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Pft please you know Porky was working in cloning.
I've gotten into a lot of arguments over this. I feel your frustration.I thought someone was trying to play with my heart on this day when I heard Lucas was back in. And I'm SERIOUSLY disgraced by Ness' Lucas customs (HOW IS A MOVE MORE SITUATIONAL AND WORSE THAN PK FLASH, JUST HOW. That's saying something cause Flash is actually decent this game lol).
Then I heard the beautiful Love Theme Remix and I heard his voice again. I started crying a river because the very first newcomer I played in Brawl AND one of my favorite match-ups is finally back in. I shall have 3 mains now. I guess... LOVE IS MEANT TO BE.
ALSO PLEASE BRING THE NATURAL KILLER CYBORG MUSIC IN WITH THE RETURN OF LUCAS ASDFGHJKL
[Excuse this tangent of a rant but when I see that statement, especially now I CRINGE.]
Saying Ness & Lucas are clones is like trying to call a knife and a scissor the same thing. Semi-clones is still inaccurate b/c they literally only share like 6-7 moves (U-air, F-Smash, the specials and possibly the Final Smash cause it wasn't shown here). Now, of those moves, how many of those are ONLY a Speed vs. power difference? That's U-Air, PK Flash/Freeze and F-Smash (Lucas has faster speed). The specials are similar, and some even share the same purpose, but not the same and are different enough.
Lucas' PK Fire always goes perfectly sideways and pushes the opponent away; his way of spacing. Ness' PK Fire traps and goes diagonally downward when used in midair; for a setup.
Lucas' PKT is slower, but goes through hurtboxes for the whole duration of the move, can control with less need for room he's launched faster and hits several times along with gaining more distance (and let us hope he can do the PKT2 rebound). Ness' PKT disappears after the initial frames when he hits something, requires more room to turn and gets an EXTREMELY powerful blow when he hits something, but distance gets reduced for him.
I don't know how the Magnet is gonna be this game for Lucas, b/c Ness' got improved in everyway (at least when I compare it to his Magnet custom) - Ness has less lag and more healing power. I'm taking it that Lucas' would actually KO like it could in Brawl... Don't know if they'd make the healing on his even more compared to Ness considering he heals 1.6x the damage (but with a 30% cap). o.o
And Flash/Freeze is indeed a Power/Speed difference, but the Freeze can allow some neat follow-ups with Lucas (possibly a Nair or a PKT2) while Flash just outright KOs. They're also good at eating shields away.
If you still think so, then I guess "Robin & Ness are clones cause they have magic attacks and can use Electric & Fire attacks and EL FIRE IS TOO SIMILAR TO PK FIRE".
I'll still hang around here, I'll probably be maining 3 characters now... Or one will be downgraded to secondary. Probably Toon Link.Also, I guess that means we're saying goodbye to 1/3rd of our Ness mains
Just please tell me they improved his grab reach and the end lag if you miss the grab: I hated it in Brawl.
Likely due to balancing as well as finalizing Lucas. It is likely that Lucas was started months after Mewtwo, but wouldn't take as long due to porting data from Brawl. I'd rather put up with the wait and have a finished product than to get it right away and it be... Well, scrap. But I still feel your pain.
Hahaha, off I go then!
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Zap jump might still be in, and wavebounce PKF might be too, but I can't see magnet pulling being in since they changed how magnets float in this game.Hahaha, off I go then!
But seriously, this is the dream come true in the best way possible for me. Expect me to be co-maining Ness and Lucas again, and already I can see Lucas looks buffed - PK Freeze looks even quicker, meaning IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A GOOD MOVE. Also grab lag on all tether characters has been reduced in this game so even if we don't have pivot grab, snake will likely still be at least semi-good.
As soon as he comes out we'll have to do some labbing. Considering they left Ness with PK Jump, I'm optimistic to the idea that Lucas keeps zap jump, but I'd also like to test whether rope snake might cancel landing lag (probably not but interesting anyway). From the video, wavebouncing looks like it's still a thing, which means magnet pulls will probably still be there too (HYPE), and I'd also like to see whether the Dtilt lock is still viable (you only need 2 Dtilts and Fsmash and they're dead anyway
Anyway guys, I guess it's time to go say hello to our compatriot board. Together the PSI kids will rule the world!
The best of reasons.
We'll probably get a better sprite once he's released.
This is the face of nightmares. I'll still use him but boy it's an ugly sprite.
Right, but if anything aren't Magnets even moreso about momentum now? I get the feeling the mechanics changes to magnet could actually help but that's really just me hoping. =P
Hmm, I'm not so sure Magnets purely negated momentum in Brawl, considering that if you got hit and sent flying and used Magnet asap, you'd get sent quite a bit further.
That applied to 95% of special moves, not just magnets.
To be fair we did always have Dthrow --> Utilt at low percents as a true combo.
