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[Deleted member]

I already asked this in the newcomer thread but I wanted to see your guys thoughts on this:

What if.......

The Smash character revealed at TGA is first party?



Ha ha, just kidding.


Unless.........

 

[Wademan94]

Just gonna throw this out there from the 1994 book The 50 Greatest Cartoons: As Selected by 1,000 Animation Professionals:

Though I’m curious, if this was made today, how high do you think the episode Band Geeks would rank?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

As much as i love him, I never thought I’d live in a world where someone considers Spongebob more iconic than ****ing Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck.

I'd definitely call him way bigger at this point. Popularity I don't pretend is the same as most iconic. That I leave to Spongebob and Mickey Mouse bar none. The rest are just a slight bit below among the bigger icons, but very respectably notable. Of course, this is also due to how things have changed in the years. This also deals with merchandise, exposure, etc. Spongebob picked up years ago to outbeat them. Before then, yeah, I'd call them bigger. But now? It's hard to actually find them constantly be talked about or have an actual show. They never actually hit Mickey Mouse level either, though no denying they got close. That's the only thing Spongebob really has. He's as iconic as the Mouse is right now. The other two just aren't as close.

Coming first doesn't make you bigger. Otherwise Steve, one of the biggest gaming icons, would be outshone by hundreds of characters. That is definitely not the case, as he's one of the few to constantly be on par with the original pillar three, Pac-Man, Mario, and Sonic. Nobody else even comes close to being as known.

It's YMMV, but things change in time.

Bugs Bunny has been voted the most popular cartoon character in the world for many years in a row.

Most popular =/= most iconic. That means they like him more. That doesn't mean he's more known in comparison. These are completely different things. Popularity relates to iconicness, but is definitely not the sole determining factor. There's more to it than that. See above.

I'll repeat it's YMMV, but I still consider as of this day, Mouse and Squarepants the most iconic now.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I'd definitely call him way bigger at this point. Popularity I don't pretend is the same as most iconic. That I leave to Spongebob and Mickey Mouse bar none. The rest are just a slight bit below among the bigger icons, but very respectably notable. Of course, this is also due to how things have changed in the years. This also deals with merchandise, exposure, etc. Spongebob picked up years ago to outbeat them. Before then, yeah, I'd call them bigger. But now? It's hard to actually find them constantly be talked about or have an actual show. They never actually hit Mickey Mouse level either, though no denying they got close. That's the only thing Spongebob really has. He's as iconic as the Mouse is right now. The other two just aren't as close.

Coming first doesn't make you bigger. Otherwise Steve, one of the biggest gaming icons, would be outshone by hundreds of characters. That is definitely not the case, as he's one of the few to constantly be on par with the original pillar three, Pac-Man, Mario, and Sonic. Nobody else even comes close to being as known.

It's YMMV, but things change in time.


Most popular =/= most iconic. That means they like him more. That doesn't mean he's more known in comparison. These are completely different things. Popularity relates to iconicness, but is definitely not the sole determining factor. There's more to it than that. See above.

I'll repeat it's YMMV, but I still consider as of this day, Mouse and Squarepants the most iconic now.

Saying Bugs Bunny is less iconic then that yellow square is an insult to the entire genre of animation.

 

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7-11 PM EST.

Didn't realize it would be that long. Maybe I won't miss the reveal.

Smash is totally a second half reveal right? I remember standing in line at Gamestop when Joker was announced. lol

 

[Aurane]

People really trying to say Bugs Bunny isn't the most iconic cartoon character to the world.

Lol k.

 

[PLATINUM7]

People really trying to say Bugs Bunny isn't the most iconic cartoon character to the world.

Lol k.

I thought that was Mickey Mouse.

 

[Wademan94]

Saying Bugs Bunny is less iconic then that yellow square is an insult to the entire genre of animation.

Okay I wouldn’t say THAT, at least in regards to the first three seasons. Honestly I’d say a few episodes like Band Geeks, Chocolate with Nuts or Pizza Delivery would be worthy of a greatest cartoons list, but yeah there’s no denying the amount of influence Looney Tunes has had over animation.

Also animation isn’t a genre, it’s a medium. People treating animation as a genre is why it isn’t taken as seriously as it should be.

 

[Spongeboob]

Just gonna throw this out there from the 1994 book The 50 Greatest Cartoons: As Selected by 1,000 Animation Professionals:

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Though I’m curious, if this was made today, how high do you think the episode Band Geeks would rank?

I think it would be ranked somewhere in the middle.

People really trying to say Bugs Bunny isn't the most iconic cartoon character to the world.

Lol k.

Bugs Bunny? Who's that?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I thought that was Mickey Mouse.

It absolutely is.

To clarify something, "influencing a ton of animation" isn't what I consider the only factor in being the most known right now. Lots of stuff influences others, but I specify Icon as "most known" specifically in the way I use it. Spongebob and Mickey Mouse nowadays I would peg as the most known now. Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck absolutely had that spot back then. They're super well known, but I'd argue the one that has significantly more exposure now would be a higher icon.

Of course, it's fine if people don't see it that way. Just wanted to make clear what my thought pattern was.

 

[Aurane]

I thought that was Mickey Mouse.

Oh yeah, Mickey. Lmao

 

[PLATINUM7]

Spoiler: Sorta beeg image

Anyway, we should get something like this again one day.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Why are we even debating the degree of icon status for characters like Bugs Bunny and Spongebob? It would be like arguing the degree of icon status of Darth Vader vs Thanos - the general audience would recognize all these characters regardless.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I can't stop listening to the two new songs in the latest Helluva Boss

One is so beautiful that I almost want to cry and one is super catchy.

 

[Spongeboob]

Why are we even debating the degree of icon status for characters like Bugs Bunny and Spongebob? It would be like arguing the degree of icon status of Darth Vader vs Thanos - the general audience would recognize all these characters regardless.

I think Thanos will be forgotten by anyone who isn't within Marvel or comic book circles over the years. Darth Vader, on the other hand...

 

[Lamperouge]

Didn't realize it would be that long. Maybe I won't miss the reveal.

Smash is totally a second half reveal right? I remember standing in line at Gamestop when Joker was announced. lol

I'd imagine Smash would be saved for near the end in order to keep the audience solely interested in that watching the rest of the show.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Why are we even debating the degree of icon status for characters like Bugs Bunny and Spongebob? It would be like arguing the degree of icon status of Darth Vader vs Thanos - the general audience would recognize all these characters regardless.

What we were commenting on was who should get in for non-gaming characters, and my opinion was "the most iconic first".

I did not list anything but Mickey Mouse and SpongeBob SquarePants as the most iconic for the cartoon list I did. Read last page for context. People disagreed, which was fine till it got clearly uncivil and more about laughing in my face instead of showing an ounce of respect. I at most expected it from one person(who has admitted they are trolly), but the rest? Welp. Guess I have to follow mob mentallity, right?

Yeah, you can tell I'm a bit pissed off that people are acting immature towards me randomly with no legitimate excuse.

 

[Knight Dude]

No idea who'll get in. But I'll hold out hope it's Jin Kazama.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Waking up tomorrow is going to be like:

My body is not ready.

 

[Noipoi]

It’s almost time for the Keanu Reeves’ smash reveal.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Oh it’s about time ZephyrZ got in! Congrats man!

 

[Wario Bros.]

It has been announced that Pokémon GO will have not only a presence at The Game Awards but an in-game event will also happen during it.

 

[Deleted member]

Finally, I got allowed to go to sleep (even though It shouldn't have been a problem in the first place but oh well).

See ya'll tomorrow

 

[Lamperouge]

Finally, I got allowed to go to sleep (even though It shouldn't have been a problem in the first place but oh well).

See ya'll tomorrow

G'night!

 

[Wademan94]

What we were commenting on was who should get in for non-gaming characters, and my opinion was "the most iconic first".

I did not list anything but Mickey Mouse and SpongeBob SquarePants as the most iconic for the cartoon list I did. Read last page for context. People disagreed, which was fine till it got clearly uncivil and more about laughing in my face instead of showing an ounce of respect. I at most expected it from one person(who has admitted they are trolly), but the rest? Welp. Guess I have to follow mob mentallity, right?

Yeah, you can tell I'm a bit pissed off that people are acting immature towards me randomly with no legitimate excuse.

Okay, I could’ve been more civil with that subject, and for that I apologize. However I do think you may be blowing the whole laughing in your face thing out of proportion. Maybe it’d be best if we moved on from this topic. Sorry for causing you this hassle.

 

[PeridotGX]

I'm 95% sure that they're gonna reveal a new Pokemon during The Game Awards, like Meltan and Melmetal. They're telling us to tune in, there's an event and a new update.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

all I say is Bugs and Daffy only for an argument to occur...fine...we’ll leave those 2 for Mortal Kombat (Daffy gotta get revenge anyways)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Okay, I could’ve been more civil with that subject, and for that I apologize. However I do think you may be blowing the whole laughing in your face thing out of proportion. Maybe it’d be best if we moved on from this topic. Sorry for causing you this hassle.

If somebody is clearly laughing your face, I will call them out on it. It's not being blown out of proportion when it actually happened.

You have to remember I'm known for having opinions that don't follow the norm and have literally been treated poorly because of it for years on end. I literally left the Smash Ultimate section as a mod for a while due to this kind of behavior.

You weren't uncivil, to be clear, honestly. Slightly blunt.

I do agree moving on is best, though.

For the record, this is why I almost never put my thoughts on this forum anymore. And it sucks. It shouldn't matter how unpopular an opinion is. Obviously being pointed out the errors is fine. I've made quite a lot of mistakes. Commonly done, unfortunately, is some people are overly rude about it. :/

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Anyway, I'll fix up the rest of the Magnamon colored images with the BG removed and show 'em all here. I need to also show all the colors on the first Magnamon Black image(though that's actually the second recolor, but it's the first I posted here).

 

[ZephyrZ]

Oh it’s about time ZephyrZ got in! Congrats man!
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It's gonna be a mechanized Melee,
A bit of a big bot Brawl!

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

Probably after TGAs might consider reducing my presence a bit.

Give myself a bit of time to reflect on relationships.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

I'd call Mickey the most iconic cartoon character at this point, as well as one of the most iconic characters in fiction overall.

 

[Aurane]

Less than 10 minutes until the thing.

 

[PeridotGX]

I'll never give Nintendo directs a hard time ever again. This Disney Investor Day is about as dry as the sahara.

 

[Wademan94]

I'll never give Nintendo directs a hard time ever again. This Disney Investor Day is about as dry as the sahara.

It’s drier than BOTW2 Ganondorf

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuBIFTuMMpI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWz6v-UAs8Q

Links to the streams. Pre-Show and Full version(which hasn't started yet) in order.

 

[Aurane]

Last guess: Doomguy.

 

[Deleted member]

Anything could happen.

 

[Noipoi]

Let’s boogie

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Final prediction.

Jonesy.

 

[Lamperouge]

Final prediction: Dunkaccino