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is probably good as is. If they should fix anything, it would be unnerfing U-throw, but his results have improved recently, so I would be cautious in giving him a more powerful kill option when that's already one of his big strengths..
Yeah, seriously, they've had so long to fix that, but they just didn't for some reason. I wonder if it's possible to at least fix his eyes in a mod, that'd be nice.
R.O.B.'s results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1hQ2uFoZhVf7Z8F-BqrCd_rnVVrtquCXtRum9qabXbSc/viewanalyticsToday's suggestions said:
is almost at the point of perfect balance. All he needs right now is a tiny air speed buff so he can use his good aerial kit more effectively. It shouldn't be too big of a buff, or else I could see safe D-air pressure and arrow edgeguarding becoming overpowered.
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back, is fine. Why did they drop his airspeed so low though? If I had to change Pit but couldn't revert him to Brawl form, I'd increase his airspeed significantly. (Unless, of course, was to be decloned) is comin' to town
You know, I'm actually impressed that I somehow managed to trick myself into thinking we were doing Villager, I legit thought it was his day until I checked the thread again and realized something was a bit off, lol.
, my main from day 1.
is pretty much good at this point. He either needs no changes, or one nerf and one buff to balance each other out:.
Villager's results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vIai9EhUTl34Y5zzSVMh13E4V5vfhv4h8TWwmucHh9g/viewanalyticsToday's suggestions said:
is the least played character in Smash 4 that isn't a Koopaling! "Since they have no results, Pikmin & Alph simply have to be bottom tier."
Dark Pit is the least played character, Olimar has Shuton, Myran and Dabuz...
Just kidding, both of the Super Pikmin... Cousins? are in my Balanced tier! Right around Donkey Kong, for reference.
I vote for VoiD!
is obnoxious to fight, but I acknowledge he's a balanced fighter. He has lots of results now that Dabuz is using him more, and I wouldn't change him looking at it as objectively as possible.
That list would be balanced ifI was the one guy who voted Olimar as high tier...whoops!
Anyway, there's been a bit of talk going around about what would happen if we were to ban Lylat and Duck Hunt, the two most gimmicky stages that are still legal (one is even a starter!). That would leave us with five legal stages, four of them being starters, but as you might know there needs to be an odd amount of starters for the stage striking process to work. The question now would be which starter to turn into a counterpick, and in my opinion, it would be Town and City. The reason is that it would be the most gimmicky starter stage left, with small blast zones and platforms that are in lots of different locations, move slightly, and can carry you off the stage. And honestly, I could actually see a meta with Final Destination, Battlefield, and Smashville as starters with Dreamland and Town and City as counterpicks happening in the future. It would be the most balanced stage list, with the worst gimmicks being possible stretcher platform deaths and wind shenanigans, which aren't as bad as stage tilting and going through the stage (in Lylat) or obstacles in the sky, temporary fast-moving platforms, and extremely high platforms (in Duck Hunt).
didn't exist but unfortunately they do. Dreamland 64 and Town&City are extremely beneficial for the top tiers, and you can only ban so many stages to prevent going to a tri platform stage or Trashville, so it is a pick your poison situation. With many bans available for the number of stages, they are eft to choose either a gimmicky stage or FD. Duck Hunt only gets terrible when you are playing against a camp2win character like Sanic or Jigglypuff and no one with a brain should ever leave them available for them. Lylat gimmicks are overrated, and it is the result of people not bothering to practice the stage (for the record I practice it in Brawl). The gimmicks exist and might get abused, but at competitive level it really never happens. As a counterpick stage and it is a really good wildcard, as some characters benefit a lot from the messed floor, the platforms, or get a cheap gimp. And who knows, it might be your opponent's mental block (I seriously won a set here because my opponent hated it and didn't ban it). Cutting down the stage list is a bad idea, we already have very few stages to go by.
At least Sm4sh isn't like Melee as far as Battlefield clones go...That list would be balanced if
Probably not, but what about modded stages?
I've been hoping for custom stages for a while, but I doubt they'd ever happen, not really for logistical reasons (it's no harder to get a custom stage than it is to get DLC stages) but for the simple fact that most people don't like change, which is a shame. I personally think opening up to custom stages would be great for the game honestly, both for making neutral stages and also maybe for making some cp stages if they benefit the right characters.
I rather drink bleach than having Mario and Rosa buffed.
I think nerfing D3 and jiggly is by far the biggest problem.
No, simply because it wouldn't be fair to any of the mains of the character receive the nerfs.
And give Marth elitists more arguments to piss on Lucina? No thanks.
:/ I just think the F smash has a little bit too much knockback, I know other players,including Pugwest would like that to be toned down just a bit. But if it isn't nerfed, then so be it. I wouldn't be mad if they didn't. Its just an opinion, you don't have to agree but don't get the idea that I'm trying to piss on Lucina. People are always going to fight - especially in the Marcina debate. There are always gonna be elitists somewhere out there.
Yes, I know that you are not pissing on Lucina. But believe me the situation is THAT bad. If a single number changes there is an uproar.
F-Tilt Base Dmg. 10.925 > 10.924
