklace" instead).

 

[Deleted member]

Zelda does have quite a bit of fanservice, I gotta admit, but I never thought of it as "high-end"? I'm just a little confused...

If we go by FE's standards, Zelda has a lot of characters that are "naked but not really" or feature rather skimpy clothing.

Spoiler: Examples

Also, gotta stress, it isn't me saying the designs are bad at all, I'm just saying that the sexual undertones of them are pretty obvious.

You can argue that the Gerudos are an exception because of their theme, but usually you'd refer to desert prep clothing to cover more of the body to begin with. Y'know, to protect from the sun n all.

Edit: Smashboards refrains from showing some of the renders, but just google princess Ruto and you'll catch my drift.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Anyway to summarize the argument I just had, Generals are up there with Archers as "The absolute ****ing worst class in Fire Emblem". At least archers can sometimes get horses and longbows

 

[Deleted member]

If we go by FE's standards, Zelda has a lot of characters that are "naked but not really" or feature rather skimpy clothing.

Spoiler: Examples

Also, gotta stress, it isn't me saying the designs are bad at all, I'm just saying that the sexual undertones of them are pretty obvious.

You can argue that the Gerudos are an exception because of their theme, but usually you'd refer to desert prep clothing to cover more of the body to begin with. Y'know, to protect from the sun n all.

Edit: Smashboards refrains from showing some of the renders, but just google princess Ruto and you'll catch my drift.

Oh yeah... I forgot about those LOL.

 

[Opossum]

SHISH THE BEST FEELING IN FIRE EMBLEM IS WHEN YOUR ARMY CAN JUST DECIMATE THE OPPOSITION EFFORTLESSLY AND JUST BECAUSE AMELIA CAN BE A PRETTY FAST GENERAL DOESN'T CHANGE HOW GENERALS ARE A BAD CLASS THAT CAN BARELY MOVE

Relevant video complete with a title pun.

 

[KMDP]

Anyway to summarize the argument I just had, Generals are up there with Archers as "The absolute ****ing worst class in Fire Emblem". At least archers can sometimes get horses and longbows

Armour Knights/Generals have a super-situational use (Defend chapters) which is rendered completely useless in games that don't have that type of chapter (Awakening and Birthright).

No wonder they made Generals have stupid animations in Awakening.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Usually the fanservice in Zelda is relegated to small pockets like the Great Fairies or censored out all-together (like the Mermaid in Link's Awakening who lost her bikini top, in the English version she lost her "necklace" instead).

If we go by FE's standards, Zelda has a lot of characters that are "naked but not really" or feature rather skimpy clothing.

Spoiler: Examples

Also, gotta stress, it isn't me saying the designs are bad at all, I'm just saying that the sexual undertones of them are pretty obvious.

You can argue that the Gerudos are an exception because of their theme, but usually you'd refer to desert prep clothing to cover more of the body to begin with. Y'know, to protect from the sun n all.

Edit: Smashboards refrains from showing some of the renders, but just google princess Ruto and you'll catch my drift.

Haha, yeah, sorry about that. I still wouldn't call it too "high-end" or anything, but I see where you're coming from at least.

 

[Ultomato]

Relevant video complete with a title pun.

You get a like Just for that video title

 

[Deleted member]

Anyway to summarize the argument I just had, Generals are up there with Archers as "The absolute ****ing worst class in Fire Emblem". At least archers can sometimes get horses and longbows

Aw damn archers suck? Isn't Claude the archer guy though? Well I'm still choosing him **** it

You probably get fake waifu Morag and pasta headass later on anyways

 

[Deleted member]

I ****ING WISH GENERALS WERE GOOD AGAIN BUT THEIR LOW MOVEMENT IS THE BIGGEST WEAKNESS OUT OF ANY CLASS. ESPECIALLY AS MOST KNIGHTS/GENERALS DON'T GET TO FIGHT MUCH MEANING THEY DON'T GET TO LEVEL UP OR THEIR STATS MAKE THEM MISS TOO OFTEN OR ONLY ALLOW YOU TO HIT FOR A DECENT CHUNK OF DAMAGE A SINGLE TIME. AMELIA'S FAST BUT SHE'S FRAIL, AND GENERALS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FRAIL!

I try looking at the big picture because sometimes there's a reason beyond the people in charge of designs being horny. Then again that's sadly not as common

In what world is Amelia frail?

 

[KMDP]

Relevant video complete with a title pun.

I think a way to improve Generals immensely is to simply scrap the arbitrary "they have less Movement than other units" thing.

It just makes them dead weight in chapters where you need to move, which is most of them.

Aw damn archers suck? Isn't Claude the archer guy though? Well I'm still choosing him **** it

You probably get fake waifu Morag and pasta headass later on anyways

Archers suck in most games because of many reasons which probably wont apply to Claude; assuming Claude is anything like Takumi from a statistical/battle options standpoint.

 

[Deleted member]

Haha, yeah, sorry about that. I still wouldn't call it too "high-end" or anything, but I see where you're coming from at least.

Aye, it doesn't go to Senran Kagura levels, but I was more comparing it to FE and people's reactions to that. Because by that definition it definitely goes far beyond the level of fanservice FE has on offer. Should've really called it "comparatively high-end" instead of just "high-end", so that was my bad.

 

[TheMightyP]

The only General I care about

Edit: Hooray for broken images.

It's General Kenobi btw.

 

[Opossum]

Aw damn archers suck? Isn't Claude the archer guy though? Well I'm still choosing him **** it

You probably get fake waifu Morag and pasta headass later on anyways

In general archers aren't good due to the fact that they usually don't have a 1-2 range option. Most bows are locked to 2 range only, meaning that they can't counterattack a melee enemy on enemy phase.

Certain games manage to avoid this, like Gaiden/SoV, due to 1 range on bows being possible. I'd also argue that Archanea's archers and snipers, particularly Jeorge, are pretty good, though that's mostly due to being good despite his class, not because of it.

 

[Ultomato]

I think a way to improve Generals immensely is to simply scrap the arbitrary "they have less Movement than other units" thing.

It just makes them dead weight in chapters where you need to move, which is most of them.

Archers suck in most games because of many reasons which probably wont apply to Claude; assuming Claude is anything like Takumi from a statistical/battle options standpoint.

Claude is a main character so He'll probably be stupid good

 

[Deleted member]

The only game I'd say Generals are bad are in SoV/Gaiden and FE4 aka the two games where Mov is literally the most important stat.
Games like FE7 always have chokepoints that need to be held though and I can't stress enough how necessary Effie and Benny are for Conquest and how much the Birthright party suffers from not having a proper Knight to tank.

 

[KMDP]

Claude is a main character so He'll probably be stupid good

That's kind of what I was implying.

The thing is, even if Claude isn't good as an Archer, you can probably just reclass him into any non-unique class, so it's a non-issue.

Claude: Teacher, why are you forcing me to study Lances?
Byleth: BECAUSE BOWS ARE BAD, CLAUDE! I OBVIOUSLY CAN'T LEAVE YOU ALONE TO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS!

 

[Opossum]

The only game I'd say Generals are bad are in SoV/Gaiden and FE4 aka the two games where Mov is literally the most important stat.
Games like FE7 always have chokepoints that need to be held though and I can't stress enough how necessary Effie and Benny are for Conquest and how much the Birthright party suffers from not having a proper Knight to tank.

Awakening Generals are among the worst in the series and they don't even get a mention smh.

 

[Ultomato]

Awakening Generals are among the worst in the series and they don't even get a mention smh.

What's so bad about them? One is even invisible!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Aw damn archers suck? Isn't Claude the archer guy though? Well I'm still choosing him **** it

You probably get fake waifu Morag and pasta headass later on anyways

They've been getting better at balancing them but archers are mostly limited to a minimum of 2 spaces to attack. Not "Can hit from up to 2 spaces" like magic or literally every other ranged weapon, but "Literally cannot attack unless their 2 spaces away". There are exceptions and you can shield them with other units, but most archers generally focus on doing chip damage not to mention they're rather frail, so that means you have a unit who will need to be protected or else they pretty much get one-shot by anything and they can only do chip damage. Neimi from Sacred Stones is my exception to this because she builds supports with Cold very quickly and gets a horse and sword as a Ranger, and by the time she's at that point she starts hitting hard. We'll have to see how Three Houses handles them but it seems mini bows are obtainable fairly early, meaning they can attack from a single space with that. Takumi is objectively the best archer unit from the franchise as he doesn't get restricted by the 2 space minimum due to his skills iirc. Plus he's one of the royal children, and those characters are made to be strong from the get go

In what world is Amelia frail?

SHE'S A GENERAL WHO CAN'T TANK AS WELL AS GENERALS SHOULD

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Aw damn archers suck? Isn't Claude the archer guy though? Well I'm still choosing him **** it

idk man, Niles was one hell of a good archer

 

[Deleted member]

More DQB2 shilling

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Gosh, I want to get it already.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

More DQB2 shilling

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When the hell is this getting international releases? My inner architect is going crazy over this.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Gosh, I want to get it already.

this dude even made realistic Street lights

「信号機のある街」#DQB2 #ドラゴンクエストビルダーズ2 #ドラクエビルダーズ2 #ビルダーズ2#PS4sharehttps://t.co/R1B8eo3fys pic.twitter.com/73KAEx8pzq

— 𝙅𝙖𝙣𝙜𝙧𝙤𝙤𝙫𝙚 (@Jangroovin) February 16, 2019

When the hell is this getting international releases? My inner architect is going crazy over this.

comes out in the west in July 12th

 

[KMDP]

They've been getting better at balancing them but archers are mostly limited to a minimum of 2 spaces to attack. Not "Can hit from up to 2 spaces" like magic or literally every other ranged weapon, but "Literally cannot attack unless their 2 spaces away". There are exceptions and you can shield them with other units, but most archers generally focus on doing chip damage not to mention they're rather frail, so that means you have a unit who will need to be protected or else they pretty much get one-shot by anything and they can only do chip damage. Neimi from Sacred Stones is my exception to this because she builds supports with Cold very quickly and gets a horse and sword as a Ranger, and by the time she's at that point she starts hitting hard. We'll have to see how Three Houses handles them but it seems mini bows are obtainable fairly early, meaning they can attack from a single space with that. Takumi is objectively the best archer unit from the franchise as he doesn't get restricted by the 2 space minimum due to his skills iirc. Plus he's one of the royal children, and those characters are made to be strong from the get go

SHE'S A GENERAL WHO CAN'T TANK AS WELL AS GENERALS SHOULD

Takumi also has the niche of being the only foot unit to be totally unencumbered by terrain due to his weapon's ability, this doesn't necessarily make him better or worse (well, strictly speaking it only makes him better), but it is something worth noting.

 

[Deleted member]

When the hell is this getting international releases? My inner architect is going crazy over this.

If I’m not mistaken, this summer.

this dude even made realistic Street lights

「信号機のある街」#DQB2 #ドラゴンクエストビルダーズ2 #ドラクエビルダーズ2 #ビルダーズ2#PS4sharehttps://t.co/R1B8eo3fys pic.twitter.com/73KAEx8pzq

— 𝙅𝙖𝙣𝙜𝙧𝙤𝙤𝙫𝙚 (@Jangroovin) February 16, 2019

comes out in the west in July 12th

I would love to build DK Island when I get the game.

 

[Deleted member]

posted too fast.

 

[Ultomato]

posted too fast.

Fastest post in the west

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

城下町が一通り出来たので、からっぽ島をアップしました！
投稿者ID: cruf9LrhzX
是非遊びに来てください～！#DQB2 #ドラクエビルダーズ2 pic.twitter.com/FavIqYA7aT

— たゆ (@natsutayu_tayu) February 14, 2019

Bruuuhh

 

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They've been getting better at balancing them but archers are mostly limited to a minimum of 2 spaces to attack. Not "Can hit from up to 2 spaces" like magic or literally every other ranged weapon, but "Literally cannot attack unless their 2 spaces away". There are exceptions and you can shield them with other units, but most archers generally focus on doing chip damage not to mention they're rather frail, so that means you have a unit who will need to be protected or else they pretty much get one-shot by anything and they can only do chip damage. Neimi from Sacred Stones is my exception to this because she builds supports with Cold very quickly and gets a horse and sword as a Ranger, and by the time she's at that point she starts hitting hard. We'll have to see how Three Houses handles them but it seems mini bows are obtainable fairly early, meaning they can attack from a single space with that. Takumi is objectively the best archer unit from the franchise as he doesn't get restricted by the 2 space minimum due to his skills iirc. Plus he's one of the royal children, and those characters are made to be strong from the get go

I think one of my favorite things to do in the original Famicom game is to have Merric/Linde fight archers in the Arena. Because of how the game is programmed, all Arena battles are treated as 1 space apart so you can get free Exp/Money. lol

Takumi is definitely the best, though I would also like to give a shout out to Astrid in PoR (Paragon is a broken skill).

 

[Deleted member]

城下町が一通り出来たので、からっぽ島をアップしました！
投稿者ID: cruf9LrhzX
是非遊びに来てください～！#DQB2 #ドラクエビルダーズ2 pic.twitter.com/FavIqYA7aT

— たゆ (@natsutayu_tayu) February 14, 2019

Bruuuhh

I really want to see the pictures...
But for some reason they don’t load even when I open Twitter to check the tweet (but I will edit this post when I get to see them, of course).

Edit: I can see them at last. The village shown on them looks dope as hell.

 

[KingofKoopas]

I heard talk about fanservice in Zelda.. Anyone remember how in Ocarina of Time when you beat Ganondorf you actually had beat him so hard he coughs up a ton of blood.. or in Wind Waker how Link planted a sword in his skull basically making the end of the final boss a Brutal Fatality that if it were to show even a drop would bump the ESRB Rating up past T straight to an M?