Toon Link's Match-up Discussions Directory (Old)

[TheZeroSuit]

Hey guys, the Zero Suit Samus boards are discussing the toon link matchup, and since I don't think many of us have much experience in this matchup, we need your help to try and make it as accurate as possible:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203418&page=32#post8640335

 

[TLMSheikant]

Updated the OP:
*Finally changed the metaknight ratio to 65:35 mk.
* Added the summaries for wolf and fox.
*Now rediscussing Snake and Sheik.

 

[WindMajor]

I've decided to continue matchup discussions. Please! No trolling, flaming or spamming. Also, dont come in saying 60-40 TL we raep!, try to make the rating the least important thing and discuss actual stuff about the matchup. So, lets go! Again...

I'd like to expand on this a little bit.

It's common knowledge that trolling, flaming, spamming, or anything relatively discouraged by the boards should be off limits. If you don't have anything good to say, it's best not to say anything at all. However, not flaming is only half the battle. If someone presents you with flame bait, PLEASE don't take it. Don't even acknowledge it. You didn't read it. There. If you MUST respond to it, take it to PMs.

Quote was taken from the Snake rediscussion, pasted here since it applies to all discussions.

 

[UncleSam]

OMG I saw the Pit boards doing this.

Meta Knight - disadvantage
Snake - even
Wario - I've only played like 1 wario lol
Falco - disadvantage
Diddy Kong - disadvantage
King Dedede - advantage
Marth - advantage
Pikachu - even
Olimar - advantage
Ice Climbers - I've only played like 1 IC lol
R.O.B. - haven't played
Kirby - advantage
Lucario - advantage
Zero Suit Samus - haven't played
Toon Link - what do you think? (real answer even)
Pit - even
Donkey Kong - advantage
GaW - disadvantage
Luigi - even
Fox - even
Wolf - haven't played
Sonic - I've only played like 1 Sonic lol
Sheik - haven't played
Bowser - advantage
Zelda - haven't played
Pokémon Trainer - even/advantage/advantage
Ike - advantage
Lucas - haven't played
Mario - haven't played
Ness - haven't played
Yoshi - advantage
Samus - advantage
Jigglypuff - haven't played
Captain Falcon - advantage
Link - advantage I hate playing against Link IDKY
Ganondorf - advantage

I just left the ones I don't know blank (with a hidden reason).
yeah I know there is a lot I don't know about but I mostly play against MK/Snake/Kirby anyway.

 

[WindMajor]

Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Disadvantage
Wario - Disadvantage
Falco - Disadvantage
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Even
Marth - Disadvantage
Pikachu - Advantage
Olimar - Even
Ice Climbers - Advantage
R.O.B. - Advantage
Kirby - Disadvantage
Lucario - Even
Zero Suit Samus - Even
Toon Link - We totally gots the advantage
Pit - Advantage
Donkey Kong - Advantage
GaW - Even
Luigi -Advantage
Fox - Even
Wolf - Even
Sonic - Advantage
Sheik - Even
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Pokémon Trainer - even/even/advantage
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Even
Mario - Advantage
Ness - Advantage
Yoshi - Advantage
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - Advantage
Link - Even
Ganondorf - Advantage

IMO. There are a couple I'm unsure about.

 

[copacetic]

I overestimate the character's potential and underestimate my ability.


Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Disadvantage
Wario - Advantage
Falco - Advantage
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Even
Marth - Even
Pikachu - Advantage
Olimar - Disadvantage
Ice Climbers - Advantage
R.O.B. - Even
Kirby - Even
Lucario - Advantage?
Zero Suit Samus - Advantage
Toon Link -Disadvantage
Pit - Advantage
Donkey Kong - Advantage
GaW - Advantage
Luigi - Advantage
Fox - Advantage
Wolf - Advantage
Sonic - ?
Sheik - Advantage
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Pokémon Trainer -?
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Advantage
Mario - ?
Ness - Advantage
Yoshi - Even
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - Advantage
Link - Advantage
Ganondorf - Advantage

Twink I like your format. Also Green Ace is a beast yoshi, not even sure if we're as good as even

 

[TheJerm]

Actually mr Noob Hyro <3.. zair to upsmash works kind of well. As a mind game.

And TLM, I was thinking that we should do that for our match up threads. Advantage, slight advantage, even, disadvantage, etcc. No more numbers/ ratios

Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Disadvantage (****ing broken piece of ****!)
Wario - Advantage
Falco - Advantage
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Advantage
Marth - Even
Pikachu - Advantage
Olimar - Disadvantage
Ice Climbers - Even
R.O.B. - Even
Kirby - Advantage
Lucario - Even
Zero Suit Samus - Advantage
Toon Link -Disadvantage =]
Pit - Advantage
Donkey Kong - Advantage
GaW - Advantage
Luigi - Advantage
Fox - Advantage
Wolf - Advantage
Sonic - Advantage
Sheik - Advantage
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Pokémon Trainer -Advantage
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Advantage
Mario - Advantage
Ness - Advantage
Yoshi - Advantage
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - Advantage
Link - Even
Ganondorf - Advantage

 

[Lobos]

As per Sasukebrowsers request


Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Disadvantage
Wario - Even
Falco - Disadvantage
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Even
Marth - Disadvantage
Pikachu - Advantage
Olimar - Disadvantage
Ice Climbers - Even
R.O.B. - Advantage
Kirby - Even
Lucario - Even
Zero Suit Samus - Even
Toon Link - Even
Pit - Even
Donkey Kong - Advantage
GaW - Even
Luigi - Even
Fox - Advantage
Wolf - Even
Sonic - Advantage
Sheik - Even
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Pokémon Trainer - Advantage
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Advantage
Mario - Advantage
Ness - Advantage
Yoshi - Advantage
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - Advantage
Link - Advantage
Ganondorf - Advantage

 

[MJG]

Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Disadvantage
Wario - Disadvantage
Falco - Even
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Even
Marth - Disadvantage
Pikachu - Even
Olimar - Disadvantage
Ice Climbers - Even
R.O.B. - Even
Kirby - Even
Lucario - Even
Zero Suit Samus - Even
Toon Link - Even
Pit - Even
Donkey Kong - Advantage
GaW - Advantage
Luigi - Advantage
Fox - Advantage
Wolf - Advantage
Sonic - Advantage
Sheik - Advantage
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Pokémon Trainer - Advantage
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Advantage
Mario - Advantage
Ness - Advantage
Yoshi - Advantage
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - Advantage
Link - Advantage
Ganondorf - Advantage

 

[TLMSheikant]

I was looking at a thread in peach boards asking peach mains what they think of peach's matchups D:. It basically is: disadvantage, even, advantage. No numbers. Just what u think according to ur experiences in those matchups. It peaked my interest and I wanna share what I think of TL's matchups. If u wanna do so too feel free just copy paste this:

Meta Knight -
Snake -
Wario -
Falco -
Diddy Kong -
King Dedede -
Marth -
Pikachu -
Olimar -
Ice Climbers -
R.O.B. -
Kirby -
Lucario -
Zero Suit Samus -
Toon Link -
Pit -
Donkey Kong -
GaW -
Luigi -
Fox -
Wolf -
Sonic -
Sheik -
Bowser -
Zelda -
Pokémon Trainer -
Ike -
Lucas -
Mario -
Ness -
Yoshi -
Samus -
Jigglypuff -
Captain Falcon -
Link -
Ganondorf -

Remove all characters u have never faced from the list and dont go into detail about why u think we beat /lose/go even with said character.

Now for my opinion:
Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Disadvantage
Wario - Even
Falco -Disadvantage
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Even
Marth - Disadvantage
Pikachu - Advantage
Olimar - Even
Ice Climbers - Advantage
R.O.B. - Even
Kirby - Advantage
Lucario - Even
Zero Suit Samus - Even
Toon Link - Even
Pit - Advantage
Donkey Kong - Advantage
GaW - Advantage
Luigi - Advantage
Fox - Even
Wolf - Advantage
Sonic - Advantage
Sheik - Even
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Pokémon Trainer - Even/Advantage/Advantage
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Advantage
Mario - Advantage
Ness - Even
Yoshi - Advantage
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - Advantage
Link - Advantage
Ganondorf - Advantage

Heres the original thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=251274

 

[BRLNK88]

My List:

Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Slight Disadvantage
Wario - Slight Disadvantage
Falco - Slight Disadvantage
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Even
Marth - Even
Pikachu - Slight Advantage
Olimar - Slight Disadvantage
Ice Climbers - Slight Advantage
R.O.B. - Even
Kirby - Slight Advantage
Lucario - Even
Zero Suit Samus - Even
Toon Link - Even
Pit - Even
Donkey Kong - Slight Advantage
GaW - Slight Advantage
Luigi - Advantage
Fox - Slight Advantage
Wolf - Even
Sonic - Advantage
Sheik - Advantage
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Pokémon Trainer - Advantage
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Advantage
Mario - Advantage
Ness - Advantage
Yoshi - Advantage
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - **** Advantage
Link - Advantage
Ganondorf - **** Advantage

 

[Slademj15]

My cousin "Who's a Snake main and a Link main" has told me something that even I "who I main Toon link" am unsure of now. He says that the matchup between Diddy and Toon link should be in Diddy's favor since Jash has lost to ADHD more than twice and he beat him once in a tourney play.

Now that I've said that. I need your opinions and explainations.
Is it really suppose to be on Diddy's favor?

 

[BIGM1994]

i think tl is just as bad against snake as he is meta, maybe even worse XD

 

[NearZzz]

Meta Knight - Disadvantage
Snake - Disadvantage
Wario - Slight Disadvantage
Falco - Disadvantage
Diddy Kong - Even
King Dedede - Even
Marth - DisAdvantage
Pikachu - Slight Advantage
Olimar - Slight Disadvantage
Ice Climbers - Even
R.O.B. - Slight Advantage
Kirby - Even
Lucario - Slight Disadvantage
Zero Suit Samus - Even
Toon Link - Loldittos
Pit - Even
Donkey Kong - Slight Advantage
GaW - Even
Luigi - Advantage
Fox - Slight Advantage
Wolf - Advantage
Sonic - Advantage
Sheik - Slight Advantage
Bowser - Advantage
Zelda - Advantage
Charizard - Advantage
Squritle- Disadvantage
Ivysaur- Advantage
Ike - Advantage
Lucas - Advantage
Mario - Advantage
Ness - Advantage
Yoshi - Advantage
Samus - Advantage
Jigglypuff - Advantage
Captain Falcon - Major Advantage
Link - Advantage
Ganondorf - Major Advantage

Imo.

 

[IrisKong]

My cousin "Who's a Snake main and a Link main" has told me something that even I "who I main Toon link" am unsure of now. He says that the matchup between Diddy and Toon link should be in Diddy's favor since Jash has lost to ADHD more than twice and he beat him once in a tourney play.

Now that I've said that. I need your opinions and explainations.
Is it really suppose to be on Diddy's favor?

I think the diddy match up is really even, its just that one mistake can cause a quick loss of a stock and the whole outcome of the match. Either you have control or you are getting combo'd to hell (this goes both ways). Arrows seem to help keep diddy under control but nanas are **** if you let diddy get control.

 

[Slademj15]

I think the diddy match up is really even, its just that one mistake can cause a quick loss of a stock and the whole outcome of the match. Either you have control or you are getting combo'd to hell (this goes both ways). Arrows seem to help keep diddy under control but nanas are **** if you let diddy get control.

I guess it is true on that. Also, I see the matchup here and some of them are false. I don't think TL vs Meta matchup is 70/30. It's not really that bad. Should be at least 65/45 or 60/40 to say the least.

 

[IrisKong]

I guess it is true on that. Also, I see the matchup here and some of them are false. I don't think TL vs Meta matchup is 70/30. It's not really that bad. Should be at least 65/45 or 60/40 to say the least.

At the highest levels of play...its pretty bad sadly.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7221324#post7221324

Link's Unite for a discussion, Link vs Toon Link!

 

[pulse131]

The Link boards r currently discussing Link v TL
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231077
feel free 2 head over and voice ur opinion. keep in mind that alot of Link mains have moved to allis and this site is like, almost dead so please be patient in getting a reply.

 

[Rockan]

I actually think a lot of these are wrong >.<

 

[Sosuke]

Yeah, most of them are outdated.

 

[IrisKong]

Who exactly are we discussing....lol?

Ouch, posted this a week ago and no response...yep, the tink boards are dead.

 

[KunaiX]

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I would be happy, if someone would send me the Match ups o,o each char in 1 mail, to complete the MUs


Thank you =D

 

[Sosuke]

Peach Uair thing.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9046939#post9046939

Toon Link
Fresh uair combo threshold: 40%
Chain first guaranteed at: 23%
Chain first guaranteed from 12% hitbox: 27%

uair x 4 (44%)
dair->uair x 2 (40%)

._.

 

[IrisKong]

Peach Uair thing.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9046939#post9046939



._.

deeeepressing.

 

[IrisKong]

Thats not a big deal. Peach isnt a popular character and the only main u gotta fear is zero. Blame him for finding the upair chain out lol. If anything...Im the one that needs to fear this...

Mikey Lenatia's peach is ridiculous.

 

[TheJerm]

40 percent comboes are not a problem. We'll still beat peach's. Camp their *****. Trust me, I main peach, I know how she works.

 

[Hyro]

lol doesn't peachs dair x 2, uair, utilt combo do more than that? Seems like it's not so bad for us...

 

[MJG]

this match up is so dumb. toonlink will just throw projectiles the whole time while peach is looking to get inside. and once shes inside...@.@

 

[IrisKong]

lol doesn't peachs dair x 2, uair, utilt combo do more than that? Seems like it's not so bad for us...

Its just another good option.

 

[Bomber7]

Hey guys, guess who's back to pay another visit to his favorite board.

got his for ya guys and Merry Christmas.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7079399#post7079399

sorta like a match-up discussion but it's not.

<3

 

[Thebest1pj]

tl vs young link.....

 

[demonictoonlink]

This thread is terrible lol
I just want to see our MU discussions. According to this like six of them are done...

 

[TLMSheikant]

This thread is terrible lol
I just want to see our MU discussions. According to this like six of them are done...

And why would that be, Mr.know it all?

 

[demonictoonlink]

Because most everything is old.

We need to start re-doing MUs and have access to them. I see no links to discussions for a lot of characters.

 

[MJG]

Because most everything is old.

We need to start re-doing MUs and have access to them. I see no links to discussions for a lot of characters.

He linked the match up summary through the characters face in the "New Discussion" part on the OP.

 

[bigkoose]

deeeepressing.

Well atleast were not fox.

 

[Thebest1pj]

dead thread?

 

[demonictoonlink]

Currently discussing Falco:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9300543#post9300543

 

[Cancel]

THis should be helpful

yup it should be