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you mean when link is at the ledge of the stage and does an up-b next to someone sheilds and you slide off. its like a falling up-b now that i think about it. i have lost in tournament that way lol
Yes, that. I can't explain why it is there, but it sucks to die at any percent to something so random. They could make it have Melee physics, but who knows? Anything that prevents certain death is fine by me.
The spin attack "deathslide" is something that's been in every Smash game (except 64, iirc). It is also a bug that happens very rarely both in tournament and casual settings, so it's not game-changing, either. That's just the nuance of Link being one of the few characters programmed with a grounded Up B attack.
Oh, okay. I just don't want that to affect me if I ever go to tourney, but I can see why it is rare. I just wish Link could grab the ledge when that happens. I do wonder if this may also affect Toon & Young Link as well.
It happened to me with Young Link in Melee, but I don't remember if Toon Link had the same problem in Brawl or Sm4sh.
Yeah, I think Toon Link's multiple hits with Spin Attack made it impossible. I don't think he gets pushed back at all.
You are forgetting that Link can fall fast on demand and has overall less landing lag.
You're forgetting airdodges can be done upward. I wasn't suggesting to AD into the ground, that's super punishable if it has the same amount of lag as SSB4. My point stands; you saw Marth AD out of Dthrow>Usmash. Frame trapping won't be as reliable in SSBU. I really hope Link gets true combos.
Couple thing to note about air dodges:
true, frame trapping won't be as reliable (from what we see so far) . but down tilt to forward air felt super true though. link never had many true combos though outside of his multi hit moves.
yes, neutral air and back air feel great in this game. also we can't forget about links grab. even though it is not a tether, it still has decent range. i was able to grab further away then it would normally seem with just a regular grab.
EDIT: I also wanted to add, my brother was trying different things on the ledge and he told me he was able to air dodge into the ledge and snap to it. he could do it more then once, so maybe it can be a pseudo melee ledge stall technique.
being slower than or . I don't want to sound angry or anything, but I don't get what makes & so fast when I don't so movement that quickly in his own game. In fact, seems more faster especially when he uses up his stamina wheel doing so. This is merely a small observation, and while I get my answers would involve distinction, I wonder if mobility has to be one way to do it.That blue text is eye r*** btw. Smaller characters are always faster in fighting games; it's pretty standard.I really want to know what reasoning is behind
Balance.I really want to know what reasoning is behind
It would reacharge...eventually. The bow, boomerang and shield on the other hand...
Sorry man. I did notice the problems with that, and I did not want that shade of blue. I will fix it. I do hope things get better for you.
Link can only jump as high as an ordinary person in his video game, and can only run fast if he puts his things away which he never does in Smash. The highest any Link has ''jumped'' (Revali's Gale is just riding wind) was Toon Link in Minish Cap via Roc's Cape.
Link junped high in 4 swords adventure. I think the item was called rocs feather
was there (don't know if this was in France or somewhere else), and Majora had a video as well, so we have 10 videos of footage here for Link! Is there anything interesting you guys found? If anything, I noticed that bombs kill significantly earlier than they did in SSB4.
I noticed uptilt starts behind Link now which makes first hit bair into uptilt juggling way more consistent. Overall his combo game got a lot better through his speed and amazing new (old) boomerang so I'm fine that his bombs lost combo potential in exchange for better pressuring in neutral. Overall I'm very optimistic about Link.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhiLe5dqqxnKQ7RzMEBYFz3A2DHSEXYAo
This is a playlist for the SSBU Demo at Japan Expo. Otakuni
That hit into the bomb blast was the most beautiful set up I've ever seen.
This is easily some of the best footage for
There isn't much to say about that besides the Marth was really bad. He ran into attacks and had no sense of punishing or footsies. IMO this is a much more realistic game:
This is easily some of the best footage for
I've played against Ness and his superior mobility was a big factor in the MU being +1 in Ness' favor in SSB4, imo. Now it looks about even. Link probably has a larger window to combo Fair from close range boomerang. The back and forth was pretty standard; Ness is better up close but Link has the heavyweight powerhouse factor where one pivot Fsmash takes a stock at 73% off the side (3:44). Except now it's a little harder for Ness to close the gap. Fair seems to connect both hits fine, which was something I was worried about; in SSB4 floaties like Zelda could pop out of Link's jab and Fsmash. Link's upB recovery seems to have more horizontal distance but less vertical. Link airdodges then SDs (2:25) which might be because unfimaliraty with the game but it also shows how Link's recovery is more exploitable without a tether. At 1:50 Ness grabs Link out of jab so he probably tried to jab cancel and it didn't work. As mentioned, Utilt starts behind Link which is great for bair1 combos. Fair1>land might combo; Link tried it once but picking up his bomb actually got in the way. Losing Dthrow combos really sucks.
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, I definitely agree that down throw is not better at all. Perhaps a little more hitstun would not hurt, but I do not like seeing opponents be able to airdodge out of it at almost any percent.I noticed PK Fire made the bomb explode in Link's hand, although he might have dropped it. That makes me wonder what would happen if fire attacks like Captain Falcon's downB hit Link while holding a bomb.
I also noticed that up tilt and up air still have good kill power. I wonder how well of an anti-air up tilt in particular could be. Down tilt seems really safe on shield when spaced correctly as well, so nothing too new there. Neutral air is still good, and missed techs can still be read and punished hard. One thing I have not seen much of yet would be up throw, as I cannot say if it has better kill power or not, but forward and back throw seem to do a better job and keeping the opponent away.
I could imagine the bombs now have damage thresholds as well, as I can say I have seen Ganondorf forward smash one to make it explode. As for fire, maybe it does immediately explode bombs for Link. I don't think opponents would be quick enough to catch him once he gets launched though, due to the bombs being stronger. Good catch!
Let's hope they reduce speed before launch.
I do wonder how well edgeguards will work against
though. losing his tether recovery does make recovery hard for him, even if tether recoveries were nerfed. Ike's recovery never was considered really good, so I wonder has his been nerfed at all. Otakuni was really unfortunate with the edgeguards done against him, I look forward to seeing his recovery become better. I think it would be fitting has better distance of his Spin Attack horizontally and vertically compared to & to make up for his lack of a tether.
Hell no, I've waited for this speed buff for 10 years and after being F and E tier for the length of that, I'm ready to be at least mid-tier.
IDK about that. There's a good ike in my region and Ike with stage control is scary. Ike is slightly underrated in SSB4 and should be in the same tier as Link imo.
Not Link.
Ike deserves ro be faster and good for once too!!!
