Honestly, this kind of reply is exactly why I didn't want to bother replying with you back then, Cutie. I'm frankly disappointed in you, and in the fact that you twist "hearing both sides" into me wanting to "defend the guy". I never said that thing, ever, nor do I have any ill intent toward women. Every time I try to at least mention some update about him, you immediately come to try to attack me, and this time it's not different, in fact you seem to assume that I just 'hate' women. The constant posts against me are getting tiring.
I still stand by what I said earlier which is this following: I do not condone Chuggaaconroy's actions. And I'm sure KillerCage doesn't have to forgive him just as he said replying to me. You know what? Out of all the people here, I also think his reply was one of the most mature ones, next to Tim / NintendoCapriSun, which I'm sure doesn't often get seen in recent youtube people who get caught up into controversy, unlike those that will just double down, he backpedaled and actually owned up to his actions, explained the circumstances around it, and cut contact when it happened. There is already so much accountability. What more do one like him need to take better accountability? At this point, it might as well not be mentioned as a word, because it's becoming a buzzword.
Masae has posted an update that corroborates with what Emile said, they were indeed dating for about 10 years, and she says the omission was to prevent speculation about personal lives; she also wishes him well on his journey. This recontextualizes the video moments, knowing they were actually in a relationship at that time; initially, due to lack of clarification, the context looked to be much worse. Emile even requested people to not go after her. I'm sure you can understand. We do not want harassment around.
Just like with Emily and Masae, Emile also explained the circumstances around the Lawly thing, and agrees that the way the conversation was being steered in, is why he cut off contact. Honestly, I wouldn't want to try to continue interacting if the chat gets too weird, either. Did you miss the part where EVEN HIS MOTHER FELT UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE WHOLE THING? Or how about the discord chat? I'm afraid to get into it because of the topic which I'm pretty sure is against rules, but the behavior really isn't okay, especially when Lawly mentioned things about multiple adults back then, too.
You want to know my main problem with the whole thing? He literally was not allowed, back then, to have a chance to tell his full story, there were just quite the barrage of allegations against him, and it took his friends Tim and Jon for him to get back on track. And addressing these allegations takes a toll on people, especially on him, as his posts about himself implies having been assaulted when he was younger. This is not something that one can just 'get over', it's going to have an impact for the rest of his life. He even had to talk about suicide here, which he almost got driven to, due to the whole experience, and he even had some struggles with having a physical meeting with his girlfriend. He is very grateful for his girlfriend who came to his aid in a time of need.
There's so much empathy here, there is so much apologizing, explaining, and sorting out the situation. He has done bad things, YES, however, he is also the one who's had the most mature reply and behavior out of everyone in the whole situation, something we rarely see in the present era. I don't think it should be award worthy; I do still think this is worth at least pointing out, as it indicates his character and his personality. It's just soul crushing that due to the whole thing, he has pretty much lost his passion. But seeing the manner you reply here... I think it's just better to be honest, I've been trying to be nice about the whole thing:
I believe the way you replied to me about what I "said" is actually starting to make you look bad, and making it worse. You could just be simply saying that you still cannot forgive him, and that's okay. But instead, every of your reply toward me is that of hostility. You seem to be twisting my words around. I simply said it answers everything, including with Masae, Emily and Lawly, which are all victims that he addresses in the doc. And I recall you didn't even bother waiting for Chugga's full side of story.
This cycle keeps happening: there's allegations or controversies, the victims gain a boost in visibility and feeling heard, and instead of giving the other side a chance to reply to what's going on, people latch on it as a way to attempt to silence the other party or even get them off Internet. We are lucky that he is still with us to tell his side of story which recontextualizes everything. The truth is somewhere in the middle. And if anything continuing this cycle is going to actually harm real victims, victims who had a genuinely traumatizing experience, it be overall or with someone, and that is why I choose to stick to hearing from both sides. Chuggaa did not need to have to recount his story, in every detail necessary. Some of what he said, he didn't even want to get it out there. Now, he has to, because it is VITAL to the whole situation. And worst, he has lost his passion for videogames, and for recording Let's Play videos, because of the whole drama. Honestly, I can understand why if he doesn't want to come back to making video ever.
Again, let me reiterate. You do not have to forgive him, you do not have to acknowledge his presence ever, or hell, it's okay to leave the conversation when there's mentions about him. In fact, if you want to continue replying with this tone toward me, it's whatever. Perhaps I DO deserve it, after all. However, if you're going to continue saying these things toward me, then you can respectfully get off the high horse about accusing it toward me. I hate the notion of being unable to allow both sides to give a more proper, full response at once and instead harassing the other side off. I hate missing context. There is no hate toward women: there is just me denouncing the problem of wanting both sides to make a clear, concise, proper reply, without omitting things on purpose. Please tell me then, in your view, how is this downplaying the issue? It seems to me more that you're downplaying his replies, and his own mental state, as if you didn't read through in a thorough manner, and as someone who has a disability it irritates me.
Werster, the one who posted Lawly's doc, is starting to get backlash because of omitted context. It sounded believable at first I'll admit it, which likely was the last nail in the coffin for anyone remaining who was hoping for an answer, however with Chuggaaconroy's reply, it's now shifting against her. This is exactly what happens when context is missing from the other side. We heard Lawly's side, HOWEVER we never got to see the other side. It would have been different if we heard both sides in a few days, but Chuggaa's side only came a few months after. And this comes at the moment when everyone's just now starting to heal, too. I genuinely mean it: ** off with any potential replies being "we do not need to hear the other side, we already know". THIS PREVENTS THE OTHER PARTY FROM COMING OUT WITH DETAILS, BUT IT'S STILL SOMEHOW OKAY IN THIS PERIOD OF THIS. **. THIS.
