toasty
Smash Hero
ademisk..................why is your ness naked?!?! fcked up, yo
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Guide The way-too-long-for-anybody-to-actually-read Ness Guide!
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Ademisk
Smash Champion
Oh look, the Smash Bros site is up.
And Ness was naked in Magicant. NoA just put him in pajamas because they can't stand his rebel ways.
Edit: So Sakurai is likening Smash Bros to a sport. I'd say that Smash Bros is easily the closest game to being a sport in the history of videogames. You know, ignoring Sports Games. With the high level of competition, especially among the pro level, and the overall.....I dunno....watchability of Smash Bros(seriously, would YOU get bored watching a high end world wide pro level Smash Bros tournament? I wouldn't.) All that's really missing is the corporate sponsorship and large amounts of cash monies.
And Ness was naked in Magicant. NoA just put him in pajamas because they can't stand his rebel ways.
Edit: So Sakurai is likening Smash Bros to a sport. I'd say that Smash Bros is easily the closest game to being a sport in the history of videogames. You know, ignoring Sports Games. With the high level of competition, especially among the pro level, and the overall.....I dunno....watchability of Smash Bros(seriously, would YOU get bored watching a high end world wide pro level Smash Bros tournament? I wouldn't.) All that's really missing is the corporate sponsorship and large amounts of cash monies.
Wave⁂
Smash Legend
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Nice catch there. ^_^ Oh no, I'm falling filling my posts with ^_^ !!!! AHHH!!!
Ademisk
Smash Champion
Simna, I think he might be mocking you. You know, just in case you didn't catch it there.
Also, yeah, Sports games to me are in the same category as games based off of movies. Unless they're crazy (Anyone ever play Technos' Ice Hockey?)
Also, yeah, Sports games to me are in the same category as games based off of movies. Unless they're crazy (Anyone ever play Technos' Ice Hockey?)
toasty
Smash Hero
Techno's Ice Hockey on NES? if so...then TOO GOOD!!! is that the one where you have a choice of obscenely skinny, medium, and obscenely huge players?
[]D []< T []-[] []_[] []\[] []o) E []2 !
indie_dave
Smash Ace
z0mg u got jutsu'd ^_^
toasty
Smash Hero
GET ***** SON! haha...awesome.
thesage
Smash Hero
...
*picks Yoshi's Story* eat this bitter death
BTW: I'm back from Fanime^_^
*picks Yoshi's Story* eat this bitter death
BTW: I'm back from Fanime^_^
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
did you go as Ness? lol... hilarious... ^_^;
afraid not...my nes costume as it was is destroyed sadly...maybe i'll have a new one sometime in the future
NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
Wow, I come back from a long absence and am greeted by this lovely topic that wasn't here when I left!
You guys did a great job on all this. I just wish I could've been here to contribute more.
...but looking at it again, HEY!! Some of the stuff (in the moveset) has been ripped straight from my Ness guide and I'm not in the credits! What's up with that?
Another thing: you should change that thing about Ness's Dair in the moveset. this move is actually very useful as an attack if used correctly. If initiated just before the apex of a full jump, this move can be fast-falled and will cancel out as it hits the ground without any lag, no l-cancelling required. If it hits, it's an insane combo move. If it misses, Ness has no lag. The full jump can be used to avoid an incoming attack and then counter safely. What's more, this move rocks as a meteor because it's hitbox stays out for a long time compared to many other meteors.
You guys did a great job on all this. I just wish I could've been here to contribute more.
...but looking at it again, HEY!! Some of the stuff (in the moveset) has been ripped straight from my Ness guide and I'm not in the credits! What's up with that?
Another thing: you should change that thing about Ness's Dair in the moveset. this move is actually very useful as an attack if used correctly. If initiated just before the apex of a full jump, this move can be fast-falled and will cancel out as it hits the ground without any lag, no l-cancelling required. If it hits, it's an insane combo move. If it misses, Ness has no lag. The full jump can be used to avoid an incoming attack and then counter safely. What's more, this move rocks as a meteor because it's hitbox stays out for a long time compared to many other meteors.
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
yeah, nessbounder, you helped lay the foundation for the ness guides.
I didn't realize that your work was put directly into this guide because, i must confess, i've never read this huge guide... heh ^_^;;
oh i see, you were in Earthbound360's credits, but at the top of the page it says "the people in Earthbound360's credits" which would naturally include you. =/
I didn't realize that your work was put directly into this guide because, i must confess, i've never read this huge guide... heh ^_^;;
oh i see, you were in Earthbound360's credits, but at the top of the page it says "the people in Earthbound360's credits" which would naturally include you. =/
NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
Whoops, my bad, I suppose. I should have read the thing all the way through first. XD
indie_dave
Smash Ace
z0mg nessbounder's bax0rz
where is your guide and where is mow's?
we wanna seeeez it pl0xkthx
..i still need to finish reading this bumbucha guide.. TT .TT
where is your guide and where is mow's?
we wanna seeeez it pl0xkthx
..i still need to finish reading this bumbucha guide.. TT .TT
toasty
Smash Hero
lol, Nessbounder came out of nowhere and posted on EVERYTHING...make some vids!!
Ademisk
Smash Champion
Yes, more videos for my archive! MORE MORE MORE!!!!
toasty
Smash Hero
a friend of mine recorded a vid of my Ness. Only problem is it wasn't a real match. The other guy was using Link and the vid was so he could record the BombPie [dunno if that's the "name" for it but that's what he calls it] which is basically Link standing at the very edge with a bomb, throwing it down, and he's AUTOMATICALLY on the ledge...no real animation either, it's just "BOOM *ledge*" and I wanted to throw some YYG tricks in there. Haha, any time I have to "show" someone any sort of trick, whether it be YYG or Pikachu's quick-attack edgehog, I tend to mess up a LOT. so you'll see a whole bunch of failed Spike Jackets because I'd auto-cancel the dair a million times. And also: the Link player doesn't know anything about the YYG, he's only seen it happen a couple times but he doesn't know any of its properties
so yeah, just keep in mind it was mostly a joke match, neither of us were "trying"...mostly trying for the bombpie and the yyg...I'll let you know as soon as they're uploaded
Ademisk
Smash Champion
I've never gotten a spike jacket to work.
toasty
Smash Hero
maybe you're landing before the move can come out for you to L-Cancel it. just SHFFL it but don't start the move too late in the jump, or it won't come out and the hit box will still be on the ground...although, you can do that on PURPOSE to make someone think you got the spike jacket and you can use the deadline with the hitbox =D
Ademisk
Smash Champion
"Get away from me, I've got a knife!(spike jacket)" *shoot em with a gun(deadlined PK Flash)*
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
Hey.. that doesn't work =(
omg, does it?!
NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
I'd love to make some vids. Unfortunately, I don't have the means or time to do so, and now that King Kong is in Brisbane I have no competitive people to make the vids with. Unless you're interested in seeing me beat some computers...nah...
My guide is still here. It's stickied. How could you miss it?
My guide is still here. It's stickied. How could you miss it?
Ademisk
Smash Champion
Uh yeah, I think it works, but you have to actually hit someone with it or something, I forget the exactNess.
And your guide is good, but I still want videos.
And your guide is good, but I still want videos.
toasty
Smash Hero
hmm I just tried it, doesn't work dude. also, after the Flash goes off, the hitbox is still there
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=104983
looks like the yoyo glitch. sort of... 'tis an elongated hit/trap box.
i didn't post in the thread cuz, you know... YYG on the down low.
looks like the yoyo glitch. sort of... 'tis an elongated hit/trap box.
i didn't post in the thread cuz, you know... YYG on the down low.
toasty
Smash Hero
giiiyyyaaaawd...this Ganon player teched my PKFlash last night!!! If it didn't look so beautiful, I woulda cried.
Ademisk
Smash Champion
I've seen it work with a PK Flash, it's in one of Simna's Guide to PK Thunder videos.
toasty
Smash Hero
hmmmm could it be a difference between PAL and NTSC [or whatever it's called]...are you SURE? I've seen that enough times that I wouldn't have missed something like that...man, I dunno...could you check again and let me know if you see it?
Ademisk
Smash Champion
Like I said, I think you have to hit someone else with it. Try it in training with 3 opponents and hit the one closest to you. I could be wrong, but I would swear I've seen it.
indie_dave
Smash Ace
D: whoamgz wtheck attack used to tech that?????
once i shineteched ganon's warlock punch. the dude i was playing sd'd in shame.
grahhhhh of course i'm so silly, trying to run on like 2 hours of sleep everyday :o
i do wanna see mow's tho plzkthx
toasty
Smash Hero
noooope...tried it, doesn't work. for some reason, a long time ago, I remember there being a video showing that too...but then, never saw it again, and any time I try it, in any given scenario...doesn't work.
toasty
Smash Hero
indie_dave
Smash Ace
oh ok
i'm a no-di no-tech n00b TT .TT
i'm a no-di no-tech n00b TT .TT
toasty
Smash Hero
hahaha dude naw man, it's not an easy thing to get used to doing, it takes a lot of time and a lot of reminding yourself to even TRY it, let alone when you need to. remember: don't try teching if you haven't done your UpB yet, because then you'll just airdodge X_X ...easiest thing to do is when you get edgeguarded right AT the edge [like someone standing at the edge charging a smash or Ganon/Captain Falcon trying to spike you right at the edge, etc], if you didn't tech, think to yourself "man, I could have teched that"........after a long while of that, you'll just start doing it, or you'll think about it enough to the point where you'll try and try and try...and then magically it'll work one day. so don't get discouraged if you can't do it yet. not many people can/do, and almost NO ONE does it consistently but the advanced/pros...
another thing to help you tech is that after you do your upB, let go of the control stick and then press R/L...if you want to do a tech wall jump, let go of the joystick, press R/L and up and you'll not only tech but you'll wall jump too.....don't ever regular tech with Ness unless you're good at aiming the PKT2 up walls/slopes
thesage
Smash Hero
Mow took his guide down after people criticized him for it after he said that Ness was faster than Sheik. I remember reading it a LOOOOOONG time ago (three years mabye later?) on gamefaqs. It's not there either. I've asked him for it, but he has it on a computer far far away from him right now... Two things he mentioned (which I put in my section on the super Ness guide) are pike fireshooting/dropping involving wd'ing foward or backwards and using pk fire. I can't remember much else though.
Look at all of Mow's old posts that I put up in the super guide (as well as other people's like MOFO!!!!).
Look at all of Mow's old posts that I put up in the super guide (as well as other people's like MOFO!!!!).
toasty
Smash Hero
BOMBPIE VS. YYG!!!!
Please read the description. No flaming on skill level since this video has nothing to do with skill. Just shenanigans at the exhausting end of a smashfest. And man...I need to learn not to suck so much with my failed spike jackets
I think it was Ademisk who was having trouble with em? you might be doing what I did in this vid, which was doing the dair too late in the SH...but like I mentioned earlier, when it comes to "showing people" stuff like this, I tend to mess up more but yeah...still funny stuff happened...and you get to see Link's Bombpie!!! [you'll see with the first edgehog]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vN9IgsX2iA
enjoy =D
Please read the description. No flaming on skill level since this video has nothing to do with skill. Just shenanigans at the exhausting end of a smashfest. And man...I need to learn not to suck so much with my failed spike jackets
I think it was Ademisk who was having trouble with em? you might be doing what I did in this vid, which was doing the dair too late in the SH...but like I mentioned earlier, when it comes to "showing people" stuff like this, I tend to mess up more but yeah...still funny stuff happened...and you get to see Link's Bombpie!!! [you'll see with the first edgehog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vN9IgsX2iA
enjoy =D
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
aww... you missed the spike jackets. but nice vid anyway.
so, bombpie... looks fun.
EDIT: i see deathline grab! ah, so fun.
so, bombpie... looks fun.
EDIT: i see deathline grab! ah, so fun.
Ademisk
Smash Champion
Huh, no, I figured it out yesterday after you explained it. I kept trying to auto-cancel them, I didn't realize I was supposed to L-cancel.