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Meta_Sonic64 said:
That's b/c Jr. was not made until Mario Sunshine. Jr. has made continous appearances in Mario games ever since Sunshine not to mention he's in Galaxy too.
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Its not the point. Vesper said Toad wasn't in the original game, which is definitely not a prerequisite to getting into Smash.

If that were the case, Ness would have never been put in or Lucas in Brawl for that matter.
 
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~Krystal~ said:
Its not the point. Vesper said Toad wasn't in the original game, which is definitely not a prerequisite to getting into Smash.

If that were the case, Ness would have never been put in or Lucas in Brawl for that matter.
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Oh God, I meant he was not the lead in that game, nor is Peach and Luigi, don't tell Toad has ever had a lead in a game where the story revolved around him cause he hasn't, he is always there to give you tips and do nothing, that's why he is a filler.
 
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vesperview said:
He wasn't in the original and it still doesn't mean he isn't more than a filler, you can also use Peach and Luigi in that game, I meant not filler in a way like Luigi isn't a filler or Peach isn't a filler.
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You're still forgetting that Luigi, Peach, & Toad had the same amount of importance in the game. Mario arguably had the most importance since it was his dream, but thats beside the point.
 
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Sonic The Hedgedawg said:
in toad's defense I shall say:
Falco was in the arwing AND a PC in the same game.
Dr. Mario was a character even though mario was a character too.


the whole 2 places at once conundrum doesn't seem to phase sakurai
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Who says that any clones will be in Brawl. The thing you mentioned has to do with Melee, this is BRAWL
 
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vesperview said:
Oh God, I meant he was not the lead in that game, nor is Peach and Luigi, don't tell Toad has ever had a lead in a game where the story revolved around him cause he hasn't, he is always there to give you tips and do nothing, that's why he is a filler.
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Peach was never given her own game prior to melee. She got in anyways. Granted, she was a pc in SMRPG, but that still doesn't show how getting your own game is a must when she was obviously not the one wearing the Mario cap prior to melee.
 
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~Krystal~ said:
You're still forgetting that Luigi, Peach, & Toad had the same amount of importance in the game. Mario arguably had the most importance since it was his dream, but thats beside the point.
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So? In case you forgot, Mario Bros 2 isn't even originally a Mario game:



It's called Dream Factory in Japan.

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Peach was never given her own game prior to melee. She got in anyways. Granted, she was a pc in SMRPG, but that still doesn't show how getting your own game is a must when she was obviously not the one wearing the Mario cap prior to melee.
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How can you compare Toad to Peach? Is ridiculous... is like saying Tingle is as important as Zelda.
 
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True, but Peach has a lot more importance to the series than Toad. If Peach wasn't kidnapped ever, then there'd be no Mario and if there was Mario there'd be no use for him..
 
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So? In case you forgot, Mario Bros 2 isn't even originally a Mario game:



It's called Dream Factory in Japan.
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It still ended up as a Mario game and a canon one at that. Adapted by Shigeru Miyamoto and turned into SMB 2. It was canon enough to be represented as an official Mario stage in Melee. Peach's ability to pull turnips from the ground is also reminiscent of SMB 2. The adapation was called Super Mario USA in Japan. Guess that game was never considered a Mario game over there.

How can you compare Toad to Peach? Is ridiculous... is like saying Tingle is as important as Zelda.
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In SMRPG, the story zoomed in on Smithy and the Star Road once Mario found & rescued Peach. In SMB 2, Peach had the same amount of importance as Luigi & Toad. In the two games Peach was playable in prior to melee, she was never the main focus of the story. Which is what you downplayed Toad for.

In every game Peach was actually relevant in prior to melee, she was nothing more than a damsel in distress, a role with little more importance than selling stars, saving games, and shouting how Bowser has taken the princess.
 
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~Krystal~ said:
In every game Peach was actually relevant in prior to melee, she was nothing more than a damsel in distress, a role with little more importance than selling stars, saving games, and shouting how Bowser has taken the princess.
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This is what took you that long to type? God! Damsel in distress? Maybe, important enough to the franchise to be a playable character in the smash series? Hell yeah! Toad? Not so much.
 
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vesperview said:
This is what took you that long to type? God! Damsel in distress? Maybe, important enough to the franchise to be a playable character in the smash series? Hell yeah! Toad? Not so much.
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Lol. Getting a little irritable are we? I never saw your response until a min ago. Don't feel too important now. I love how you back up your arguments so well with sarcasm and poor evidence. :rolleyes:
 
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~Krystal~ said:
My last response says hi.

I hope you aren't just going to brush off that wall of facts which happen to be staring you in the face.
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What facts? That Toad never had a game of his own unlike Luigi and Peach, that he's still nothing more to the Mario series than what a Moogle is to the Final Fantasy series? Seriously, you've been using lame comparisons to put Toad in a pedestal... it's pathetic.
 
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~Krystal~ said:
It still ended up as a Mario game and a canon one at that. Adapted by Shigeru Miyamoto and turned into SMB 2. It was canon enough to be represented as an official Mario stage in Melee. Peach's ability to pull turnips from the ground is also reminiscent of SMB 2. The adapation was called Super Mario USA in Japan. Guess that game was never considered a Mario game over there.



In SMRPG, the story zoomed in on Smithy and the Star Road once Mario found & rescued Peach. In SMB 2, Peach had the same amount of importance as Luigi & Toad. In the two games Peach was playable in prior to melee, she was never the main focus of the story. Which is what you downplayed Toad for.

In every game Peach was actually relevant in prior to melee, she was nothing more than a damsel in distress, a role with little more importance than selling stars, saving games, and shouting how Bowser has taken the princess.
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WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH BACK UP BACK UP! Oh, nevermind. Did you know Mario in every game he just jumps on stuff, collects stars, and kills turtles?
 
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vesperview said:
What facts? That Toad never had a game of his own unlike Luigi and Peach, that he's still nothing more to the Mario series than what a Moogle is to the Final Fantasy series? Seriously, you've been using lame comparisons to put Toad in a pedestal... it's pathetic.
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You're still dodging that little bit about Luigi and Peach never having a game of their own prior to melee. Your last argument rid on Peach's importance, in which I showed just how valuable she actually was in the games she was playable in and in the ones she wasnt before melee.
 
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Brawlmatt202 said:
She didn't AVOID your last response, she was just responding to someone else, God...:ohwell:
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.......She????

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You're still dodging that little bit about Luigi and Peach never having a game of their own prior to melee. Your last argument rid on Peach's importance, in which I showed just how valuable she actually was in the games she was playable in and in the ones she wasnt before melee.
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Peach being playable in Mario RPG is enough involvement in a game to make her an important character, plus, some of her moves derive from that game, and Luigi's Mansion came out before Melee even Mario is Missing came out before Melee, what's your point?
 
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Biggie Smalls said:
By the way, did you know that Krystal is just some british accented cat that wears barely any clothes and is just some weird addition to Starfox? Oh yes I did.
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If by "cat", you mean "person", then yes you are right. Krystal is normally considered a Fox. She could have been a cat, but wasn't.

She is definitely the most wierd addition to Star Fox. I'd have to agree with you there also and she is voiced by Alesia who does have a British accent.

Is this supposed to offend me? :confused:

If so just tell me and I'll whip up a generic mother joke for you.
 
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~Krystal~ said:
If by "cat", you mean "person", then yes you are right. Krystal is normally considered a Fox. She could have been a cat, but wasn't.

She is definitely the most wierd addition to Star Fox. I'd have to agree with you there also and she is voiced by Alesia who does have a British accent.

Is this supposed to offend me? :confused:

If so just tell me and I'll whip up a generic mother joke for you.
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...You're that clueless aren't you? What now, a "UR MOMMA" joke? You are ignorant. How does Peach contribute nothing to Mario Games? Her being kidnapped is the whole **** point of Mario games.


Besides, You call her a person and a fox. What the hell is it? If she's the weirdest addition, why would a troll like you have your avatar and sn with her on it?
 
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