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There's this girl, see, and I need some help and advice.

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Talazala

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The following has personal and subjects that may be awkward for some people.

Ok, so today is supposed to be some sort of Chinese Valentines Day, because there is some old myth saying today is when two stars meeting or something.

Anyways, I know this one girl, who I sorta, you know, like. She already knows of my existence, I know of hers, and we're friends. I want me and her to become more than just friends though, like a girlfriend boyfriend relation. Sorta. There I said it. Why? We share many interests, and she has this personality that I can't resist. She has nothing special nor bad when it comes to looks , but her personality is so great and compensates for this enough to make me want to go for her really badly. I'm not sure if she feels the same about me, but whatever.

First problem: She herself has admitted to being "friends" with a few other guys. She gave me a reason, but I forgot it cuz I was distracted by her at the moment. All I remember was thinking this reason was legit when I heard it. :ohwell: Good thing is she says she meets with guys in groups, so I can sorta assume she's not dating yet. I've also personally asked if she has a boyfriend, and she has said she has had a boyfriend in the past but broke up, saying she got in arguments with him and was a little depressed. I trust her, yet when I think about it, there is so much evidence pointing to the idea that she could be a player. I highly doubt this is true though.

Second Problem: How do I get into a more, like, real relationship? I've never had to do this before, so what should I do to approach her? I tried occasionally touching her (in appropriate ways) and talking with her and hoping something would happen, but nothing. I fail.

Also, we don't see each other often. We only have time during summerbreak to see each other. I'd rather not discuss the reason...

An Important question: How do know you're dating? Is kissing like what gives this away, or is frequently meeting each other? I dunno.

Please help me.
 

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Hopeless case, move on to the next girl.
 

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But, like, how? Do I need to set it up somehow or do I just appear out of the blue and ask her. Also, what do I say?!
 

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There's no manual for this, you just go up to her when it's convenient for both of yall, ask her some stuff and get a yes or no. Better appear normally or out of the blue, if you put effort in to setting something up and she says no it's a waste of time. Just ask her if she wants to go out with you.
 

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movie and a dinner or even just dinner. find someone to go on a double date with to make it not so awkward

kissing is not the magic moment when you are both boyfriend and girlfriend.

yes and just ask her stop contemplating it just do it. i know it is a little nerve racking especially the first time you ever ask a girl out. and it just kinda happens when you realize you are dating
 

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first off, video game forum is wrong place to ask.

but if you must....


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Just come right out in say it. Even something as lame as "will you go out with me?" will get the job done. Just do SOMETHING or you will regret it..
 

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You will know you are dating if you guys are going out on dates. It's that simple. Is this your first time around?
 

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WHAT SHE'S FRIENDS WITH GUYS

Totally unacceptable
 

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Yeah, dude, just ask her. The longer you wait, the less likely your chances of being with her. A heads up, she probably knows you like her.

Also, loads of girls have loads of guys who are just friends. It's something you'll need to accept if you want a healthy relationship.
 

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WHAT SHE'S FRIENDS WITH GUYS

Totally unacceptable
This.
I knew a chick like this once.
I asked her out once.
she moved far away.
she came back to visit.
she said no more than 3 words to me.
turns out, she's pretty much a *****.
 

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Also I'm not sure what you're trying to imply by putting "friends" in quotes. Does it mean that she has friends who are guys? Or are you insinuating a Friends-with-benefits situation?

In the former case, grow a pair. (meant in the kindest possible way to encourage)
In the latter, yeah maybe you should back off.
 

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Don't be afraid to ask her out, she won't shun you for life or something if you do.

-First thing you should do is ask her if she wants to do something on the weekend or some other convenient time; like to get ice cream, play mini-golf, or something like that (DON'T go to a movie just yet; you won't be able to just talk. Plus, she may automatically think you have other intentions). If she says yes, you're on your way.

-When hanging out with her, you should try and be cool, funny, and above all be yourself. Try to make her laugh; girls love a guy with a sense of humor.

-When you're almost done hanging out with her and the timing is right (you'll know), that's when you should ask her to be your GF.

-When asking her out, be relaxed and be confident: The smell of low self-esteem tightens the bra straps. A good approach to this is the classic "I'm pretty sure you know I like you, and I hope you like me too." Don't forget to always be confident, nonchalant.

-If she says yes, awesome job; you got the girl! If she says no, DO NOT show you're sad or upset. Act like its not a big deal and continue to be cool about it. By doing this there's a better chance she'll start liking you in the future.

Hope I helped. Go get her!
 

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So you wanna get into a real relationship with a woman? Well, I'm not an expert at all, but..

Ask her when it's convenient if she's doing anything (friday/next week/whenever) and wants to do something small (ice cream, coffee/lunch/whatever) with you sometime. I agree with affinity, doing something major like going to a movie might send the wrong signal.

Spending time with her is one of the most important things of a relationship. This means that only being able to see eachother during the summer might be a big problem, you're gonna have to work around it.

A girl having friends with guys is perfectly normal. You say there's lots of evidence of being a player, but she doesn't seem to be dating around.. Hmm. Sounds to me like she just has guyfriends.

I'd get into the arguments and the past boyfriend, but I don't know if it's quite on topic at this point.

Dating is not the definition of a relationship, it's the part before it. Dating is where you're trying to establish a relationship.

Being in love.. Well, that's been a tough one to describe. I guess the earliest possible way to know is to tell her that you love her and she says it back.

My advice? Find a spot where there is a lull in the conversation and just ask her if she is doing anything, and would like to do something sometime. If she says yes, awesome. If she says she's busy, suggest another time. If she's completely busy all the time, it may be sign she doesn't want you.

And as always, be confident. Show her that you like her and you're not afraid to admit it. The scent of attraction is from a confident man.
 

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Take it one step at a time. Start off with being just hanging out, than go to asking her out.
 

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Since when is the movies major?
Like I said, I wasn't an expert in any way, but in my personal experience movies on the first date don't really work that well. They just happen to be "Yeah, it was awesome, wanna go on another date" Or something. Just going to a movie doesn't leave you with many chances to learn about eachother, unless you go eat dinner or something.

I guess I worded it wrong when I said major.
 

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Stop being a little ***** and just ask her. God it's not that hard./ tough love
 

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Do whatever will make you get the courage to ask her, this helps me if I tried to get a girl, I won't tell you what happened later because it will only make trying to help you worse, but you will be miserable forever if you don't ask and bottle it up to the point where you constantly think "should I do it no, or maybe later?" The longer you wait, the chances of anything happening get slimer by the day, you will regret it if she gets somebody else in the time you could've called her yours, but the hell do I do about relationships, I am just a nerd.
 

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Set yourself on fire to take your mind off the task at hand then asking her out will be the least of your worries.
 

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Thanks guys, I'll take all your advice seriously. Maybe not the one with setting myself aflame, but, maybe. So then, no movie.

I could play the violin for her, is that a good idea?
 

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Just be confident, have a good sense of humor, and most importantly, be confident and have a good sense of humor.

Or you could try to be just like Jim Halpert...or Michael Cera. Lol.
 

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I could play the violin for her, is that a good idea?

It depends... I figure its a 55/40/5 percent chance that:
A) She'll like it
B) She'll think you're weird (like I would)
or C) She'll think you're in love with her and get freaked out and try to avoid you but then she'll be paranoid that you're going to be or are a stalker

But i guess a violin could be romantic...
 

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Just ask her out, a violin is more like a if she is curious kind of thing, otherwise I would find it strange if somebody came up to me and played an instrument, but that's me.
 

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Hmm, playing the violin. Only if you don't suck.

/silly

Playing the violin.. At least one of you loves the violin, I hope. If she loves the violin, that's a big plus for you.

It would show to her that you're interested in what she likes, which is a big plus in any kind of relationship, whether it be bf/gf, parent/son, or a physical relationship.

If you're doing it because it's romantic, well.. I've never actually tried that. I have no idea how effective that would be. On one hand, it might show her you're trying to be romantic with her. On the other hand, it might show her that you're trying to show off which is usually bad.

I don't have any good advice if you wanna play the violin to her. I really don't know if it is a good idea or a bad idea. It all really depends if she thinks it's romantic or not. Showing off is really not the first option you should go to when getting women into a real relationship.

These guidelines, of course, apply to most things: take note of her hobbies, what she likes to do, and try to get interested in them. Also, keep an eye out if she's trying to get interested in your hobbies. It means she probably likes you.

Universal things always apply, be confident, have a sense of humor.
 

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oh lord how did I forgot a sense of humor, take this lesson well my friend: Women LOVE to laugh, it's a good feeling.
 

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When did smashboards become a site for dating advice?

ANYWAYS,

Go buy flowers for her and write a note

TBH, a girl rejected me; kept the flowers, and thought i was sweet.

Go figure.
 

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Well, sometimes I can make her laugh, sometimes I try and I fail.

As for the violin, I mentioned this once, and she went on a rant about how she plays the guitar, somehow relating this to the violin, in a positive way. She's actually interested in showing me how to play the guitar (I have a bit if expierience), so I might bring my violin when I go meet her on that day. Of course she might invite a few of her friends, the majority being guys, and that might be kinda weird.

Then theres the problem of actually deciding when this day will be. I've asked her, but she doesn't seem to have a fixed day. She's pushed it back twice already.

It depends... I figure its a 55/40/5 percent chance that:
A) She'll like it
B) She'll think you're weird (like I would)
or C) She'll think you're in love with her and get freaked out and try to avoid you but then she'll be paranoid that you're going to be or are a stalker

But i guess a violin could be romantic...
I'm kinda afraid of option C. Probably won't happen though.

Isn't that what the pool room is for? discussing life and such random things?
 

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Hopefully, the people in this topic actually have talked to the opposite gender.

Hopefully.
 
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