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Totally Normal Mafia [Game Over, Town and Independent Win]

#HBC | Mac

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Funny joke right?

Ok now seriously, I read the thread. 2 weeks per day phase? does that mean that today is the deadline? That's not good.

Extension plox?

It's late and I'm going to bed so imma just keep this short.

Umm, I don't know, I can't make up for Stingers behavior or explain it. And it looks like good amount of people are favoring a lynch of me. How do you guys want me to prove that I am town? [I actually want people to answer this]

Also, Marshys point about everyone casting suspicion on me is very valid!

And also, people who are arguing that lynching Stingers was alright because of his anti town behavior leads you to believe that he won't take the game seriously, or make good use of any powers given to him, how do you feel now that he has been replaced?

uudgpqiw, that's it I guess. People ask me questions and stuff.
 

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You're supposed to make some sort of defense for yourself. You have had decidedly anti-town play since the beginning. All of a sudden you just say town sucks ask me questions.

GG I'm still ****ing comfortable with my vote.
 

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Saying town sucks was a joke, note the first sentence of my last post. Clearly i was kidding and I am not actually going to folow in the footsteps of Stingers. I thought you had a sense of humor?

I don't really know what you guys want me to do. Stingers brought up a good point, anti-town and scummy are too very different things. Just because his play was deemed anti-town doesn't make him scum or indy, please answer my question too.

And also, people who are arguing that lynching Stingers was alright because of his anti town behavior leads you to believe that he won't take the game seriously, or make good use of any powers given to him, how do you feel now that he has been replaced?
 

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Macman

you have 11 hours or less to prove you're not worth a lynch

stingers has been acting pretty funny and suspicious.

joking is not a good moment right now.

and to answer your question, we're really unsure. True, you may be more co-operative, but that won't excuse you from a possible lynch canidate. >_>

If you want a question or two, then fine, I'll give them to you. Who else have you found to be suspicious of and why we shouldn't lynch you? Remember, you got three votes on you so far

Make your answer count.
 

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The most likely scenario is that the mafia got excited over their first mislynch and joined the stingers hate bandwagon, and since nearly every player has said so, they've essentially given us a confirmed Townie. Of course, this'll need to be verified, but it's dumb play on Town's part to lynch him toDay when we just got a replacement. The main argument for him was his anti-Town play (exaggerated big time when you take into account that he was used to AIM mafia), but if we just got a different player with a different personality, why judge him now? Macman may end up being useful and you'll change your mind later.

And isn't it obvious? Do you all honestly believe that you guys pinned an independent/mafia so early Day 1? Keeping Macman around presumably forces mafia to deal with a confirmed Townie or keep him around and give us all 1 less suspect to be worried about. It seems silly to damn Macman for stingers' behavior.

Though, I'm curious to see what Macman thinks about what's gone on other than defending himself. Rockin's questions were good.
 

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Alright, so I think the case against Stingers is very weak.

First off, I do not think Stinger s is a bad player by any stretch of the imagination. He has been fairly unhelpful , yes but now that someone a little more helpful [I would hope] has taken over his role, you have no argument to lynch because of that.

I have -scum- on the bottom of my shoes >____>
This is why I don’t think he’s that bad of player. I think that he was breadcrumbing his role in this post. Obviously I am not going to explain how, since I would rather keep my role secret, but I am just pointing this out so that you know for sure that the possibility of me fakeclaiming a role is heavily limited and I would have had to already thought up a fake role for me to make such an assertion, if I was scum.

stingers and egruntz sorta got into a bit during the joke vote phase. Dunno if it's them being new to SWF mafia or something else.

Not a lot to go on. Just something to consider.
Jungle do you actually think there was something in the conversation between Egruntz and Stingers, or are you just grasping for straws here?
Looks like he was grasping for straws to me. Their interaction didn’t seem very notable at all.

But of course stingers goes on to say that he actually thinks egrunts is scum, giving Jungle the chance to ignore KevinM’s question. KevinM asks stingers why he thinks that, and guess what? He actually backs up his claim. [http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7763423&postcount=113]

Marshy than agrees with him in the next post and votes Egrunts without going further into the topic.
I would agree with an egruntz lynch to some extent, but I REALLY don't like the sound of that post by Marshy.
What mentosman? You would agree with his lynch this early in the day simply because one person casted suspicion on him[and a not very strong one]. Also, why did you feel the need to say that you would?

Also, what did you mean by, to a certain extent?

@Marshy: What's up with not elaborating on the thoughts or posting anything beyond "per stingers' reasoning? You know as well as anyone making a vote without posting your own thoughts on the person doesn't look good. Also, the reasoning given for an egruntz lynch by stingers fails. Counter-voting during the joke vote stage is scummy now? The voting of no lynch wasn't really anything big... We pointed out that there are advantages to lynching, and that it was too early in the day to decide which was more advantageous, and he unvoted. Not something that can be let slide entirely, but not something major. Similarly, the speculating mafia numbers, which I called out right away, was nothing harmful, and another thing that a new player would think of as useful.

So I guess what I'm trying to get at here Marshy, is I know you're a good player. Not only was the reasoning given for voting egruntz weak, but you didn't bother to elaborate at all on the points Stingers gave. As I said, he's on my radar, but for a player who knows what they're doing like you, that whole vote and post throws lights up across the board. Until you elaborate on your vote and give some more solid reasoning to vote him, my vote on you sticks.
And then you pretty much say that the reasoning against Egruntz is weak. Then why the **** would you agree with an Egruntz lynch? This seems like a clear contradiction. It doesn’t look like you would be down for his lynch at all, instead it seems like you had a different reason for saying that you would.

Stingers than agrees with Mentos about Marshy, [which I do as well] but that he wants to focus on Egruntz.

Stingers, I don't see why you're focused on egruntz right now. One of your reasons for that vote is complete crap(countervoting in the joke vote phase is most certainly NOT a scummy behavior, in fact it is quite common as they're, ya know, jokes). The other two are iffy at best to cause you to focus on someone. The no lynch thing isn't anything big(Several games lately have had someone vote no lynch during day 1 and remove it later), as I said in my post to Marshy it is not something to entirely throw out, but not something to cause me to put focus on someone. And the speculating on how many mafia? Well, I did that during my first game. I've seen people do it in ALMOST every game I've played here. Once again, nothing to entirely forget, but nothing that should cause you to focus on him.

If you can give me one solid reason to be focusing on egruntz, I may be on your side. Right now you have given weak at best reasoning, and then looked past something far more scummy to focus on the person that reasoning was on. This is early d1, things like Marshy's post are things to jump on and question, not little things like you pointed out about egruntz that aren't inherently scummy.
Apparently stingers’s argument went from ‘not very strong’ to ‘complete crap’. But, I thought you would be down for a Egruntz lynch to a certain extent? I guess you were lying when you said that, seeing as how everything you said after that seems to contradict that thought.

After you make that post, Stingers seems to see your reasoning, which is somewhat valid, and votes Marshigo. Note this isn’t very surprising seeing as how he said earlier that what marshy did was also suspicious. It looks like you just changed his mind about egruntz and made him want to change his focus to Marshy now. So far I see nothing wrong with his actions. All it shows is that he is not afraid to use his vote, which I think is more of a town tell than anything else. Seeing as how mafia would be more hesitant.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7764581&postcount=121
Jungle actually answers Kevin’s question from before, which is good. He foses Stingers for voting Marshy after Mentos presented an argument against him.

Oops. I had not realized it was such a scummy move. I keep thinking that one day a new player is going to come in here and feign ignorance and dupe Town like that. I thought Egruntz could be doing that so I voted him to encourage a response to stingers' accusation. I was not so willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but mentos answered for him making it pointless. So Unvote: Egruntz.
Lolwut? It looks to me as though Marshy never had a reason to vote Egruntz, especially since he backs down very easily.

So stinger, you are saying it's okay to vote on little or no evidence? Your playstyle seems to be suggesting that. Yes, you have to vote to win. But misvote, we mislynch, and we lose. Bandwagon votes are dangerous. Not saying you jumped on the bandwagon, but an indy and the two mafia jump on that bandwagon and we have ourselves a lynch (or very close to one).
I think it’s ok. Especially since it is early d1, most of the accusations will be random and not very strong. You can’t really get deciding evidence so early in the day, so all Stingers did was promote/instigate conversation/discussion. There is no reason that he should be punished for this.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7788647&postcount=138
Though there are a few things wrong with his thought process, I think this is a solid post and it makes a lot of sense to me. You’re not about to get anywhere if people are afraid to vote/pressure others. This is why we always end up NLing D1 which is hella annoying to me.

It’s funny that people continue to press the Stingers’s bandwagon votes, but seem to ignore Marshy’s. Is it because Stingers is a weaker target?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7789318&postcount=150
Baller *** post right here.

I don't think stingers is suspicious. It's just behavior that's noticeable. If you start changing your vote so often then you start to look suspicious.

Though I don't disagree with notion that people should vote for someone they feel are suspicious, I am against people voting without stating their reasoning behind it, and saying "i agree with what x said" doesn't count. They should tell us WHY they agree with what they said.
If you don’t find him suspicious than don’t lynch him. Changed his vote often? Wow because changing it 1 time is SOOO often.

People start calling out egruntz for his newb stuff. Btw Rockin, why do you call KK crackers? Lol.
**** I am only on pg 4. Sighhh I’m going to stop commenting on any and everything that catches my eye, since its just making this post unnecessary long. I’ll try to make it more brief.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7799535&postcount=183
Marshy votes Rockin and then later in this post says he was never really suspicious of him and unvotes soon afterwards. It looks to me that Marshy is up to something, he hasn’t seemed to be very behind any of his votes. Although I think this, I am getting very townie tells from Marshy.

Oh word, yaya makes a post. Forgot you were even in the game. Didn’t you promise Tom that you were actually going to be active? It doesn’t look like you are keeping your promise.

Kevin asks stingers a question about role claiming, but Stingers misunderstands it and thinks Kevin wants him to roleclaim and tells him to ‘dream on’ over and over. This seems to annoy a few people…

Ok, I'm very close to voting you. Kevin asked how you felt about a role claim, not asked you to role claim now. Second of all, you just seem to want to continually berate town for not quick-lynching with no solid suspicions. While we all consider lynching carefully and are thinking things through, you seem to be pushing a lynch and saying instead of answering questions directed at you, you just continually say that we suck at mafia for playing smart and not trying to come up with a lynch a week before the deadline, and more importantly not deciding way too early that a lynch is the best option. If you continue to berate town because we don't agree with your opinion, it leads me to one of two thoughts.

1. You're mafia trying to make us go through with a lynch knowing that the candidates aren't mafia.
2. You're just being a hinderance to town by refusing to answer questions directed at you, and berating everyone who doesn't agree with you. Even if you are town, leaving you alive gives the mafia someone to point fingers at who is frustrating enough we can believe they're mafia.

Honestly, if you don't start answering questions directed at you and begin playing the game instead of calling everyone terrible who doesn't agree with your opinion, I don't see any benefit to keeping you alive and in the game.

Also, as an aside, I'm going to try to get another good post in tonight, but tomorrow I leave for Canada, and will be there until Sunday night. I'll have my laptop, but may not be able to post very often.
Berate: to scold or condemn vehemently and at length.
I don’t think stingers was doing any of this. Just because he has a certain style of play doesn’t mean you should penalize him for it. That’s like getting butthurt over frozenflame talking about the waaaambulance. [Lol though he was mafia in that game, so this may not be a very good comparison XD]

1. He’s/I’m not mafia.
2. I won’t be a hindrance. And leaving me alive shouldn’t be too big of a problem, I can fend for myself if mafia wants to point fingers at me.

Stingers answers KevinM’s questions.

LOL actually stingers has been insulting mad people. ****… But that just seems to be the way he is. Note he got banned, so it leads me to believe that he has been getting infractions for his behavior. /Metagaming.

It's not like this is the first time I've ever been encountered with the idea of a mass roleclaim. I already know my stance on it and I don't need to "weigh the options" for your sake.

It can stand to benefit town if Mafia is ****ing ******** and makes obviously false claims. I like to assume I'm playing with more intelligent people then that from time to time, but if SWF mafia makes idiotic claims then I guess it can be beneficial.

The only time when mass claim is preferable from a Town perspective is when there is a large number of confirmed townies and a small number of unconfirmed. The unconfirmed should mass claim to help the confirmed figure out how to lynch.
Fairly decent post.

vote: Stingers You've just convinced me that you're usefulness for the town is little, if any at all.
K answer my question from one of my previous post. Anyone else who shares this sentiment should also answer my question and present an actual argument as to why I should be lynched.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7810192&postcount=263
agreed

Okay, so you guys are out of leads?

Consider day over, then.
Lol this post scared me.

Well thing is, that's the only lynch so far that seems acceptable in my eyes. Of course, stingers makes a better canidate, we don't know how much info we may get out of his lynch. I have said my suspicion upon other people, but it's not enough to lead a vote. In my eyes at least, I feel that a egruntz lynch is a way to go. speaking of Egruntz...HEY! Get over here and post you bum! We only have three days till the day is over.
If stingers was a better lynch why would you want to lynch Egrunting? Explain your thought process por favor.

I kind of skimmed the rest because I wanted to make this post sooner and I was getting bored.

I want mentos to explain why he said he agreed with an egruntx lynch that early in the day.

I think Chaco is very suspicious, though I really don’t know why. And yaya is very inactive and it bothers me and I would be down for his or Chaco’s lynch. Jungle has also been bothering me for some reason.

I think that stingers has promoted discussion and been more useful than some people here. Some of his posts were very valid, and it just seems as though you guys are getting turned off by his abrasive nature. You can’t even claim that you want to lynch him because he is unhelpful now because I replaced him and I will be helpful. And town doesn’t want to lose me.

Well these are my thoughts, I know it’s chaotic and not very well formatted, but that is the way my mind thinks. Atleast you know that I am paying attention and am willing to openly scumhunt.

Please mods, extension?
 

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The main thing about my suspicions on you and Junglefever is the fact of the ATTITUDE you both had on him. Upon his constant disregard to answering questions or co-operating, you two lost your cools with him. You threatening him with a vote and Junglefever practically has a vote on him which if he did it out of spite, I don't see it taken off. It's just really out of character, especially from you Mentos. You've always seem to keep your cool no matter how much pressure things have gotten...and to just see you do something like that is out of character IMO.
Understandable. I'll be honest with you on why that happened. Early on in the day I began pressuring Stingers on very little reasoning to see how he would react while almost everyone was inactive. I didn't think he was that scummy when I started to bring things up about him, and then he started ignoring everything and accomplishing nothing which distracted all conversation to him. I still didn't have any strong reasoning against him, but with every post he made he pulled conversation back toward him, and I threatened to vote him hoping to elicit a full response.

And also, people who are arguing that lynching Stingers was alright because of his anti town behavior leads you to believe that he won't take the game seriously, or make good use of any powers given to him, how do you feel now that he has been replaced?
Now, stemming from what I said above, a lot of the reason I was willing for a stingers lynch is because no matter the pressure on him, he never tried to work with town and give us anything. This made me think that if he weren't scum, he would not help us at all in later days, as with all eyes on him he still refused to even give a substantial post. Now that there is a new player behind the wheel so to speak, I am NOT for the same lynch anymore. Macman has given us more to work with in one post than stingers did since very early in the day. Now that my unsure feeling about scumminess isn't compounded with extreme unhelpfulness, it is harder to say it doesn't hurt us much if he does flip town.

What mentosman? You would agree with his lynch this early in the day simply because one person casted suspicion on him[and a not very strong one]. Also, why did you feel the need to say that you would?

Also, what did you mean by, to a certain extent?
Oddly enough, that comment had nothing to do with any of Stingers suspicions of egruntz. I was nowhere near ready to lynch him, but the repeated playing of the noob card was(as it is now) mildly suspicious, and although it wasn't anything strong, it was enough to where at the time he was one of my higher suspects given what there was to work with. That is also what I meant when I said "to a certain extent." I was nowhere near a point of voting him, but if town had to decide on a lynch with only the information we had at that point, he would have been one I was ok with.

And then you pretty much say that the reasoning against Egruntz is weak. Then why the **** would you agree with an Egruntz lynch? This seems like a clear contradiction. It doesn’t look like you would be down for his lynch at all, instead it seems like you had a different reason for saying that you would.

Stingers than agrees with Mentos about Marshy, [which I do as well] but that he wants to focus on Egruntz.
See above, Stingers reasoning about egruntz was weak at best, but I could also see through some small other things him being a viable candidate. Since there was so little to work with at the time, that was essentially a way of saying I had an FoS going on egruntz.

Apparently stingers’s argument went from ‘not very strong’ to ‘complete crap’. But, I thought you would be down for a Egruntz lynch to a certain extent? I guess you were lying when you said that, seeing as how everything you said after that seems to contradict that thought.
Man, I should have just responded to all these at onceXD Anyway, for the first part, my thoughts on his reasoning are the exact same in both posts if you read them carefully. The only one I referred to as "complete crap" was countervoting during the joke vote phase, because let's be honest, that means just as little as any of the votes in that phase. The other two as I said, were nothing to forget, but not particularly strong. And no, I wasn't lying, as I said in my response to the other parts, I had a couple things on my mind about him that the inactivity helped appear bigger, and would have considered him due to said thoughts.


Now, I've got to go do a couple things, I'll be back within an hour to give my thoughts on our lynch for the day and what I think is a good course of action moving to the end of the day.
 

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Ask me questions if you want, I don't see anyone doing so. So how am I fairly suspicious about asking Rockin something? I don't mean to sound like Egruntz, but I am new I'm gonna make mistakes and I'm using this to learn. I don't see how your okay with my lynch based off of nothing but two questions. That just doesn't really add up imho. Everyone else has soooo much more on Stingers(Now Macman) and Egruntz, and you think two suspicious posts is enough to lynch? What's up here? That seems a little to pressing to lynch to me. I don't understand why I'm such an easy lynch candidate. Give me reasoning.
 

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I don't even know what you are saying.

Relax, stop assuming you know why I would be ok with your lynch. I just said, i don't know why, but you are suspicious to me. You are defending yourself against nothing. I don't see why you are getting worked up.

Also, it looks like you have been playng the newb card more than egruntz has.

Everyone else has so much more on me? Like what, enlighten me?

Have you been more helpful than Stingers has?
 

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I'm not getting worked up, trust me. I just don't like to see suspicion go unanswered. That's what mis-lynches are spawned from.

Also, no I haven't played it more than he has. I don't see what your going on by here but he's said it about 4 times, and I've said it once. Other times were from me not posting much, and Jungle saying I cannot hide behind it forever. So I responded accordingly.

Go back and look through your(Stinger's) posts, and just see how anti-town he was playing. And the way you came in definitely did not help that. Joke or not. He was tossing that kind of junk all over the place.

I'm not going to answer this since I won't rate my self, let someone else answer it. It'll be more accurate that way.
 

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Mislynches are not spawned from suspicions without reasoning, what town would lynch someone based simply on gut?

So you would be ok with lynching me?
 

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I'm on my phone, but. I Was for a stingers liynch fornhis anti town behavior. However with this replacement, it turns this into something totally different. I'll exlplain more and answer your questions when I get home.
 

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I'd like a deadline extension too. The more people who ask for it, the likelier it is to happen.

Cool post Macman. I agree with your suspicions, that is, Chaco has been overly defensive and Yaya's inactivity bothers me enough that I'm also okay with lynching him. At worst we lose an inactive. I think smashman has been suspicious to me because of his wordiness and his question for egruntz. jungle I just refuse to trust. Mentos has made me wtf'd quite a few times.

Egruntz should post more too.
 

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I'd go for an extension as well... Also, just to make sure I was clear earlier, I'm not clearing any suspicion Stingers brought up off of Macman, but it was not enough for me to lynch him then, the only reason I was considering it as much was due to the fact that I felt if he was town, with his lack of changing behavior, it would be a reasonably solid lynch choice, and if he flipped town it would have been minimal loss in terms of usefulness much like inactives. Now that Macman has replaced him, I feel it is a bigger risk.

As for who else I would consider if we get an extension and have time to look into it? Chaco is definitely up there. There's not really anything big, just something about his defensiveness to Mac's gut suspicion, and trying to make Rockin's post about an SK seem suspicious, plus his earlier "considering there is an SK."

Other than that, I'm not too sure. If we get an extension I'm going to go back and try to dig some stuff up, if we don't though it's too late to put a lynch together and I'll be fine settling for the no lynch.
 

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I'd also be for an extension

Marshy, why do you refuse to trust me? Just because of HP Mafia?
 

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Jungle, can you unvote me? Unless of course you still want to lynch me. I don't feel comfortable being in the majority when we are so close to the deadline.

which reminds me. unvote, vote: No Lynch for now atleast. I would not be very happy if we ended up NLing. Though it's better than lynching me.

Also, Marshy agreeing with me makes me feel weird. I have my eye on you.
 

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Since I believe it's 3 for no lynch and 3 for Mac, I'm going to Vote: No lynch just because I'm not comfortable with Mac getting lynched if we don't get our extension.
 

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Pretty much jungle.

I think it's good that you're still skeptical of me, Macman. It shows that you're not prone to jumping to conclusions.

And I thought it only happened when a majority voted for him? In case it isn't then Vote: No Lynch, Unvote: No Lynch so a No Lynch would occur if it stays tied, I think.
 

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Well, in the rules, if it's tied whoever reached the number of votes first gets lynched... With me and Mac voting no-lynch, that puts it 4-3 no to mac, so if we don't get an extension we nl.
 

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Ok, I'm back. Since I traveled alllll day though, had to wake up early, and have work at 945 am tomorrow, I won't read or post thoughts until at least tomorrow afternoon/night (maybe morning if I wake up early enough).

P.S. Mango vs Armada. Epic.
 

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The deadline is now the end of today, today being Tuesday the 14th. 11:59 pm. However, further extension will not be granted for Day 1.
 

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I'm just coming back from work. Glad to see Macman posting. Now that he posted accordinly as well as showed co-operation, there should be no votes on him right now. Now that we got a extra day to work with, we can really try and talk what lynch are we to aim at. Hando, I know you're just coming back, but read up ASAP!

now...Chaco

You are acting veeeery defensive for some reason. A few people have just little suspicion on you, and you're acting paranoid. You seem real quick to try and clear your name where there isn't barely any focus on you. You hiding something?

And Jungle, I like how you're constantly bringing up HP mafia-ness with Marshy.
 

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I don't see it as that defensive really, but I guess it's just not being used to it. If I was hiding something would I call attention to myself?
 

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Just a warning, my laptop has apparently died, so until I can find my vista disk and get stuff fixed(I get the bsod during the windows startup time) I will have extremely limited access to the net. Hopefully ill find it quick once I wake up and get back here.
 

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I don't see it as that defensive really, but I guess it's just not being used to it. If I was hiding something would I call attention to myself?
Well maybe. I mean, if you're town, you should not have no worries about attention to yourself in anyway or hiding something (Unless it's a important role).
 

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Sorry for acting defensive, but I really didn't know how to respond to that. I thought I should respond to them.

And I agree.
 

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Oh, no. I've already stated when Stingers was still I didn't feel comfortable with a lynch.
 

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Erm...hello? Guys? We got a extra day for a reason you know?

Let's start fanning out the obvious here: There is no longer a need for a Macman lynch (at least, not for this day). He's already given us a lot to work with and we obviously know he'll be co-operative (at least more then Stingers). Most of the reasons for stinger lynch was cause how unhelpful he is. Since that Macman took his place, that reason is null and void >>

We need to decide what we should for this day and fast. For the post part, Chaco is acting a bit defensive even on something so small. I ask you all

How does everyone feel about a Chaco or Egruntz lynch? If they don't find him to be a good lynch choice, who do you think it should be?

Would everyone be happy of a no lynch? Please give reason to these.

I'm all up for a Egruntz lynch cause of how inactive he seems to be, as well as his small reasoning for a stinger lynch.

we got less then 9 hours. we gotta make a decision and fast.
 

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There is no need for a Macman lynch at this point, however, it still stands that he said Stingers was playing his role right. He said that somewhere back and I'm too lazy to quote. You have to take into account everything Stingers said about the role and not just take suspicion off of the primary person since he got replaced.

With that being said, I stand by no lynch. You can't be sure about Macman now since he was called in as a replacement. And as far as Egruntz goes, well, I can't say much. If your for lynching inactives that's your thing.
 

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Sorry macman unvote

First, Im in class then going to work, then seeing HP so this is probably my last post today

I'm not really comfortable with a lynch on Chaco or egruntz. Defensiveness when attacked isn't a reason to lynch imo. Raising the same point twice is a bit odd, but not worth a vote. I dot usually vote off inactives.

Also, were you being sarcastic about that comment Rockin about bringing up HP?
 

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Also, were you being sarcastic about that comment Rockin about bringing up HP?
A little bit. I just noticed how you used the HP Mafia case on Marshy a lot. In terms of him 'protecting' others and the fact of trust. Usually I see like one reference or two, or maybe several references from that said character (and keep in mind, both these things would target different people at a time). I just thought that should take of some notice.
 

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Just gonna point out that we have like around 5+ hours left. And most of the people asked for the extension have not posted.
 

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(2) Macman: egruntz, KevinM,
(4) No Lynch: Handorin, Chaco, Macman, Mentosman
(1) egruntz: Rockin

(4) not voting: smashman90, Yaya, Marshy, junglefever

It takes 6 votes out of 11 to lynch.
The deadline has been set for the last second of the 14th of July.
 

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Egruntz, KevinM - If you two been keeping up with the thread, any reason why you two still are for a Macman lynch? Stingers has been replaced and Macman has been helpful thus far, so I am pretty curious

Yaya - Start posting a bit more. You've only did about 7 or so post that involves the game. That goes the same to Egruntz

Everyone (except those that answered) - Please answer my questions. Time is critical
 

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great use of the extension guys.

yaya, egruntz, kevm, smashman: where is yu be?

FOS: KevinM for leaving his vote on me. >=[
 
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