Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds

[Minato]

Minato, good games. I am terrible at fighting Zero. You definitely shouldn't have thrown out that Sentinel assist as often as you did, though, because X-23 punished it almost every time. Dark Phoenix saved me in every game I won.

GGs. Yeah, I call Sent drones too much and I should call it less due to his low health.
I can't win against Dark Phoenix unless I get lucky lol. And thanks for the matches, I needed to get used to facing X-23. I didn't know how to deal with her attacks back at my first tourney, so this helped.

 

[ETWIST51294]

Deal with it since every character in this game can do that.

edit: GODDAMMIT GATES MUTHER **** ***** NINJA ******

 

[ss118]

Probably neither. Art doesn't really know what he's talking about.

That's why I come here and ask.

Glad to see you haven't changed much btw. <3

Also is that a list of rushdown characters or what you consider viable characters? I'd like to say the former, but you'll probably just say they're the same thing.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

Spidey isn't a rushdown? I rush w/ him all the time w/o any faults.

 

[Minato]

more specifically, an anki-Hou H followed by senpu bu M in gold armor as DP is rising, and DP gets hit before X factor can start, which allows you to combo into Senpu bu M into air heavy into launcher into stuff into special into OTG super X factor OTG super, guaranteed dead DP when timed right at the start every single time. the 2nd OTG super depends on your timing, you only need it when you were too early with the senpu bu.

EDIT: possibly the ONLY thing hsien ko is good for aside from assist.

Wait, can't Dark Phoenix just block the Anki-Hou after transforming?

 

[Savon]

Good games, Lombardi. You're the only good Viper player I've ever come across.

What did he do so I can adapt that to mine?

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

Combos my friend, combos...

And some reads...

 

[Gates]

GODDAMMIT GATES MUTHER **** ***** NINJA ******

Also is that a list of rushdown characters or what you consider viable characters? I'd like to say the former, but you'll probably just say they're the same thing.

All of them are viable rushdown characters. There are other characters that I think are viable that aren't rushdown-oriented (such as Dormammu, Morrigan, etc.). Some of them are better than others.

Spidey isn't a rushdown? I rush w/ him all the time w/o any faults.

I forgot about him. Fixed.

 

[Pitzer]

Here's how you deal with Dark Phoenix as Zero.

Does she have X factor?
- Yes
- is it a level 3?
- Yes
- Do you have an X- factor?
- No,
- FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
- How many bars does she have?
- 1, Dodge this Dodge this Dodge this.
- 2, Dodge this, Burn into Flames DIE
- 3, Dodge this, teleport, Combo, DIE
- 4, Dodge this, Dodge this, Dodge this, Teleport, Healing Field, DIE.
- 5, LOL GG
If yes, How many bars do you have?
If the answer is 1-2. 214H-H, 214H-H, 214H-H.
Did any of those hit?
- Yes? Combo her.
- No? SJ. Alot
Did she die?
Yes - Sucess
No - 214L, 214M, S.
Did she teleport behind you?
Yes - Air grab.
No - Keep SJ.
Is She doing her super?
How many bars so you have?
3?
GENMU ZERO.
Did she die?
Yes - Sucess.
No - Pause game punch the player in the face and leave.

 

[Gates]

tl;dr

Go into paint and make a flowchart of it.

Also, the final step should be a picture of Noel Brown.

 

[Pitzer]

tl;dr

Go into paint and make a flowchart of it.

Im not creative enough to do so. Plus it's not as simple as the Tager or ken one's.

 

[Serris]

What did he do so I can adapt that to mine?

I don't remember whether or not Viper has a double jump, but he kept me suspended up in the air while I kept taking hits. It was pretty effective. Killed Phoenix off once or twice, if I recall correctly.

 

[ETWIST51294]

Viper has a double jump.

 

[Pitzer]

She can 8 way air dash...


I'll just write down


Double jump Character:
Arthur
C.Viper
Dante
Deadpool
Iron man
Sentinel
Trish

Triple Jumps:
Chun li
Viewtiful Joe

Wall Jump:
Chun-li
Deadpool
Felicia (after wall cling)
She Hulk
Spider-Man
Wolverine
X-23

8 Way Airdashing:
C.Viper
Dr. Doom
Dormammu
Iron Man
Magento
MODOK
Phoenix
Storm
Thor
Trish

6 Way Grapple Hook:
Spencer

Up-forward airdash:
Super Skrull

4-way Web glide:
Spider-man

Forward or Backward Airdash:
Dante
Hsien-Ko
Morrigan (hold direction to airdash longer)
Tron
Zero

Parabolic Upward and Downward dash:
Morrigan

3- way forward airdash
Amaterasu

2x Forward airdash:
Chun Li

2x forward or backward airdash:
Viewtiful Joe

 

[KoJ]

All the Dooms online just spam plasma beam and hidden missiles, plus using his assist over and over. It's so stupid. I mean, is it too hard to try and actually learn the character? Doom is awesome at taking people by surprise with his mobility, he has a vicious loop, and yet they seem to think he works best as a stationary turret. It makes me want to just Hard Kick them in the balls.

Oh wait, lol, I forgot, online play.

 

[o-Serin-o]

For the record, you're typing it, not writing? :x

 

[KoJ]

Spider-Man also has his ridiculously long single airdash straight forward.

 

[Pitzer]

All the Dooms online just spam plasma beam and hidden missiles, plus using his assist over and over. It's so stupid. I mean, is it too hard to try and actually learn the character? Doom is awesome at taking people by surprise with his mobility, he has a vicious loop, and yet they seem to think he works best as a stationary turret. It makes me want to just Hard Kick them in the balls.

Oh wait, lol, I forgot, online play.

I just snap him in and get it over with. It's pretty much the same as akuma's using his tatsu since it has SO MUCH PRIORITY

 

[Savon]

An Akuma once did a tatsu assist RIGHT through a purification tower. I raged harder than when Serris punished my chaotic flame with Phoenix Rage on reaction

 

[KoJ]

I just snap him in and get it over with. It's pretty much the same as akuma's using his tatsu since it has SO MUCH PRIORITY

Yeah, I pretty much do the same thing about Doom (Akuma's Tatsu for some odd reason hasn't troubled me that much; I don't think I've seen too many Akuma players online), since beam crossups are nasty. As soon as you snap him out, though, the opponent often freaks out and begins trying to do stupid things like throwing out close range plasma beams, ending air combos in neutral H, or randomly using out his Electric Cage when you're above his head.

My usual response is to grind him into the floor with my own Doom. "Muahahaha, Child's play."

Also, I HATE Ryu's Shinku Hadouken. Having to deal with Level 3 X Factor+Aimable Beam Supers is some ridiculous chip, and a lot of teams don't use any supers until Ryu is the only one left. It's usually not enough to actually kill me, but it wears out my patience pretty fast.

 

[Pitzer]

I legitly raged when Akuma's tatsu Beat Chris's Magnum shot.

 

[choknater]

dormammu is so ugly! :D

 

[Pitzer]

But, Dormommy is da cutest person ever.

Who's on your team KoJ?

 

[KoJ]

Spidey, Doom, and Dormammu typically. I've been experimenting with Spencer as a Dormammu replacement, and as soon as I can get the Ultimate Web reset down, I'm probably going to replace Doom or Dormy with Deadpool (For some reason, I keep flubbing it in actual matches).

Also, I really want to use Hsien-Ko, but I keep failing miserably, and she doesn't really fit on the team that well.

I legitly raged when Akuma's tatsu Beat Chris's Magnum shot.

Okay, that is just ridiculous.

 

[Pikaville]

H Tatsu beats like.....everything.

Also his shoryuken Hyper beats tons of stuff up close, including other hypers.

 

[_Dice]

I guess Orbital Grudge might work for extending combos, but it really just kinda seems like a worse version of Akuma's Tatsumaki (which I believe has invincibility wheras Skrull's doesn't).

Skrull has a larger area with orbital than akuma does, as well as akuma NOT havign invincibility, though his foot breaks projectiles (like dormammu medium).

skrulls does much more damage, and He works so much better with other supers than akuma does, because of inferno. and he is a better character on point than akuma.


Fun fact: Akuma's tatsu beats low and medium projectiles but only when his foot is touching them.

 

[Pitzer]

Wait Since spidey's Maximum Spider has an untechable knockdown can't you Dhc to stalking fire xD. Then use hidden missle assist while you build up creation and destruction points

 

[Pikaville]

Orbital grudge does more damage than Tatsu?!

I don't really like Doom missile assist because I find it breaks combos rather than help them.

Although clockwork has gotten the timing down to make them combo it seems.

I just find plasma beam better, especially if I have Sent on point.

H>cr.H(with doom plasma assist)into fly or wavedash then whatever.

The doom laser gives you time to get in after your own lasers.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Skrull has a larger area with orbital than akuma does, as well as akuma NOT havign invincibility, though his foot breaks projectiles (like dormammu medium).

skrulls does much more damage, and He works so much better with other supers than akuma does, because of inferno. and he is a better character on point than akuma.


Fun fact: Akuma's tatsu beats low and medium projectiles but only when his foot is touching them.

I'll just break this down bit-by-bit since I don't really have the time to slice it up in neat little quote boxes.

1) By the time Skrull lays the Orbital Smackdown on somebody's roody-poo candy ***, they could have teched out of the combo or have done something to get the hell away. It's wayyyyyyyyyyyy too slow, even to extend combos.

2) I will agree with the fact that Skrull does a lot of damage. I will also agree with the fact that his supers are pretty good (you forgot to mention how safe Skrull Torch is, even when it's blocked. It's very safe to DHC into and from as well). I don't agree with the fact that he's a better character on point than Akuma. Skrull's command grab and OTG shenanigans (METEOR DROP IS AMAZING) are good, but Akuma's cross-up and reset shenanigans are even better.

3) That is actually really neat to know.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Pitzer]

Well In terms of damage output Akuma exceeds on it. Super Skrull would be better if he could XFC his supers. Imagine Inferno XFC inferno would kill the entire cast. In one combo

 

[Matador]

GGs Savon and Lombardi. Wish you coulda stayed a bit longer to see this guy that came in a bit later.

As soon as Savon left, the best Thor/Captain America I've ever fought joined the room and beat me senseless.

 

[Pitzer]

Best Thor? Imma need to play you then Matador

 

[Matador]

Lol, he was pretty amazing Pitzer.

But yea, we need to play, lmao. Neither of us goes to **** though.

 

[Pitzer]

Yeah, plus you use ps3 and Im a 360 person

 

[Serris]

I really wish Capcom would redesign the netcode so we could have spectator mode and less frequent disconnects when trying to find a match through the menu.

 

[Pitzer]

Got a Tourney Tomorrow going Zero, Chris, Dante, Sent, Wesker, Thor and Felicia. Wish me luck

 

[Savon]

If there was spectator I could get so much better at this game through getting advice from people watching me play. They have no valid excuse for any of this. Certain things in this day and age should be a given for games. I know very few multiplayer games that DON'T have spectator.

 

[ss118]

Good luck. =)

FIRE IN THE HOLE

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

Tasky/MILF/Amazin' Spidey does really well I guess.

Been workin' w/ Spencer/Sentinel/Storm lately and it works well too.

Which team do you guys think is more 'stable'?

 

[ss118]

Tasky/MILF/Amazin' Spidey does really well I guess.

Been workin' w/ Spencer/Sentinel/Storm lately and it works well too.

Which team do you guys think is more 'stable'?

MILF?

This issue is you have Spidey as a character on one team. He's not bad but I've seen a total of one match of him in tournament play so idk he seems more iffy to me.

The other one has Spencer. Storm. SENTINEL! Which one do you think will probably end up being more stable?

Of course I mad suck so idk.