To everyone that has missed a Smash Tournament due to responsibilities...

[Virgilijus]

I disagree (not with the above post, but two above); deceiving some one is more than just misinformation, it affects the personal relationship between people. For example, telling your girlfriend you go out every Friday night for bowling and it turns out you go to the movies with friends and she finds out, despite going bowling with friends and going to the movies with friends are equivalent in terms of social magnitude, the fact you felt the need to personally deceive her hurts your relationship.

Successful relationships (not just socially, but from a business perspective as well) depend on trust or else they splinter or dissolve. Lying is taking advantage of a trust you have earned over your experience with your friend/associate. If they are your friend, then a truth small enough to be covered by a white lie should not be a hindrance to your relationship. If the truth is too large and you need a large lie to act as a facade, then you need to look at yourself for getting into such a large, unfortunate truth. If you try to cover it, it's almost all risk and no reward; yes, you may momentarily move forward a step, but at the cost of completely destroying everything you earned over time to get to that point.

Children are predisposed to lie for this reason; they have not gained enough rationality through experience to comprehend the consequences of lying with the consequences of truth. They do not comprehend plans of action that benefit more in the long run than the short. It's an immature trait.

 

[Tom]

But Virgilijus, you're missing the point!

And remember, HONESTY to everyone that is not your superior at work or school. This is ONLY to get out of responsibilities.

See? The OP clearly states that lying is okay as long as it is only to shirk responsibilities! Friendships are almost as important as video games! Responsibilities are not. You shouldn't lie to those you care about, or those who are lesser than you, but you can lie to everyone else. Especially your superiors.

Which is good, because lying to your superiors is an absolute necessity. If you simply completed all the necessary work ahead of time, and let your professor know that you were going to be out of town for personal, recreational reasons, he would fail you for missing the class! And if you told your boss two weeks ahead of time that you wanted to take a specific weekend off, he would fire you!

Virg, I think you just don't get it.

 

[Rici]

Hey Jesiah, how is that pyramid scheme going for ya?

 

[Evil Eye]

I'm baffled by "no johns" being a rule when this is a guide to how to johns your way out of living your life like an adult.

By the way, no reputable workplace or university is going to accept "oh my car broke down" "oh I'm sick" again and again. Unless you're studying at a degree mill and work under the table for some place that is deadly afraid of the INS, I think you're flat-out lying about calling in once or twice a week, and everything you've mentioned about extensions for schoolwork.

I had a notable job a couple years ago. I was great at this job, the best in my department. I got (genuinely) sick a lot that year because I caught pneumonia that autumn and the cold weather combined with it to run my immune system ragged. They knew. They understood. They wanted me around. But they still fired me, because every professional workplace has a breaking point, and even with good standing, it's not going to be such that you can call in every week and get away with it.

My university demands absolute proof of all excuses that are actually viable for missing tests or extensions or anything else. Doctor's notes. Notes from your mechanic. Everything in between. I'm pretty sure this is a norm, and thus, pretty sure you are blatantly lying.

I won't comment on "level four" excuses, because anyone who lies about that pretty much deserves to be hit by a large vehicle, though I wouldn't be surprised if teachers/employers didn't have the balls to call you on a bluff.

 

[Albert.]

But...

Everybody lies.

 

[Crimson King]

Karma got you bad.

Also, when you wrote "I can pick up extra shifts," I knew you were definitely not talking about real jobs. I work full-time every day, and while they've been pretty awesome with accommodating my surgery, I have had to produce notes to get paid. Since I like to get paid, and I'd like to get a raise in a year, I'll play their game.

If you are going to live your life ignoring "responsibilities," then enjoy never growing up and being a joke.

This thread, even as a joke, is insidious because people are actually defending the mentality.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I lol'ed hard.

 

[Albert.]

Are y'alls overbearing morals KEEPING YOU HAVING fun at night?! I think not.

 

[Crimson King]

Wouldn't the phrase Everybody Lies be a lie in itself?

 

[ranmaru]

Calling in sick and being late actually got me denied from RE-GETTING the job.

 

[JesiahTEG]

I remember some kid at high school said that he skip classes bcuz his mom was paraplegic and he had to help her... the other day the mother came to the classroom... WALKING! ROFL everyone in the classroom was mad serious except me and some guys at the back that were laughing so hard while his mother was ****** him(hitting) so hard in front of all the students! jajajajja it was hillarious.

lolllll owned

 

[Rappster]

Wouldn't the phrase Everybody Lies be a lie in itself?

only if the phrase was "everybody lies all the time"
as is, i think its fine.
but you shouldn't believe me: everything i say is a lie

 

[ranmaru]

You can't trust everyone.

 

[Muk Man]

EPIC!
Seventeen

 

[Teran]

This should be renamed the guide to amateurish deceit.

Besides, a thing that's FAR EASIER than lying is not putting yourself into the position where you have to. If you lie pathologically, you're a waste of space.

 

[eighteenspikes]

lol just wanna pop in and say red and gray names have some excellent posts in this thread. peace

 

[SOVAman]

lol just wanna pop in and say red and gray names have some excellent posts in this thread. peace

Good stuff, **** riding so hard

 

[Tokyoinamerica]

Ha, funny.

Kinda ****ed up, but good.

 

[Twin_A]

I won't lie, my bro and I have done most of these before and we're both very good at them. Those excuses seem almost universal actually.

However, using them too often can hurt you because you become like the boy who cried wolf. As well Karma may come back and bite you.

And although I can see how this would help you in some situations, what if you have bills to pay and can't afford to miss work? Or you're in your final few semesters in college and can't afford to miss class? The long run is more important than the short term.

(mind you I didn't read it all because I have to get back to homework )

And if you're going to lie about the death in the family, I recommend making someone up. Or say that you're going to visit a relative in another state. My twin and I have gotten 3 weekends off of work so we could go visit our Grandpa Buck in Arizona. A few childhood stories in the months prior to set up for it and we were gold. We don't have a Grandpa Buck XP

 

[Ocean]

 

[kr3wman]

Man as soon as Virgilijus posted this thread went downhill.

 

[yummynbeefy]

this cant be serious can it?

 

[da K.I.D.]

its very serious.

 

[ranmaru]

my friend got fired for being tardy 9 times lol

 

[Siglemic]

this thread is so ********

 

[[TSON]]

good read obv

 

[SpongeJordan]

I read it all. Of course he's not talking about corporate jobs. If he were, then he wouldn't be saying it all on Smashboards. Competitive gaming isn't exactly something you can juggle with a salary-based job.

 

[Ocean]

I read it all. Of course he's not talking about corporate jobs. If he were, then he wouldn't be saying it all on Smashboards. Competitive gaming isn't exactly something you can juggle with a salary-based job.

yes it is. we have someone in NC who works a nine to five and still makes it to pretty much every tournament in the state, and goes oos a lot.

 

[ranmaru]

yes it is. we have someone in NC who works a nine to five and still makes it to pretty much every tournament in the state, and goes oos a lot.

I guess it depends on what job you have and how much lee way with scheduling your managers can give you?

 

[Ocean]

I guess it depends on what job you have and how much lee way with scheduling your managers can give you?

he works at a credit union, and he just asks off way in advance.

 

[Life]

This thread depresses me.

If you want to lie (especially about family members being sick/hospitalized/etc.) just to get to a smash tournament you are doing it wrong.

The key instead is to make yourself valuable enough to your employer that you can take a weekend off on occasion--basically, even though you take a day or two off now and then, you still end up doing much more work in your fortyish hours than any other random person they could hire in your place. Make it a good business decision to keep you, and they'll keep you.

Alternatively, get employed at your local tournament venue. Problem solved

 

[RTF]

Willingness to lie tells a lot about one's character and what they value. While "wrong" and "right" are subjective, I find lying unnecessary because there are viable alternatives.

 

[Spamus43]

Ahh, but that right there implies that you do find lying to be wrong. Otherwise, why not say "I find alternatives unnecessary because lying is viable?"

 

[RTF]

Ahh, but that right there implies that you do find lying to be wrong. Otherwise, why not say "I find alternatives unnecessary because lying is viable?"

Obviously. And I don't use that word often. If using [opinion] tags would help you, feel free to ask.

See:

"wrong" and "right" are subjective

I certainly would lie to save my life. Who wouldn't do that?

Spoiler

A: dead mother ****ers, that's who.

Deontology is only a part of my decision making.

 

[Seikishidan Soru]

Heh. As long as you can handle the consequences, do what you think you need to do, I guess.