@July: I wouldn't say time travel is part of the old Star Trek at all. ONE episode that I remember dealt with time travel to the '50s on Earth. That's ONE episode whereas the ENTIRE 2009 movie was about time travel -- see what I'm saying here?
Not so much, I haven't watched it much but I know there is a lot more time travel than just one episode. So I looked it up.
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Time_travel_episodes
Zen: Do you know if Ran was already viewing the thread when you fakeclaimed at him? There was 23 minutes between you claiming guilty and him responding
@July: If Ran was reading but still took 23 mins to reply, would that in any way change where you stand on Ran?
I actually was on aim before this all went down, and Carlos logged off aim a little before 2:30 am to get a snack. When Zen claimed it was only a little bit after that and I know I was online until 2:45 and Ran still wasn't back, so I assumed he was off the comp for the night and got some sleep. I obviously see that was not the case as **** hit the fan like 15 minutes later, but by the time he got back online and read the thread it couldn't have been more than 10 minutes before he posted. SO...no, it doesn't change my read at all. ALSO my read is based on his entire play, ya'll asked me to get a read on him and now no one cares but I'm telling you I am confident that this is town Ran play.
July: What is your read on Nabe and Us? If you gave explanation somewhere else I'll find it in my read through, if not give me some brief reasons now please
Nabe is leaning town for me. By far Nabe has been one of the more rational players this game and he's been asking questions, following up on them, using them to establish reads and I remember him addressing Nich and his case on him really well. No red flags from him, definitely would not lynch him.
Videogames.jpg I am null on. I had videogames leaning town until the vote on Ran because they are afraid he might misuse his power, because they don't seem to believe he is scum so they are willing to accept a mislynch anyways. Since then I feel like videogames has been going along with the flow against Ran/KK/me, and I don't particularly find it genuine. Still, early game I liked, and I've really been getting mixed reads between posts, some town intent behind it and some that could be scummy, so null but IGMEOY.
@July: why during early game did you take 3 walls to respond to a simple accusation from Ran?
@July: Do MS games use QTs for scummates to communicate?
Because he asked me questions that had like 5 parts and that knowing him he wouldn't let up on until I explained everything no matter how pointless I thought it was. I don't think it was excessive at that time...I have posted a lot of walls because I have to catch up every time I'm away from the comp for more than 4 hours ;-;
Yes, they do have QTs but if I'm right for most games only Night talk is allowed in scum QTs.
Ran is my top pick atm. Asks pointless questions (what PLSD thought of Zen, when neither had even read the game), reacts very poorly (seems fake) to the daycop gambit, including a claim whose timing suggests it's a safe claim and a call for a call for a Zen claim. His role is provable, but nothing guarantees that it is not scum. Seems to be ignoring my question about the use of his night action too. Wonder if he'll answer it now.
KK is probs my next pick. He's been challenging everyone to show why he is scum, claiming that nobody has done so, when in reality he is just dismissing every point against him as stupid. 1647, 1649 is a prime example - he just calls every point BS and calls people stupid and flat out wrong. His case on me is full of misrepresentation and reaching (1414 - in talking about Ryker he quotes me but leaves out literally the most important word in the quote and attacks his strawman instead). He calls me out for shallow reads (one of the main pillars of his case), based on who agrees with me, and then when asked about his reasoning on July, he gives in 1629 that he agrees with what she has to say and that he sees town intent, which no deeper than the reasoning for my reads.
July is next scum pick. It felt very off that she brought up the time travel suggestion as a way of dealing with Ran. Just felt like wild speculation and I'm not sure what to make of it. More importantly, she has been on DG hard this whole game. Nothing wrong with staying hard on your scumpick, but I feel that she is using it as an excuse to avoid providing stances on other players. She mentions that she thinks I'm town in 565, and I don't get mentioned again until I jump to a top three scum pick in 1132, where she is directly asked for her reads. She says it's because I haven't been "digging in and providing content", the only questions I got from her were requests for clarification. I felt absolutely no pressure from July. Her other pick here is PLSD, who was an easy pick to list.
I have not avoided taking stances on other players. I haven't posted them in a list yet but if I need to I can:
Town
KK
Ran
Zen
Nich
Leaning town
Nabe
Swiss
Reyth
(None of the above would I be willing to lynch toDay)
Null
SK
Videogames.jpg
Leaning scum
PLSD
T-Block
Scum
DeGrey
Any of these I would be willing to lynch except SK, simply because I liked what little activity I've seen from SK but that read is outdated because he hasn't posted any content relating to the current events in thread.
T-Block, I know it didn't seem like much to you but my read on your one post that I asked questions about and wanted clarification for was very important to my read of you. Your reads were shaky and your read on DeGrey in particular was convoluted. KK's case on you was spot on, he made a lot of good points and I trust his read on you and his interpretation of your motivations which I struggled with myself over whether my read was legit or influenced by expectations from Pizza mafia.
@T-Block, if Ran was lynched and flipped town, how would it affect your reads? If he was lynched and flipped scum?
