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Tier List Speculation
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PastLink
Smash Journeyman
lol@Fox and Falco being the hardest ones to use.
PastLink
Smash Journeyman
Right, I just know they require alot of tech skill to be good. where would they be better placed in your opinion?
EDIT: honestly i was unsure with all the melee gods because i've only ever really seen videos. the only match up experience with one is falco, i got a friend who's been playing competetively for awhile who uses him. but either way, i haven't seen a gross amount of videos, just some.
PastLink
Smash Journeyman
stupid freakin. ignore this.
Depends. If the list assumes that you already know wavedashing/wavedashing isn't hard for you, then the spacies are pretty low on the list.
Alfonzo Bagpipez
Smash Lord
A lot of tech skill isn't necessarily required to be "good". When people say they are hard to play as, they mean it's hard to play at their peak performance.
PastLink
Smash Journeyman
good points, good points. what about the others?
Yung Mei
Where all da hot anime moms at
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GeZ
Smash Lord
Yeah, seriously? G Dubs makes half the cast think they were fighting with training gloves while his are weighted with the souls of the damned. Needless to say he hits like a 2D truck.
PastLink
Smash Journeyman
sorry, not much experience with him, I didn't quite know where to put him. But I didn't know he dished out that much damage
GeZ
Smash Lord
No harm no foul dawg. I'm just sayin I've made my friend who's a Ganon main double take and weep internally.
Pwnz0rz Man
Smash Lord
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Why is Sheik by hard to use?
Why are people getting hit by GnW usmash?
Questions I don't think the world is ready to answer.
Why are people getting hit by GnW usmash?
Questions I don't think the world is ready to answer.
PastLink
Smash Journeyman
so I've been wondering, DACUS was easy in brawl. I didn't even know about the gatling combos till now. but when i try to dacus now i can't seem to get it with anybody. how does one dacus in PM? is there a specific time frame?
ganon's is pretty simple to use, the timing isn't all that bad. i hear gnw and lucas have the hardest timing, though?
PastLink
Smash Journeyman
aaah i gotcha, I remember reading from the statistics thread some characters don't even have a DACUS (like TL...)
Oro?!
Smash Hero
Marth/Roy/Wolf I believe have the hardest DACUS timings. GnW is pretty hard, or rather awkward. Lucas has it pretty easy though.
DACUS is based off of characters jump squat and some acceleration from dash attacks I believe. Someone like Standardtoaster knows more tbh.
DACUS is based off of characters jump squat and some acceleration from dash attacks I believe. Someone like Standardtoaster knows more tbh.
Burnsy
Smash Lord
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think GnW and Lucas have the same timing. 1 frame if you use a grab input and 2 frames if you use an attack input.
Either way, even the more difficult DACUS like Roy and Marths are not nearly as difficult as something like Melee Samus SWD, for example.
Either way, even the more difficult DACUS like Roy and Marths are not nearly as difficult as something like Melee Samus SWD, for example.
GeZ
Smash Lord
M2K has interesting views of character ability. I don't think that Ivysaur is a push over, really she is quite strong, but the strongest is a bit much. M2K has voiced before that he thinks Shiek is bad in P:M and thought Bowser was really high tier at one point. He's a good player, just with some weird opinions that should be taken with some salt shakers.
GeZ
Smash Lord
Shiek is still top 5 materiel easily. I haven't heard a convincing argument against that. She was balanced a bit more but still thrashes in this game. And Bowser is awesome, yes, I even mained him at one point, but he's not top tier, nor close. He has some really ****ty match ups and it takes a really amazing player to make King Koopa shine.
GeZ
Smash Lord
That doesn't... I just... How... Reread your writing and try again. Please.
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Guest
No way Ivysaur is the best character in 2.6b. I wouldn't even put her in the top 5, although she is in my top 10. A lot of her moves are getting change-nerfed, however, because she had some obnoxiously good tools and didn't leave much room for creativite play.
Sheik is still terrific in PM. I sincerely do not understand why he thinks otherwise, and I don't understand what you mean when you say she's "outdone by other characters." Who "oudoes" her? In what ways?
Sheik is still terrific in PM. I sincerely do not understand why he thinks otherwise, and I don't understand what you mean when you say she's "outdone by other characters." Who "oudoes" her? In what ways?
GeZ
Smash Lord
I'm still a bit shaky on their being anything to get. You want to run what you meant past me in more words?
Also, this.
GeZ
Smash Lord
I was thinking you might have meant that, but you see, top 5 is a fairly straightforward phrase, usually referring very literally to the top 5 of something. So saying that at least half of them are in the top 5 doesn't make any logical, grammatical, or literal sense, nor is it ironic.
It's just an unfortunate choice of words.
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
i wouldn't say i'd know enough to place ivy anywhere other than just say high to top, but i think it's fair to say she has a toxic play style PMBR is willing to change to get rid of
like, give marth a top 3 projectile and another really good one, but with bad movement
that's ivy
like, give marth a top 3 projectile and another really good one, but with bad movement
that's ivy
Yes it does. Just imagine a ranking with a lot of equally ranked competitors. So you got like 25 competitors ranked 1st and then the list proceeds with 26th, 27th, 27th, 27th, 30th, ...
However, that's just the improbable theory behind my apparently provocative post and shouldn't be the topic here.
Well, if you disagree with M2K I am rather curious to hear about your personal opinion.
What do you consider to be the strongest overall character in 2.6b?
However, that's just the improbable theory behind my apparently provocative post and shouldn't be the topic here.
Well, if you disagree with M2K I am rather curious to hear about your personal opinion.
What do you consider to be the strongest overall character in 2.6b?
MrBigstuff
Smash Apprentice
I think he was being ironic and using hyperbole to say that most of the cast is really flippin' good.
GeZ
Smash Lord
That's hyperbole. Not irony. Even then it's loose hyperbole. There are just so many better words to use man. I love words. There are so many better ones than what you chose.
I really don't see the point in you trying to tell me what kind of words I am supposed to use.
I personally like the word "irony" in that context just as good as "hyperbole" and don't see any reason why anyone should be bothered enough to tell me not to do.
I personally like the word "irony" in that context just as good as "hyperbole" and don't see any reason why anyone should be bothered enough to tell me not to do.
GeZ
Smash Lord
God jesus. Okay. It's nothing personal, I just don't like bad writing. It's a pet peeve. It flips my wig. So i'll just steer clear of your posts.