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More distance as in you slide more? Cause then that makes sense (basically just a boost grab but apparently you can do it backwards). If it's more grab range (which was what I thought some of the Zard mains meant but not sure), then I'm confused as to why that'd happen. I take it that's not the case?
You just slide more, I think. There are people on this forum who are more qualified to answer this (but I think I'm right)
Misunderstood as in being the most pathetic excuse of a balanced character.
Olimar is a person that has feelings, you know.
There's this nice commercial that perfectly describes Olimar in PM.
well it outranges there grabs about 2 frames after they get max range, it also has faster startup and very small endlag for a fking tether grab@steelguttey That might be the furthest distance, but it also takes time to travel to that distance rather than being at max range frame 7.
this only really happens if i get hit with a janky projectile on a max range grab
you dont need to say imo, we know its an opinion. if it is not a fact, then it is an opinion, and we know it is.
Except that's not even close to being true. Olimar's pivot grab comes out frame 11 and travels pretty slow. I just tested it and it gets to Zard range at about frame 16 or 17 (hard to tell exactly). Zard's pivot grab comes out frame 10 to compare. The Olimars I faced tend to throw this out a lot and you can literally out run it if you predict it, and it costs him a good bit of space when he misses cause the opponent isn't far (meaning your dash dance center has effectively moved closer to the ledge).
I have hit Olimar a good number of times when been getting grabbed and gotten away. It's not a huge factor since it's just a tie breaker, but it happens (with or w/o projectiles).
Dthrow is too good man
Yea jokes aside, taking into account active frames, amount of end lag, distance, and the followups that are netted off of getting the grab, Yoshi's pivot grab is easily one of the scariest
yea, he does.
plz set him str8
I got seasick from watching this video.
I was extremely disgusted by those combos, zero to deaths for hitting their shield, pmbr pls
Time to learn how to play lucario
really tho
But everyone knows how because PMDT told us to just hold ledge and GG
No it isn't. Pikmin outrange and go through all of squirtle's armor, side b does not stuff pivot grab or ANY grab for tha matter, and olimar has crazy ass folow ups on all throws/hits on Squirtle. You're doing it wrong
D-throw into fair? Not Up-throw?
I have lost games because of grab breaking from trading with a nair, it's not just projectiles. It's everything. His grab needs work, it's jank as hell and doesn't belong in this game.
edit your aavy so i can see this tail
it's funny because it's actually a butt
She has insanely good matchups against the spacies - going even with them in melee and thus almost certainly beating them 55:45 or 60:40 in PM due to their nerfs and her significant buffs. The ice mode makes her much more resilient in [floaty] matchups that used to give her endless numbers of problems, and she ends up only having a couple truly terrible matchups (ROB, Mario, maybe Ivysaur and/or Mewtwo) - probably in that order) while being an extremely tough nut to crack for most of the cast.
