Theytah's Mod School!

[iSnowden]

@ Ryztiq , do you know how to remove stages from the stage screen or could direct me to a guide that shows you how to do it? I'm having trouble finding a guide.

 

[NhgrtPlayer]

@ I iSnowden I'm not Theytah, but I can answer : http://smashboards.com/threads/proj...ensive-tutorial-and-sample-stagelists.382890/

@ Ryztiq Hi buddy, I've got a question if you don't mind. I want to change your Chill Room for Project M 3.5 (Anyone interested : http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=35636), so I changed MiscData[160] in your STGRESULT.pac with the current STGRESULT.pac (of Vanilla PM 3.5), no problem (same for CSPs, even if I want to use CI8 but it crashes), I got all the new texts, but when I want to change MiscData[120] for Stocks Icons (I got also a modified StockFaceTex in pf\menu\common with the icons I want) the game crashes right before entering the Result Screen. Any idea how I can fix that or how can I change effectively your Room please ? Ty ^^

 

[Ryztiq]

@ I iSnowden I'm not Theytah, but I can answer : http://smashboards.com/threads/proj...ensive-tutorial-and-sample-stagelists.382890/

@ Ryztiq Hi buddy, I've got a question if you don't mind. I want to change your Chill Room for Project M 3.5 (Anyone interested : http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=35636), so I changed MiscData[160] in your STGRESULT.pac with the current STGRESULT.pac (of Vanilla PM 3.5), no problem (same for CSPs, even if I want to use CI8 but it crashes), I got all the new texts, but when I want to change MiscData[120] for Stocks Icons (I got also a modified StockFaceTex in pf\menu\common with the icons I want) the game crashes right before entering the Result Screen. Any idea how I can fix that or how can I change effectively your Room please ? Ty ^^

When updating the miscdata120 you also need to update a PAT0 animation inside one of the modeldatas cause that's how it displays the stocks correctly

 

[NhgrtPlayer]

Thank you for the answer, I started looking for it ("WorldInsideIchigo" ? Really ? xD), but I don't want to modify anything that could cause a freeze beside my stock icons. Do you have any precise location please ?

 

[JCOnyx]

Alright, it's been a while since I dropped by here. I was waiting till 3.6 dropped to continue working on my custom build, but I decided I'll try learning something that's always puzzled me while I have the time.

I want to change the order costumes show up when scrolling through on the CSS, specifically in a way where all the team colors always show up right after the default costume. So in other words along the lines of Mewtwo where it's Default - Green - Red - Blue - etc. I'm personally going to arrange every character's costumes as Default - Red - Blue - Green though for reason's you'll probably understand later in my post. Any character that has a Default as a team color would follow along the lines of Yoshi/Link though, where it goes like Green - Red - Blue - etc.

I've come across some codes which I believe are my answers (sort of...) and everything is assigned to each character individually. I'll post them down below in a tab real quick:

Spoiler

Color Slot Modifiers:
(Credit to Dantarion who recorded all the data pointers for these codes.)

Mario
064551E8 00000010
00000906 01030204
08050302 0C000000

Donkey
064551F8 00000010
07000804 00010103
03020905 0C000000

Link
06455208 00000010
03000001 01030905
02060804 0C000000

Samus
06455218 00000010
02000103 00010805
04040302 0C000000

Zerosuit Samus
06455228 00000010
05000103 00010805
04040302 0C000000

Yoshi
06455238 00000010
03000001 01030204
06050506 0C000000

Kirby
06455248 00000010
06000204 01030001
03020905 0C000000

Fox
06455258 00000010
07000804 00010302
01030905 0C000000

Pikachu
06455268 0000000C
02000001 03020103
0C000000 00000000

Luigi
06455274 00000010
03000A05 00010103
0B040406 0C000000

Captain Falcon
06455284 00000010
05000804 00010302
01030605 0C000000

Ness
06455294 00000010
00000905 02040302
01030806 0C000000

Bowser
064552A4 00000010
03000804 00010103
09050706 0C000000

Peach
064552B4 00000010
06000A05 00010103
03020904 0C000000

Zelda
064552C4 00000010
09000001 01030405
03020804 0C000000

Sheik
064552D4 00000010
09000001 01030405
03020804 0C000000

Ice Climbers
064552E4 00000010
04000001 01030804
03020905 0C000000

Marth
064552F4 00000010
05000001 03020804
09050103 0C000000

Mr. Game & Watch
06455304 00000010
08000001 02040103
03020505 0C000000

Falco
06455314 00000010
09000A05 01030001
03020804 0C000000

Ganondorf
06455324 00000010
04000804 01030302
00010705 0C000000

Wario
06455334 0000001C
05000001 02050302
08040103 02060007
01090308 070A090B
0C000000 00000000

Metaknight
06455350 00000010
04000904 00010302
01030605 0C000000

Pit
06455360 00000010
09000204 00010302
01030805 0C000000

Olimar
06455370 00000010
02000904 00010805
03020103 0C000000

Lucas
06455380 00000010
02000704 00010103
03020405 0C000000

Diddy
06455390 00000010
00000205 06040406
03020103 0C000000

Pokemon Trainer
064553A0 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Charizard
064553AC 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Squirtle
064553B8 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Ivysaur
064553C4 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Dedede
064553D0 00000010
00000606 03020405
01030704 0C000000

Lucario
064553E0 0000000C
01000001 05040905
03020C00 00000000

Ike
064553EC 00000010
05000205 00010103
03020704 0C000000

Rob
064553FC 00000010
00000906 02050604
01030302 0C000000

Jigglypuff
0645540C 0000000C
06000001 09040103
03020C00 00000000

Toon Link
06455418 00000010
03000001 01030404
07050806 0C000000

Wolf
06455428 00000010
0B000001 08040302
01030905 0C000000

Snake
06455438 00000010
05000001 01030904
03020705 0C000000

Sonic
06455448 0000000C
01000805 02040302
00010C00 00000000

Everything seems to be assigned in this format:

X1Y1X2Y2 X3Y3X4Y4
X = Color
Y = .pac file used
1.2.3.4 = Respective slot it shows up as on the CSS

Color Associations: (XX)
00 Team Red
01 Team Blue
02 Yellow
03 Team Green
04 Purple
05 Blue
06 Pink
07 Brown
08 Black
09 White
0A Unused
0B Unused
0C List Terminator




Now the issue I'm having, is that searching for these within the PM 3.5 codes has been turning up zero results, but I did find what I believe to be Yoshi's costume slot arrangements within the 3.5's code:

06586184 00000018
03000001 01030204
06050506 07070808
09090A0A 0C000000

As you can see, the first line is quite different from the one inside the tab above. I'm assuming that the characters respective placings within the data or whatnot have somehow changed in 3.5 or something to where it doesn't match up quite exactly with old Brawl codes, which will make finding everything quite difficult... What leads me to believe that this is Yoshi's color assignments is the way the colors are arranged:

Team Green - Team Red - Team Blue - Yellow - Pink - Blue (Teal)

These happen to follow along exactly to Yoshi's first colors on the CSS and 10 slots have been designated in the code, which is how many costumes Yoshi has total in PM.

Now if my assumption was correct and this code is in fact for Yoshi's color slots, am I correct in assuming that I'll be able to find the rest of the cast's color slot arrangements through the same trial and error as I have for Yoshi? And after changing everything I'm assuming I'll have to modify all the BPs, Icons, CSS pics, etc within the common.5 and everything else to where it matches up correctly again. Or is this entire endeavor for naught and I should just give up.

Or better yet, does anyone have the current/up to date costume slot modifier code for PM? It would be much appreciated.

Sorry for the mega post lol

 

[Ryztiq]

Alright, it's been a while since I dropped by here. I was waiting till 3.6 dropped to continue working on my custom build, but I decided I'll try learning something that's always puzzled me while I have the time.

I want to change the order costumes show up when scrolling through on the CSS, specifically in a way where all the team colors always show up right after the default costume. So in other words along the lines of Mewtwo where it's Default - Green - Red - Blue - etc. I'm personally going to arrange every character's costumes as Default - Red - Blue - Green though for reason's you'll probably understand later in my post. Any character that has a Default as a team color would follow along the lines of Yoshi/Link though, where it goes like Green - Red - Blue - etc.

I've come across some codes which I believe are my answers (sort of...) and everything is assigned to each character individually. I'll post them down below in a tab real quick:

Spoiler

Color Slot Modifiers:
(Credit to Dantarion who recorded all the data pointers for these codes.)

Mario
064551E8 00000010
00000906 01030204
08050302 0C000000

Donkey
064551F8 00000010
07000804 00010103
03020905 0C000000

Link
06455208 00000010
03000001 01030905
02060804 0C000000

Samus
06455218 00000010
02000103 00010805
04040302 0C000000

Zerosuit Samus
06455228 00000010
05000103 00010805
04040302 0C000000

Yoshi
06455238 00000010
03000001 01030204
06050506 0C000000

Kirby
06455248 00000010
06000204 01030001
03020905 0C000000

Fox
06455258 00000010
07000804 00010302
01030905 0C000000

Pikachu
06455268 0000000C
02000001 03020103
0C000000 00000000

Luigi
06455274 00000010
03000A05 00010103
0B040406 0C000000

Captain Falcon
06455284 00000010
05000804 00010302
01030605 0C000000

Ness
06455294 00000010
00000905 02040302
01030806 0C000000

Bowser
064552A4 00000010
03000804 00010103
09050706 0C000000

Peach
064552B4 00000010
06000A05 00010103
03020904 0C000000

Zelda
064552C4 00000010
09000001 01030405
03020804 0C000000

Sheik
064552D4 00000010
09000001 01030405
03020804 0C000000

Ice Climbers
064552E4 00000010
04000001 01030804
03020905 0C000000

Marth
064552F4 00000010
05000001 03020804
09050103 0C000000

Mr. Game & Watch
06455304 00000010
08000001 02040103
03020505 0C000000

Falco
06455314 00000010
09000A05 01030001
03020804 0C000000

Ganondorf
06455324 00000010
04000804 01030302
00010705 0C000000

Wario
06455334 0000001C
05000001 02050302
08040103 02060007
01090308 070A090B
0C000000 00000000

Metaknight
06455350 00000010
04000904 00010302
01030605 0C000000

Pit
06455360 00000010
09000204 00010302
01030805 0C000000

Olimar
06455370 00000010
02000904 00010805
03020103 0C000000

Lucas
06455380 00000010
02000704 00010103
03020405 0C000000

Diddy
06455390 00000010
00000205 06040406
03020103 0C000000

Pokemon Trainer
064553A0 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Charizard
064553AC 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Squirtle
064553B8 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Ivysaur
064553C4 0000000C
02000001 03020103
07040C00 00000000

Dedede
064553D0 00000010
00000606 03020405
01030704 0C000000

Lucario
064553E0 0000000C
01000001 05040905
03020C00 00000000

Ike
064553EC 00000010
05000205 00010103
03020704 0C000000

Rob
064553FC 00000010
00000906 02050604
01030302 0C000000

Jigglypuff
0645540C 0000000C
06000001 09040103
03020C00 00000000

Toon Link
06455418 00000010
03000001 01030404
07050806 0C000000

Wolf
06455428 00000010
0B000001 08040302
01030905 0C000000

Snake
06455438 00000010
05000001 01030904
03020705 0C000000

Sonic
06455448 0000000C
01000805 02040302
00010C00 00000000

Everything seems to be assigned in this format:

X1Y1X2Y2 X3Y3X4Y4
X = Color
Y = .pac file used
1.2.3.4 = Respective slot it shows up as on the CSS

Color Associations: (XX)
00 Team Red
01 Team Blue
02 Yellow
03 Team Green
04 Purple
05 Blue
06 Pink
07 Brown
08 Black
09 White
0A Unused
0B Unused
0C List Terminator




Now the issue I'm having, is that searching for these within the PM 3.5 codes has been turning up zero results, but I did find what I believe to be Yoshi's costume slot arrangements within the 3.5's code:

06586184 00000018
03000001 01030204
06050506 07070808
09090A0A 0C000000

As you can see, the first line is quite different from the one inside the tab above. I'm assuming that the characters respective placings within the data or whatnot have somehow changed in 3.5 or something to where it doesn't match up quite exactly with old Brawl codes, which will make finding everything quite difficult... What leads me to believe that this is Yoshi's color assignments is the way the colors are arranged:

Team Green - Team Red - Team Blue - Yellow - Pink - Blue (Teal)

These happen to follow along exactly to Yoshi's first colors on the CSS and 10 slots have been designated in the code, which is how many costumes Yoshi has total in PM.

Now if my assumption was correct and this code is in fact for Yoshi's color slots, am I correct in assuming that I'll be able to find the rest of the cast's color slot arrangements through the same trial and error as I have for Yoshi? And after changing everything I'm assuming I'll have to modify all the BPs, Icons, CSS pics, etc within the common.5 and everything else to where it matches up correctly again. Or is this entire endeavor for naught and I should just give up.

Or better yet, does anyone have the current/up to date costume slot modifier code for PM? It would be much appreciated.

Sorry for the mega post lol

no idea dude, I dont do code

 

[JCOnyx]

Aw well that sucks

Happen to have any idea who I can go to with this question? I'll experiment with it myself the next couple days and see if I can find anything, but I hate changing code like that without a direction.

 

[forbidden12]

How do i resize the character select screen icons so the characters pictures can fit or should i resize the pictures in gimp?

 

[Ryztiq]

Aw well that sucks

Happen to have any idea who I can go to with this question? I'll experiment with it myself the next couple days and see if I can find anything, but I hate changing code like that without a direction.

mewtwo2000 knows about the color codes.

How do i resize the character select screen icons so the characters pictures can fit or should i resize the pictures in gimp?

resizing in gimp would work fine

 

[Mewtwo_2000]

I've come across some codes which I believe are my answers (sort of...) and everything is assigned to each character individually. I'll post them down below in a tab real quick:

Hi. You're absolutely right about all of it. The fact is that there's not a single costume code in pm, it's like split in parts, and it's hard to edit if you don't have the txt file with all the information. Well, it's possible to do, as you found that one (yoshi I suppose, didn't check), but some codes include only the extra costumes, while still reading the original offset for the rest of costumes, and stuff like that.

Following the idea of 'cBliss', a costume expansion code somebody made with the info Dantarion left in his wiki, I made some codes that put together in a single code all the costumes so they can be edited more easily, and I made a tool to handle it all. That's the cBliss Tool, which would change the memory placement for all costumes in PM to mine, making them really easy to edit, specially with your current knowledge. As I told you via facebook, cBliss Tool is outdated, doesn't work well with 3.5, and the plan is releasing the new one after 3.6.

If you send me the gct file of your custom build, I'll make it use my codes, so you'll be able to edit your slots easily, without the need to wait for me to release the next version of the tool.

 

[NhgrtPlayer]

Hi, small question here : What is the best version of 3DS Max for modeling ?

 

[JCOnyx]

If you send me the gct file of your custom build, I'll make it use my codes, so you'll be able to edit your slots easily, without the need to wait for me to release the next version of the tool.

Thanks so much. I'm currently working a long shift and have an extremely busy week this week, but should be able to send you my gct file sometime tonight. I don't think I have any modifications on it besides some brstm volume changes, so it should be pretty close to the base 3.5 gct.

 

[sinistersnakesennin]

Thanks so much. I'm currently working a long shift and have an extremely busy week this week, but should be able to send you my gct file sometime tonight. I don't think I have any modifications on it besides some brstm volume changes, so it should be pretty close to the base 3.5 gct.

Wow, I cant believe I stumbled in here on a whim and found somebody not only asking the same question I asked 2 weeks ago, but some legit responses to it as well. I have my costumes arranged specifically and PM always screws it up. so if I finish my build before 3.6 (unlikely) I'll need that new tool Mewtwo2000

 

[Ryztiq]

Made a nice little guide on texture formats, hope it helps!

 

[Dracrius]

*edit* solved before anyone replied

 

[Dracrius]

What do I have to do to get multi part levels to load properly in custom slots? I've got everything for my SSS but every time I try and start Poke Floats 2 dolphin freezes! Its ment to replace final destination and comes in 2 parts STGPOKEFLOATS2DAYTIME.pac and STGPOKEFLOATS2NIGHTTIME.PAC which I renamed stgcutom01_01.pac and stgcutom01_02.pac like other multi part levels. I even tried just one to see if it would work, but I can't find instructions for these kind of levels anywhere!

 

[Ryztiq]

What do I have to do to get multi part levels to load properly in custom slots? I've got everything for my SSS but every time I try and start Poke Floats 2 dolphin freezes! Its ment to replace final destination and comes in 2 parts STGPOKEFLOATS2DAYTIME.pac and STGPOKEFLOATS2NIGHTTIME.PAC which I renamed stgcutom01_01.pac and stgcutom01_02.pac like other multi part levels. I even tried just one to see if it would work, but I can't find instructions for these kind of levels anywhere!

you need to use the correct .rel file for a stage, they need to be paired. look on kcmm or lakora for the rel porter.

 

[sporksparks]

Hey, Theytah, how do you import a texture into a character that didn't have one in the first place (like adding a sleeve to Roy's arm) and attaching it to the model?

 

[Ryztiq]

Hey, Theytah, how do you import a texture into a character that didn't have one in the first place (like adding a sleeve to Roy's arm) and attaching it to the model?

Thats not a texture, it's a model. and youd have to edit the model in 3ds max or a similar program, i'll try to make a tutorial on that either today or monday

 

[sporksparks]

Thats not a texture, it's a model. and youd have to edit the model in 3ds max or a similar program, i'll try to make a tutorial on that either today or monday

Oh, that makes sense, thanks!

 

[MFMAXY]

i've changed collisions and swapped models/textures of other stages in brawlbox, but that's about all the experience I've had with stage creation

ive been planning to make a stage using this model from melee (http://i.imgur.com/xOUOjax.jpg), which has not been ripped, model or texturewise.

how do I rip the level/texture? how do I remove everything but the part of the stage I want?(http://i.imgur.com/5R0VoSE.jpg) and how do I import that ripped model and texture into brawlbox??

 

[Dracrius]

you need to use the correct .rel file for a stage, they need to be paired. look on kcmm or lakora for the rel porter.

Thank you sooooo much! you should really add this info to the main post! I spent forever trying to figure that out and no guides really mention the rel converter!! Any chance you know what causes the black blob shape behind the GO! txt and the begining of a match? I've been trying to change it and the texture seems to go in front of some black shape that looks like it was meant to be a backdrop for the original GO! texture. I'd also like to know what you changed to stop the line from showing underneath the character Pic and Damage during a match (in theytah's build) because the textures still there so you disabled it some how and I'd like to re enable it and move the Timer from the center to the left!

 

[Ryztiq]

i've changed collisions and swapped models/textures of other stages in brawlbox, but that's about all the experience I've had with stage creation

ive been planning to make a stage using this model from melee (http://i.imgur.com/xOUOjax.jpg), which has not been ripped, model or texturewise.

how do I rip the level/texture? how do I remove everything but the part of the stage I want?(http://i.imgur.com/5R0VoSE.jpg) and how do I import that ripped model and texture into brawlbox??

Youd need to use a ripping program and then delete extra stuff in 3ds max or something. ninjaripper is a good ripping program.

Also sorry about the reddit reply my friend messed with my account

 

[MFMAXY]

Youd need to use a ripping program and then delete extra stuff in 3ds max or something. ninjaripper is a good ripping program.

Also sorry about the reddit reply my friend messed with my account

tried using ninjaripper, you have some sort of tutorial?

set the exe to dolphin, opened up melee, pressed f10 (made sure it wasnt set to pause in dolphin) and nothing happened. help??

 

[MFMAXY]

tried using ninjaripper, you have some sort of tutorial?

set the exe to dolphin, opened up melee, pressed f10 (made sure it wasnt set to pause in dolphin) and nothing happened. help??

bump? someone maybe have the mushroom kingdom adventure mode level from melee sitting around? really wanna make this stage and not being able to rip the model is frustrating.

 

[MerryShadow]

Hi Theytah, do you know if it is possible to (and if yes, how to) make a character "fade in", as in go from invisible to visible more or less smoothly?
Edit: I mean in game, obviously.

 

[sporksparks]

Hey Theytah, sorry if I'm asking for too much, but can you make/link me a good rigging tutorial? I've tried many different methods and I often get confused/mess up.

 

[AndrogynousOkami]

The links to Audacity, Brawl Managers, and the custom build folder appear to be broken.

 

[Ryztiq]

The links to Audacity, Brawl Managers, and the custom build folder appear to be broken.

I had to reset all my links, ill fix them asap

 

[TimeMuffinPhD]

So I've been making some custom stages for a pack. However I want to change the actual picture of the stage on the select screen, but I'm not sure how to go about getting a legitimate picture of my stage? I know how to change it, just not how to get the picture of my stage.

EDIT - I worked it out never mind.

 

[XSinnerX]

Hey,
Loving the thread. I'm having a lot of problems changing the stage icon with a custom one in PM, I change it then try it in game on the wii and it just comes up black with no colour. How do I make it have colour?

 

[Ryztiq]

Hey,
Loving the thread. I'm having a lot of problems changing the stage icon with a custom one in PM, I change it then try it in game on the wii and it just comes up black with no colour. How do I make it have colour?

you're probably putting the image in the wrong format, try changing the format when you import it.

 

[Ryztiq]

Gonna be streaming some work on my prime samus and also a minecraft stage I've been working on, be sure to tune in!
http://www.twitch.tv/theytah/

 

[flintconfirmed]

Theytah, could you tell me if Peardian's stage Bowser's Keep is just incompatible or give me any advice?
Here's what's happening: I'm using lakora's rel changer properly to port it over Rainbow Cruise, I used the STGPALUTENA (Less Lag) pac, and it worked, but the lag was too much to be playable. I changed the pac to the STGYORSTER(Less Lag) and even tried the regular ones. It's a Yoshi's Island import but all the pac's are STGPALUTENA internally. I've tried quite a few rels after finding that the stage wouldn't load with anything, and now I can't get the first Laggy setup working again.

I'm sorry if this is long, and I know you're busy, but I'm just about ready to give up on this stage, I just really want to keep trying because it's one of the most interesting I've seen.

I'd message Peardian but KCMM won't send me my activation email. Thank you if you can spare the time to help me.

 

[Ryztiq]

Theytah, could you tell me if Peardian's stage Bowser's Keep is just incompatible or give me any advice?
Here's what's happening: I'm using lakora's rel changer properly to port it over Rainbow Cruise, I used the STGPALUTENA (Less Lag) pac, and it worked, but the lag was too much to be playable. I changed the pac to the STGYORSTER(Less Lag) and even tried the regular ones. It's a Yoshi's Island import but all the pac's are STGPALUTENA internally. I've tried quite a few rels after finding that the stage wouldn't load with anything, and now I can't get the first Laggy setup working again.

I'm sorry if this is long, and I know you're busy, but I'm just about ready to give up on this stage, I just really want to keep trying because it's one of the most interesting I've seen.

I'd message Peardian but KCMM won't send me my activation email. Thank you if you can spare the time to help me.

Last time I tried that stage Im pretty sure that it didn't work.

 

[flintconfirmed]

Last time I tried that stage Im pretty sure that it didn't work.

I'm going to see if there's anything that can be done about it with my friends computer, but after that I'm ready to give up on it. Thanks for replying though.

 

[Draco_The]

Is it possible to rimlight/put spec maps on a model without breaking the Flash Light Event?

 

[Ryztiq]

Is it possible to rimlight/put spec maps on a model without breaking the Flash Light Event?

yeah, that's just shader/material stuff and is pretty easy to do, mewtwo2000 has a tutorial on a basic rimlight effect.

 

[forbidden12]

Hey Theytah what program would you recommend for costumes Brawlbox or the Costume manager. Does one make some costumes crash or is it the file of the costume?

 

[forbidden12]

How did you make the multiville stage in your old build? When i replace the stgvillage 00, 01, 02, 03, and 04 with different smashville stages it always ends up going to one smashville stage.