Twisted Fate Mafia [D3 BEGINS, DEADLINE: 3/8 at 11:59 PM EST]

[Dastrn]

#HBC | Red Ryu Where is your vote sitting right now? Do you have a preference between J and Gheb?

Who are you willing to follow if you don't have time to drive right now?

 

[Dastrn]

I'm willing to work hard on this today. We just need people willing to read, chime in, and vote for a target that is a reasonable target.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote

I'm not even confident about lynching J, I'm just saying that he's probably the best lynch between him Spak and myself. I'd rather lynch somebody like TSYK, Ryu and Corps ...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unvote

I'm not even confident about lynching J, I'm just saying that he's probably the best lynch between him Spak and myself. I'd rather lynch somebody like TSYK, Ryu and Corps ...

If you pushed for a "bad player lynch" day 1 I would have been more for it.

Only person on your list I would even consider is TSYK because like Ryker I can't nail down his alignment.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

#HBC | Red Ryu Where is your vote sitting right now? Do you have a preference between J and Gheb?

Who are you willing to follow if you don't have time to drive right now?

Would rather lunch J to be quite frank. Why do you prefer Gheb?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: J

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

In addition to Gheb's list. I have no idea why Corp's is on there.

 

[Dastrn]

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[Spak]

Would rather lunch J to be quite frank. Why do you prefer Gheb?

Aside from the Ryker vote, what do you not like about J's slot? Also, why do you not like J's early Ryker vote? It looked like he was just trying to pressure Ryker and get the phase started.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Getting you guys one last votecount. Going to work from 4-10, will be back before deadline.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Votecount 2.4

1. #HBC | Ryker: J
2. Corps Phoenix: Spak > Maven
3. Xatres: Ryker > Gheb
4. Maven89: Gheb
5. ASC | Red Ryu: Spak > J
6. Gheb_01: Ryker >
7. Spak: Xatres > Ryker >
8. #HBC | J: Ryker
9. ThatSmasherYouKnow: Gheb >
10. Dastrn: Ryker > Gheb

Not voting: Gheb, TSYK, Spak

Count
Gheb (3): Maven, Dastrn, Xatres
J (2): Ryker, Ruy
Ryker (1): J
Maven (1): Corps

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is 2/28 at 11:59 PM EST.​

 

[Spak]

Votecount 2.4

1. #HBC | Ryker: J
2. Corps Phoenix: Spak > Maven
3. Xatres: Ryker > Gheb
4. Maven89: Gheb
5. ASC | Red Ryu: Spak > J
6. Gheb_01: Ryker >
7. Spak: Xatres > Ryker >
8. #HBC | J: Ryker
9. ThatSmasherYouKnow: Gheb >
10. Dastrn: Ryker > Gheb

Not voting: Gheb, TSYK, Spak

Count
Gheb (3): Maven, Dastrn, Xatres
J (2): Ryker, Ruy
Ryker (1): J
Maven (1): Corps

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is 2/28 at 11:59 PM EST.​

TSYK voted Gheb in #808

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vote J

For self-preservation purposes. Would rather lynch a different slot but beggars can't be choosers.

 

[Dastrn]

So that makes 4 for Gheb and 3 for J.

Gheb is L-2 right now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: J

Aside from the Ryker vote, what do you not like about J's slot? Also, why do you not like J's early Ryker vote? It looked like he was just trying to pressure Ryker and get the phase started.

I don't think J's start of day vote was pressure. That was him thinking the slot was scum.

Even further when I am pretty damn sure at this point Ryker is town I do not like how J ended D1.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm willing to work hard on this today. We just need people willing to read, chime in, and vote for a target that is a reasonable target.

I'll switch to Gheb if need be but I would prefer J right now.

I get what Gheb is saying at this juncture, some slot(s) mostly just TSYK are slots that will be hard to read later on along with slots like mine he hates for not doing much.

I admit day 2 play is worse than day 1 for me for activity.

 

[Dastrn]

Vote: J



I don't think J's start of day vote was pressure. That was him thinking the slot was scum.

Even further when I am pretty damn sure at this point Ryker is town I do not like how J ended D1.

WHOA

RED FLAG HERE

If you believe J thought the slot was scum, then you are saying you believe J is town. But if you believe he is town, you shouldn't be voting for him.

This is a huge contradiction.

RR I believe you are scum. I think it's likely that Gheb is your partner.

 

[Corps phoenix]

Not voting J and don't really want to vote Gheb either because of the reasons I stated already. Tired of exasperating different alternatives just for people to end up a situation where they can half-commit to some blind wagon being imposed just because deadline is coming. This is a serious problem and I will not be apart of it.

 

[Dastrn]

Corps phoenix Who do you think we should lynch, then? Make a suggestion.

 

[Dastrn]

What do you think of RR's scumslip just now?

 

[Corps phoenix]

Maven. I've said it many many times and my vote is there for a reason. The only thing I would expect is that if we lynch Gheb and he flips scum is that I was wrong, but I'm more willing to take a chance on my logic instead of just what's going on right now. Don't you agree that they're TvS?

 

[Corps phoenix]

WHOA

RED FLAG HERE

If you believe J thought the slot was scum, then you are saying you believe J is town. But if you believe he is town, you shouldn't be voting for him.

This is a huge contradiction.

RR I believe you are scum. I think it's likely that Gheb is your partner.

I think Red Ryu is just bad with words.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

RR I believe you are scum. I think it's likely that Gheb is your partner.

I've suggested his lynch multiple times toDay

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

WHOA

RED FLAG HERE

If you believe J thought the slot was scum, then you are saying you believe J is town. But if you believe he is town, you shouldn't be voting for him.

This is a huge contradiction.

RR I believe you are scum. I think it's likely that Gheb is your partner.

Bad wording on my part.

Ment in context of J being scum to vote on the front of Ryker being scum.

 

[Corps phoenix]

Last post I make about the game but my I am sure dissapointed we ended up in the same situation of last day and how we're gonna learn nothing out of it unless Gheb or J flips scum, otherwise it will just turn into people goading each other about who was right and wrong. Not productive at all and the problem I am seeing right now is that everyone is looking at people's play from a perspective of attitude and behavior and not about what they say. I see some people town-reading Xatres and I'm flabbergasted about it given that I think that his push on Gheb was a wash yet everyone is so willing to conform to it because he put the effort into typing something like that, which he could very well do as scum. Unless I am missing some significant aspect of Xatres' that makes him town for writing a wall and showing effort I see no valid reason to town-read him and the whole data argument he had with Gheb was especially striking too, striking in the sense it seemed like ********.

 

[Corps phoenix]

Can't say bollock s? I thought America was land of the free?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Is there like no way to last-minute body TSYK out of here? The whole fixation towards lynching somebody out of the Spak/J/Gheb pool seems increasingly random and pointless to me.

Can't say bollock s? I thought America was land of the free?

I had to censor dodge it earler :/

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Last post I make about the game but my I am sure dissapointed we ended up in the same situation of last day and how we're gonna learn nothing out of it unless Gheb or J flips scum, otherwise it will just turn into people goading each other about who was right and wrong. Not productive at all and the problem I am seeing right now is that everyone is looking at people's play from a perspective of attitude and behavior and not about what they say. I see some people town-reading Xatres and I'm flabbergasted about it given that I think that his push on Gheb was a wash yet everyone is so willing to conform to it because he put the effort into typing something like that, which he could very well do as scum. Unless I am missing some significant aspect of Xatres' that makes him town for writing a wall and showing effort I see no valid reason to town-read him and the whole data argument he had with Gheb was especially striking too, striking in the sense it seemed like ********.

Disagree both J and Gheb teach us stuff.

 

[Corps phoenix]

I'm fine with a TSYK body, but only if we learn from it this time.

 

[Corps phoenix]

Disagree both J and Gheb teach us stuff.

What stuff? Tell me.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Disagree both J and Gheb teach us stuff.

Go ahead and point out these things that a town!Gheb flip will "teach" you.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What stuff? Tell me.

I learn more on the Dastrn/Xatres on a gheb flip along with how a lot of slots interacted with him.

J teaches me about Ryker, pretty sure I am not wrong on this angle though with Ryker being town. Along with other slots hesitant on this wagon. I learn more from Gheb than J though.

 

[Corps phoenix]

You think Dastrn/Xatres are working together? Why not say that earlier instead of now?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You think Dastrn/Xatres are working together? Why not say that earlier instead of now?

Either as town or scum, leaning more so on town right now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You think Dastrn/Xatres are working together? Why not say that earlier instead of now?

Additionally I didn't think the idea made sense til recent posts to where I do this Dastrn in ways has been quick to jump on the idea of people being scum, with Xatres being possible support for him for thread control.

Is he scum? Probably not but something I thought about.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Go ahead and point out these things that a town!Gheb flip will "teach" you.

I know more about slots that pushed on you and even further it would show the most for Dastrn and Xatres. I know more about slots that didn't go your direction either. Ryker in particular wavered on you but I get a stronger idea of where he might be head wise. I do not think he is scum right now and that might make it better for me to read into.

Spak I'm not sure is really scum like some have suggested.

Maven scum I am open to a lot more than most slots but having a solid reasoning for that is something I would need to go back and look how he interacted with Corps, because how he did that looked really really grimy to me while also his directions.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm fine with a TSYK body, but only if we learn from it this time.

I am still open to this as an alternative but I would really rather get J, or even Gheb.

 

[Dastrn]

I've suggested his lynch multiple times toDay

You've included him in the list of inactive players. There's a difference. You've never campaigned specifically for him. You just didn't blatantly leave his name out of the inactives, which would have been quite telling if you flipped scum.

Bad wording on my part.

Ment in context of J being scum to vote on the front of Ryker being scum.

I still don't understand. Can you pretend I'm dumb and explain it a little better? With careful sentence structure. I swear I'm not picking on you. I just want to know if I can reinterpret it as poor wording rather than a scumslip.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You've included him in the list of inactive players. There's a difference. You've never campaigned specifically for him. You just didn't blatantly leave his name out of the inactives, which would have been quite telling if you flipped scum.


I still don't understand. Can you pretend I'm dumb and explain it a little better? With careful sentence structure. I swear I'm not picking on you. I just want to know if I can reinterpret it as poor wording rather than a scumslip.

I meant in the sense that J is scum and tried to post a reason to vote Ryker and get a wagon started on him to appear as a scum read from J not pressure.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I honestly agree with most of what Ryu and Corps are posting right now. Doesn't really make things easier for me but I wanna say I lean town on both of them at the moment.