Totally Normal Mafia [Game Over, Town and Independent Win]

[Handorin]

We shouldn't always have to consider one even though there's usually a SK in a mafia game. There could be a day when the SK isn't even in the game

Like Chaco, this bothered me a bit, but for a different reason. It is because Rockin is throwing out the idea there could be a SK. All options should always be considered. I think this is one of the reasons mafia won in Newbie #1 (I could be wrong though. I missed the end since I was at Genesis). Don't be like the scrubs in Spiderman mafia and think about it. I agree with this though:

I can't say anything other than "It's possible". However I'm hoping people don't justify keeping their votes on him saying "Well he could always be indy". That seems half-as sed and I'd rather we pass judgment on stingers later in the game because mafia may've just given us a confirmed townie. Who knows.

This is why I don’t think he’s that bad of player. I think that he was breadcrumbing his role in this post. Obviously I am not going to explain how, since I would rather keep my role secret, but I am just pointing this out so that you know for sure that the possibility of me fakeclaiming a role is heavily limited and I would have had to already thought up a fake role for me to make such an assertion, if I was scum.

Wut? Breadcrumbing a breadcrumb? xD

Mislynches are not spawned from suspicions without reasoning, what town would lynch someone based simply on gut?

A town full of spammasters.

How does everyone feel about a Chaco or Egruntz lynch? If they don't find him to be a good lynch choice, who do you think it should be?

I'm not feeling it. I'll pull the nub card for chaco and say it's kind of a natural response. If I recall correctly, he kind of played the same in Newbie #1, except a little more outgoing because it was a newbie game (I believe he has said this). The same thing pretty much happened to me in my first game. He has not raised on flags due to this. Egruntz: I've kinda said this before.

Would everyone be happy of a no lynch? Please give reason to these.

Yes. My reasoning from before still stands. I don't think there is enough suspicion on one person to get votes from six people.

Answers in bold.

 

[Chaco]

All options should always be considered. I think this is one of the reasons mafia won in Newbie #1 (I could be wrong though. I missed the end since I was at Genesis). Don't be like the scrubs in Spiderman mafia and think about it. I agree with this though

Yes it actually was. He considered for a time that a cop wasn't present and that Meno and Sky were maf partners.

And yes, I have said.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Lol hando, he played the same in newbie 1? He was MAFIA in newbie 1.

XD

 

[Chaco]

Way to twist it. I masked myself as town well until the end, and uh maybe it's because Im Town in this.

 

[smashman90]

great use of the extension guys.

yaya, egruntz, kevm, smashman: where is yu be?

Me, I was gone for most of the day cuz I watched Bruno today and it ***** my mind with awful images. It was funny, but it ***** my mind. :O

At this point, I think a no-lynch is the best option for now. We can't seem to decide who we want to lynch and I doubt we can in just a short amount of time.

 

[Rockin]

I guess that's it then. we'll go for a no lynch then

unvote: Egruntz Vote: No lynch

I know we could just wait the rest of the 15 minutes, but meh.

 

[mentosman8]

Lol yeah, I didn't have anything solid to go on, and not having net cept on my phone for about the last 26 hours kind of killed any chance I had of being useful... Now I've got a working setup so d2 I won't have to be inactive at all.

 

[KevinM]

Guys I have work every day 12-9 hard for me to be active during the day sorry


Sucks we NL'd and literally got no information D1, we should have just had Mafia NK night 0 at this rate. Because tomorrow is going to be D1 part 2.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Atrocious use of the extension. At the very least mafia to give us a confirmed townie in Macman.
ocd test 3

I'm going to Vote smashman because I think he's suspicious due to stuff I have said before.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

stop calling me confirmed >=[, i would rather they not NK me

 

[The Riddler]

Vote Count
(2) Macman: egruntz, KevinM,
(5) No Lynch: Handorin, Chaco, Macman, Mentosman, Rockin

(4) not voting: smashman90, Yaya, Marshy, junglefever

It takes 6 votes out of 11 to lynch.
The deadline has been set for the last second of the 14th of July.

So the day ends with no lynch!

Deadline for actions is the last second of this Friday, the 17th of July.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

hahahhaahah, i was expecting a riddle

 

[tmw_redcell]

Hey I can vouch for that Riddler guy. Oops.

 

[Rockin]

Hey, I forgot to say this before the day ended, but I'll be at Otakon from this point on Till Sunday, so don't expect any post from me. Once I get back, I'll do my best to follow around the thread ^^

 

[KevinM]

Sounds good

 

[smashman90]

I'll be on vacation from the 18th. to the 22nd. and I will not be around to post at that time. I should be home on the 22nd and I'll be sure to post when I get back. Sorry that I didn't post it before the day was over.

 

[tmw_redcell]

It turns out that junglefever, strawberry vanilla townie is dead.

With 10 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

 

[Chaco]

Woah, I really didn't expect Jungle to be killed. We really don't need to NL today though. So let's get things going.

Uhm, first off. @ Everyone: Do you think it's a possiblity that there really is no SK? Or do you feel that it's a possibility that a roleblocker hit right first off? I'm really leaning towards it being the latter. I feel it was a lucky hit.

 

[Yaya]

Chaco, why do you mention a Roleblocker but not a Doctor? I feel a doctor is more likely to have protected the right person last night.

Well, first we should find anybody who was kind of against Jungle, have a reason to kill him, anybody Jungle was suspicious of?

I'll spend some time of the day researching Jungle's posts.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I hated jungle. He sucked.

 

[Chaco]

Chaco, why do you mention a Roleblocker but not a Doctor? I feel a doctor is more likely to have protected the right person last night.

Well, first we should find anybody who was kind of against Jungle, have a reason to kill him, anybody Jungle was suspicious of?

I'll spend some time of the day researching Jungle's posts.

It just slipped my mind. Well, even the doctor getting it right is still unlikely. I dunno. Role blocker and a doctor are both options though.

I agree, I'll go do so as well.

 

[mentosman8]

Role-blockers generally can't block kills in these games. In all honesty, I'm inclined to think we don't have a serial killer. It is possible that a doc save occurred, but I find it more likely that this game doesn't have an sk. We can't rule it out, but I definitely lean toward this being some straight up town vs mafia

 

[Chaco]

Role-blockers generally can't block kills in these games. In all honesty, I'm inclined to think we don't have a serial killer. It is possible that a doc save occurred, but I find it more likely that this game doesn't have an sk. We can't rule it out, but I definitely lean toward this being some straight up town vs mafia

Didn't know that. Thank ya.

But if it's that way, it's quite possible. How do you feel about the presence of other indys?

 

[Handorin]

Role-blockers generally can't block kills in these games. In all honesty, I'm inclined to think we don't have a serial killer. It is possible that a doc save occurred, but I find it more likely that this game doesn't have an sk. We can't rule it out, but I definitely lean toward this being some straight up town vs mafia

Hmm...well....I would say yes and no to this. The way I would mod it would be:
Mafia>1, kill goes through
Mafia=1, kill does not

Simply because you roleblock an individual and not a group. So a SK could be roleblocked.

I think it is more likely that there is no SK though. Doc saves are slim, and I actually doubt a RB would be in this game. I suppose a BP could have been hit... I'm leaning toward my first guess though.

 

[mentosman8]

I know that's how it is on EM, but I thought I remembered after one of my earlier games here hearing it mentioned predominately at this site they couldn't block lethal actions... I may have remembered wrong though and thought of something similar.

 

[Florida]

It's also possible that the Mafia targetted someone that the Doctor protected while the Serial Killer was the one that killed junglefever.

 

[Chaco]

Flo Rida ~

 

[Florida]

Oh, right. This is egruntz. I changed my name.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

aw you guys suck

GO TOWN

 

[KevinM]

That's an odd kill.

 

[Chaco]

That's an odd kill.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Yaya]

****it.

Stingers attracted so much attention Day 1 I could not find ANYTHING to point to a reason for Jungle's death.

This was a purely random kill, I see no reason on why they would kill Jungle.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Ok who cares about the kill, we don't need 2342 ppl saying the same thing.

vote: chaco

 

[KevinM]

Joke voting day 2?

Or voting with no explanation?

Either one on D2 isn't helpful.

Since you're going to continue to play anti town, I have no problem again looking to lynch you.

Vote Mac

 

[Chaco]

Woah, kinda pushy aren't we? Apparently you see no problem with Jungle getting killed, and don't see it as weird. When I really see it as weird, and it should be discussed if possible.

So for now FOS: Macman

 

[Rockin]

Hey guys, back from Otakon. I'm gonna start reading the thread and catch up

 

[Rockin]

Looking back, I don't think I found any suspicious thing to Junglefever besides his votes upon Stingers and his comments towards Marshy (in a HP Mafia reference).

Chaco, I find your first post to Day 2 pretty weird. You're going over the fact that someone possibly roleblocked a SK instead of a doctor. It's like you have an idea of what exactly happen. >>

Mentos, keep in mind that role blockers negate 'actions' of said power role/player. It's possible that a roleblocker can indeed block lethal actions such as Vig, SK, and Mafia (Only when there's one more).

Macman, you first start to be helpful but is now you're going with a 'don't care attitude' and going after Chaco? any possible reason to that?

KevinM, you seem to have a vision as of who you thought they were gonna kill. Anyone you had in mind? Same to you, Chaco.

 

[Chaco]

Well, the reason roleblocker was going through my head is because of my role in newbie 1. I just typed up fast and went with that still on the brain.

I just figured that they'd go after someone different. Not to be mean to Jungle, but he's not someone Id go after first. I was expecting to see Macman, because of D1, or Mashy dead.

Sorry for the short post. I'm on my phone.

 

[KevinM]

Unvote

Honestly I'm at a loss for who I feel is more scummy, Marshy, Smashman or Mac.

Mac is decidedly anti-town.

Marshy's blatant defending of Egruntz and Stingers based off of "SWF Town is always wrong D1"

And Smashman's Wishy Washy playstyle thus far.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Hmm, I wanted more people to respond before I posted but oh well.

Joke voting day 2?

Or voting with no explanation?

Either one on D2 isn't helpful.

Since you're going to continue to play anti town, I have no problem again looking to lynch you.

Vote Mac

You've never jokevoted as a townie before after d1?

Or voted without an explanation?

I voted because I am getting scummy vibes from him and because I wanted to see how he responded to this random unexplained pressure. I wanted to see if I would evoke a reaction similar to that of yesterday's. Explain how I am behaving anti town.

Looking to lynch me for something you do not think is scummy can also be deemed anti town.
Since you're going to continue to play anti town, I have no problem again looking to lynch you. Oh wait, nvm, I'm actually going to attempt to find scum instead of punish someone for playing in a way that I do not like.

Woah, kinda pushy aren't we? Apparently you see no problem with Jungle getting killed, and don't see it as weird. When I really see it as weird, and it should be discussed if possible.

So for now FOS: Macman

I see no problem with jungle getting killed? Is there a problem? Why? Do you think I expected noone to die last night? I never said discussing the kill was a problem, but when we have 3 different people come into the thread and making brief posts saying the exact same thing ["oh the kill last night was so odd!"] isn't very helpful. Especially when noone is explaining exactly why it is odd, or why mafia/sk chose to kill Jungle. Saying that the kill is odd does nothing to further town in scum hunting. These kinds of posts are the ones that allow players to feign activity without really inputting much of anything.

Why the FOS Chaco?

Chaco, I find your first post to Day 2 pretty weird. You're going over the fact that someone possibly roleblocked a SK instead of a doctor. It's like you have an idea of what exactly happen. >>

agreed.

Macman, you first start to be helpful but is now you're going with a 'don't care attitude' and going after Chaco? any possible reason to that?

What have I said that made it seem like I did not care?

KevinM, you seem to have a vision as of who you thought they were gonna kill. Anyone you had in mind? Same to you, Chaco.

I am also interested in this.

I just figured that they'd go after someone different. Not to be mean to Jungle, but he's not someone Id go after first. I was expecting to see Macman, because of D1, or Mashy dead.

What happened d1 that would lead you to expect me to be NKed?

Mac is decidedly anti-town.

Explain.