Fair enough.
Yaya, do you agree with the general consensus that stingers has been unhelpful and scummy as a result?
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Totally Normal Mafia [Game Over, Town and Independent Win]
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Yaya, do you agree with the general consensus that stingers has been unhelpful and scummy as a result?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Also, I'd like for you all to realize Anti-Town and Scum are different things and are treated differently. =)
Alright. Also, vote count please. rdc test
I'm starting to really believe Marshy when others say they're too 'tunnel minded.' I'm not sure what either alignment both egruntz and stingers is, but they're not gonna be much of my main concern atm. I feel there should be other people to start focusing.
I also want to see Yaya post a bit more. Stop being inactive and post a bit more >:
Now frankly, there really isn't a lot of people to really suspect in my eyes. However, we should put the topic in a new angle. Also Mentos, try not to get easily irritated by stingers. You know you can play better when you're not angry.
Everyone - BESIDES stringers and egruntz, who else do you find suspicious? Is there any reason to this?
also KevinM, I didn't ignore your question. I just don't know really who to poke for the 10 questions >>
I also want to see Yaya post a bit more. Stop being inactive and post a bit more >:
Now frankly, there really isn't a lot of people to really suspect in my eyes. However, we should put the topic in a new angle. Also Mentos, try not to get easily irritated by stingers. You know you can play better when you're not angry.
Everyone - BESIDES stringers and egruntz, who else do you find suspicious? Is there any reason to this?
also KevinM, I didn't ignore your question. I just don't know really who to poke for the 10 questions >>
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Why don't we all lynch Marshy now? =)
I would if I wasn't so sure I felt like lynching you.
Anti-Town and Scummy may be two different things but they both hurt the town, and I won't have that if I'm trying to win.
Anti-Town and Scummy may be two different things but they both hurt the town, and I won't have that if I'm trying to win.
I actually like this Marshy, this is how I'm used to him playing =)
stingers
Smash Obsessed
You'd lynch Marshy if I wasn't here, but you like how he's playing? @.@
I was being sarcastic @ my comment to you sorry for the misinterpretation.
Some of you have made a habit of forgetting to unvote before revoting. Please remember that it helps keep the votecounts accurate and easier to follow.
Vote Count
(3) stingers135: egruntz, KevinM, Chaco
(1) Rockin: Handorin
(1) Marshy: stingers135
(1) Handorin: junglefever
(5) not voting: smashman90, Rockin, Yaya, mentosman8, Marshy
It takes 6 votes out of 11 to lynch.
The deadline has been set for Midnight EST of the 14th of July.
Vote Count
(3) stingers135: egruntz, KevinM, Chaco
(1) Rockin: Handorin
(1) Marshy: stingers135
(1) Handorin: junglefever
(5) not voting: smashman90, Rockin, Yaya, mentosman8, Marshy
It takes 6 votes out of 11 to lynch.
The deadline has been set for Midnight EST of the 14th of July.
Yaya
Smash Champion
Umm.
@stingers: Wow, just, wow, that may of been the biggest meltdown I have ever seen in a Mafia game, I was going to go for an egruntz lynch, but after seeing that...
You shoot down all ideas, calling them "****ing stupid" and yet here we see you doing nothing but being a lazy prick, avoiding questions, shooting peoples ideas down, and not contributing AT ALL.
@Marshy: Read message to stingers.
@Rockin: I don't see anybody suspicious besides stingers.
@stingers: Wow, just, wow, that may of been the biggest meltdown I have ever seen in a Mafia game, I was going to go for an egruntz lynch, but after seeing that...
You shoot down all ideas, calling them "****ing stupid" and yet here we see you doing nothing but being a lazy prick, avoiding questions, shooting peoples ideas down, and not contributing AT ALL.
@Marshy: Read message to stingers.
@Rockin: I don't see anybody suspicious besides stingers.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
vote for me then. ^.^
Why did I vote Hando?
unvote
Anyway, what the **** happened while I was at work?
@ Rockin & Marshy: Yes, we may have become a little tunnel visioned on Stingers, but it's not without reason. Look at the attention he's drwawing to himself. The fact he expects us to do his work for him and hopes to encourage discussion with insults makes me want to vote him out of pure spite, though I know better than this. His posts get us nowhere and he hasn't done anything to benefit the town.
On the topic of Marshy, this is how he always plays. Little or no reads on him. Again, I always think he's mafia.
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Anyway, what the **** happened while I was at work?
@ Rockin & Marshy: Yes, we may have become a little tunnel visioned on Stingers, but it's not without reason. Look at the attention he's drwawing to himself. The fact he expects us to do his work for him and hopes to encourage discussion with insults makes me want to vote him out of pure spite, though I know better than this. His posts get us nowhere and he hasn't done anything to benefit the town.
On the topic of Marshy, this is how he always plays. Little or no reads on him. Again, I always think he's mafia.
Yaya
Smash Champion
Wait.
UNVOTE EVERYBODY.
Stingers is a jester.
I'm calling it right now, this is why.
Stingers is a Jester.
UNVOTE EVERYBODY.
Stingers is a jester.
I'm calling it right now, this is why.
Here we see him happy for the egruntz vote on him, this bothered me for a bit.
This solidified it, stingers is trying to get lynched, this is why he's been a lazy prick, insulting town, not helping, and the like.
Stingers is a Jester.
If he's a jester then he leaves the game D1 with little to no importance and all he does is fulfill his winning condition.
If he's scum playing off as a jester then we nail a scum.
And if he's town he's playing a largely anti-town game.
If he's scum playing off as a jester then we nail a scum.
And if he's town he's playing a largely anti-town game.
Just because he wins doesn't mean we lose.
I really don't see any loss in voting stingers right now. He's been the definition of unhelpful.
Convince me otherwise.
I really don't see any loss in voting stingers right now. He's been the definition of unhelpful.
Convince me otherwise.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
LMAO what
jester? you guys are ********.
jester? you guys are ********.
vote: Stingers
You've just convinced me that you're usefulness for the town is little, if any at all.
You've just convinced me that you're usefulness for the town is little, if any at all.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
good to know @.@
I'll try. I haven't been defending stingers because I'm mafia and can't handle the pressure of 1 Townie voting me early Day 1 so respond by trying to get on their good side like he seems to think. Instead, I think stingers is probably Town and he's the wrong lynch toDay. This is going off nearly every player saying he's suspicious at one point or another, meaning the mafia essentially bussed him if he is mafia. Which I doubt. More likely Town is just wrong and mafia is nudging them in the wrong direction.
8 out of 9 other players voicing suspicion towards stingers:
smashman
egruntz
Rockin
mentos
Chaco
Kevin
Yaya
junglefever
Handorin said something along the lines of "stingers isn't out of my suspicion book" at one point but I thought that could be a stretch so tossed that out.
Jester speculation is unproductive.
If stingers is Town, we gain almost no information Day 2 because everyone suspected him at one point or another. So, I don't think he should be lynched toDay.
But if he's mafia then this must be the best Town ever because nearly everyone agreed on the same person in little over a week on the first Day and were all right.
Handorin
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I guess Tom missed it, partly my fault. But whatever.
Unvote Vote: No lynch
I just feel it's the best course of action right now. We have had plenty of discussion, not quite as wide spread as it should have been. Stingers is over there begging to be lynched, and I don't like that today; I don't feel egruntz has done enough to garner enough votes.
Unvote Vote: No lynch
I just feel it's the best course of action right now. We have had plenty of discussion, not quite as wide spread as it should have been. Stingers is over there begging to be lynched, and I don't like that today; I don't feel egruntz has done enough to garner enough votes.
Jungle, I don't know why you sucame to a ragevote. Look at your post up on the top of this page
and Yaya, I thought of that possibility, but then I felt that wasn't it either. Even if he's jester, he has to convincingly let himself be suspicious (while not saying 'I'm mafia! LYNCH ME!' ).
At first, I did found him suspicious upon how he's acting, but he never let up to what he was doing. He never stopped. he just kept on GOING. I don't think Mafia would encouraged this so much and I don't think he wants to lose if he was independent.
So yeah, if we lynch stingers, we'll get nothing but air. However, if we lynch someone else, we may get some kind of information.
I'm gonna keep an eye on KevinM, Mentos, and Jungle. All three of them REALLY either pointing out the obvious with stingers and it's annoying. KevinM may not be too suspicious, cause I think I read him saying he has some other suspicious people (not counting Egruntz).
I think a Egruntz lynch is good. What does town think?
If you can say that, then you should know that a stingers lynch is NOT good. Tell me, what would happen if he's town? What would happen if he has a town power role? I'll tell you. We would lead the day with no type of new information and if that latter happened, we would lose a possible important role.
and Yaya, I thought of that possibility, but then I felt that wasn't it either. Even if he's jester, he has to convincingly let himself be suspicious (while not saying 'I'm mafia! LYNCH ME!' ).
I just can't picture him being a mafia at all. Probably not even be a independent.
At first, I did found him suspicious upon how he's acting, but he never let up to what he was doing. He never stopped. he just kept on GOING. I don't think Mafia would encouraged this so much and I don't think he wants to lose if he was independent.
So yeah, if we lynch stingers, we'll get nothing but air. However, if we lynch someone else, we may get some kind of information.
I'm gonna keep an eye on KevinM, Mentos, and Jungle. All three of them REALLY either pointing out the obvious with stingers and it's annoying. KevinM may not be too suspicious, cause I think I read him saying he has some other suspicious people (not counting Egruntz).
I think a Egruntz lynch is good. What does town think?
Rockin, here's what's going through my head. Basically, lynching Stingers is like lynching an inactive for me. He hasn't said anything that's been helpful and just been insulting and joking the whole time while all the pressure is on him.
BTW Someone else I really have my eye on (since you think I'm not scum hunting and am after Stingers) is Marshy now. Maybe it's just the way we tried to defend each other in HP mafia and watching him do it here makes me even more suspicious of him, but I have more suspicion than usual now.
BTW Someone else I really have my eye on (since you think I'm not scum hunting and am after Stingers) is Marshy now. Maybe it's just the way we tried to defend each other in HP mafia and watching him do it here makes me even more suspicious of him, but I have more suspicion than usual now.
Do you know how much info usually goes by when we lynch a inactive? Sometimes little to none. When KK was lynched in TLI, I don't think town got that much info out of that day (considering I was pressured on Day 3 mostly and they went with a KK lynch cause due to town unsure of a Rockin lynch).
yes, I know that stingers is annoying and unhelpful. However, you shouldn't let that get in the way of your voting. Lynching him may quiet down D2, but we sacrifice chance of getting more information and that's a bad trade off. If he wants to keep doing what he's doing, then let him. I'm not paying him much mind atm as I want to find more suspects.
Okay so then who are you looking at then? Just me and mentos for being suspicious of Stingers?
There's also KevinM, but meh...not that much, really.
most of the days went by with just both egruntz and stingers, so there isn't really much people to suspect (even before that, I didn't find anyone suspicious).
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Okay, so you guys are out of leads?
Consider day over, then.
Consider day over, then.
Vote Count
(3) stingers135: egruntz, KevinM, junglefever
(2) No Lynch: Handorin, Chaco
(1) Marshy: stingers135
(5) not voting: smashman90, Rockin, Yaya, mentosman8, Marshy
It takes 6 votes out of 11 to lynch.
The deadline has been set for Midnight EST of the 14th of July.
(3) stingers135: egruntz, KevinM, junglefever
(2) No Lynch: Handorin, Chaco
(1) Marshy: stingers135
(5) not voting: smashman90, Rockin, Yaya, mentosman8, Marshy
It takes 6 votes out of 11 to lynch.
The deadline has been set for Midnight EST of the 14th of July.
Ok town how about we take a giant step back.
You realize your saying if we lynch stingers and we're wrong then we gain no information.. yet you then vote no lynch.
Which gives us no information PERIOD.
Seriously, I don't follow the logic.
You realize your saying if we lynch stingers and we're wrong then we gain no information.. yet you then vote no lynch.
Which gives us no information PERIOD.
Seriously, I don't follow the logic.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Lynching me is pointless~~~
I agree, I want to hear what Chaco's reason for a no lynch, rather then just say that 'I'm with Hando.'
Okay, I'm going out of town for the weekend. I'll be back Monday.
I'll have my phone where I can read the thread, and if it's absolutely important I can post (it's a pain in the arse). But I'll be back before the deadline.
I'll have my phone where I can read the thread, and if it's absolutely important I can post (it's a pain in the arse). But I'll be back before the deadline.
I'm aware he's away until near the deadline but if mentos could make a post soon that'd be dandy.
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And I don't think the fear of an SK being present should stop us from lynching, though it doesn't look like that'll happen at this rate.
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And I don't think the fear of an SK being present should stop us from lynching, though it doesn't look like that'll happen at this rate.
Smashman too. I find both hard to trust.