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[SnakeFighter64]

I didn't know that a realistic "cinematic" art style was apparently more fitting for characters who originated in comic books instead of... you know, a comic book-like art style?

Also, I didn't know that Shuma Gorath and Sentinel, two characters that were in previous games and were popular with fans to the point of generating memes (Mango Sentinel, anyone?), were considered "fluff characters". To say nothing of the other three, who were more recent newcomers that showed not everyone had to be an Avenger and/or X-Man to make it in.

I'd be much more inclined to take your grievances more seriously if it weren't for the fact that the X-Men and Fantastic Four were essentially "blacklisted" and not allowed to appear in Marvel games and cartoons until Disney could get the movie rights back, which, in regards to Marvel vs. Capcom, resulted in multiple mainstays and fan favorites (who should've been in the game from the start and not added in through DLC) getting the shaft.


I remember following MVC3's character reveal cycle (both vanilla and Ultimate), and the reactions to Rocket Raccoon were hilarious. Same with MODOK, who was basically the "Wii Fit Trainer in Smash" of MVC, complete with (awesome-sounding) theme music that ended up turning into a sort of "troll theme song" as a meme.

It's impossible to say "I shouldn't have had to pay for this" without sounding incredibly entitled. Just saying.

And honestly, the rosters of MvC games of the past are all majorly wrong. So many big names and heavy hitters that are just... not there. And who have never been there. It's just wrong.

that cover is literally the biggest issue I have, and it's just because I miss the way the other 2 MUA games did theirs...but it makes up for having the best roster and moves (and of course the acting is top tier)

MUA4 needs to happen by 2023 or 2024 (or even better...whatever year number the MCU will be in)

at this point anything that has little to no storyline will become a main Mario game (tho at least that could come to an end...as time goes by thanks to Odyssey having a plot)

X-Men was the 2nd biggest property Marvel had and is overall their 3rd biggest thing right now (their Pokémon to Spidey's Mario...whenever Spidey had less content than usual that is...otherwise he got the Mickey Mouse treatment). Not only that, but they also represented racism and segregation back in the day (tho of course it didn't have to get into actual race until way later on). You could find a mutant that you could connect to with no problems whatsoever

and Laura is currently a main Wolverine, which is a massive deal

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I doubt it. I've tried to get into X-Men but honestly the realistic racism allegories just turn me off. Not to mention, just being born with your powers and then becoming either a hero or a villain because of racism is incredibly boring to me. There's no connection to their powers and their stories, which is just lame. I just don't like the X-Men. Don't get the hype around them. And would rather other characters get the spotlight. Not saying they shouldn't be in it at all. But in a roster of 60 characters, meaning 30 marvel ones, no more then like... 4 or 5 at max.

 

[Shroob]

It's impossible to say "I shouldn't have had to pay for this" without sounding incredibly entitled. Just saying.

And honestly, the rosters of MvC games of the past are all majorly wrong. So many big names and heavy hitters that are just... not there. And who have never been there. It's just wrong.

I doubt it. I've tried to get into X-Men but honestly the realistic racism allegories just turn me off. Not to mention, just being born with your powers and then becoming either a hero or a villain because of racism is incredibly boring to me. There's no connection to their powers and their stories, which is just lame. I just don't like the X-Men. Don't get the hype around them. And would rather other characters get the spotlight. Not saying they shouldn't be in it at all. But in a roster of 60 characters, meaning 30 marvel ones, no more then like... 4 or 5 at max.

I mean, just saying but, in times like today, the X-MEN are exactly the kind of heroes we need more than ever.


With racism being such a widespread issue more than ever, seems like they're the heroes this country needs more than any spandex wearing superman or batman.

 

[Deleted member]

Speaking of Wolverine, I admit that from time to time I will clench my fists, hoping that giant Wolverine claws come out of the knuckles, and it somehow does not cause pain.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I mean, just saying but, in times like today, the X-MEN are exactly the kind of heroes we need more than ever.


With racism being such a widespread issue more than ever, seems like they're the heroes this country needs more than any spandex wearing superman or batman.

Really? I just disagree. We need examples to live up to. Not victims of bigotry who can't actually stop it or else the comics would end.

 

[Noipoi]

Pokemon fans can't read a dictionary

Why are you calling me out, P?

 

[TheMightyP]

The X-Men would be deemed "too political" in today's climate and would have angry nerds trying to cancel it.

 

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surprising how nobody on the internet has taken the models from MUA3 for more uses outside of Smash Ultimate

I know there's a Captain Marvel mod for UMvC3 using her Infinite moveset, but I think it just uses that model as well.

Could just be the use of primary colors and flashy lighting, but aside from some shading MUA3 reminds me a LOT of MvC3 visually.

 

[Shroob]

Really? I just disagree. We need examples to live up to. Not victims of bigotry who can't actually stop it or else the comics would end.

Hard disagree.


There's nothing wrong with having a superpowered human who can come in and wave every problem away like it was nothing, but it's also important, I'd say, VERY important to have times where they just don't.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

It's impossible to say "I shouldn't have had to pay for this" without sounding incredibly entitled. Just saying.

And honestly, the rosters of MvC games of the past are all majorly wrong. So many big names and heavy hitters that are just... not there. And who have never been there. It's just wrong.

Does it still sound entitled when I bring up that most of Infinite's roster is just returning veterans brought back using assets from UMVC3, and that they could've just brought back most of (if not all of) the other characters if they were just gonna reuse lots of assets anyway? Granted, this is assuming they could've brought back those characters without Disney vetoing them.

Also, the previous MVC games, including the two Marvel fighting games before it became a crossover, were arcade games with generally smaller rosters and were being developed and released almost yearly. Not exactly much room or resources to fit in all of the heavy hitters at the time, and that's without getting into potential rights issues that kept Iron Man out of two of the games...

 

[Deleted member]

The X-Men would be deemed "too political" in today's climate and would have angry nerds trying to cancel it.

Why in the world would someone try to cancel the X-Men? I have seen the films a long time ago, but my memory is blurry.

 

[Deleted member]

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How the **** can someone call Sword/Shield nostalgic when it's the newest ****ing mainline game lmao

Hand over the source. Now.

 

[TheMightyP]

Why in the world would someone try to cancel the X-Men? I have seen the films a long time ago, but my memory is blurry.

The X-Men would be deemed "too political" in today's climate

 

[Shroob]

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Hand over the source. Now.

I was off in that the 2nd to last song is Marnie's theme, but seriously, "Nostalgic"?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Hard disagree.


There's nothing wrong with having a superpowered human who can come in and wave every problem away like it was nothing, but it's also important, I'd say, VERY important to have times where they just don't.

What's the point of having a story where the hero can't overcome the obstacle they face. I find that incredibly unsatisfying and it takes me away from the story. Showing that racism is a problem that can be overcome and defeated might actually, you know, get people to start treating it as a problem that can be overcome and defeated instead of just an inevitable consequence of people having different skin colors. And then, you know, maybe we could actually overcome and defeat it.

 

[Schnee117]

I mean, just saying but, in times like today, the X-MEN are exactly the kind of heroes we need more than ever.


With racism being such a widespread issue more than ever, seems like they're the heroes this country needs more than any spandex wearing superman or batman.

Nah we def need a Superman. We just also need them to actually be about Superman being Superman and not "but what if he was a fascist dictator?"

Batman we really don't need though.

 

[Noipoi]

I was off in that the 2nd to last song is Marnie's theme, but seriously, "Nostalgic"?

In 2020? A pre-COVID world is nostalgic enough for me.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

If the last year taught me anything, they deliberately choose not to read, so that's worse than Pit.

that's just sad

It's impossible to say "I shouldn't have had to pay for this" without sounding incredibly entitled. Just saying.

And honestly, the rosters of MvC games of the past are all majorly wrong. So many big names and heavy hitters that are just... not there. And who have never been there. It's just wrong.

I doubt it. I've tried to get into X-Men but honestly the realistic racism allegories just turn me off. Not to mention, just being born with your powers and then becoming either a hero or a villain because of racism is incredibly boring to me. There's no connection to their powers and their stories, which is just lame. I just don't like the X-Men. Don't get the hype around them. And would rather other characters get the spotlight. Not saying they shouldn't be in it at all. But in a roster of 60 characters, meaning 30 marvel ones, no more then like... 4 or 5 at max.

You don't have to like them, but the realism is what made them popular (a lot of things from Marvel has touched on realism). If they don't touch on current events then how will kids be able to understand how the real world is like without being forced into a terrible situation. Peter with his growing up issues (and the constant losses he's had to overcome), X-Men with discrimination (which can also be shown off by Miles and Kamala if they want to), Iron Man with his alcohol and father issues, Luke Cage and Falcon with the issues black people have to face, and a whole lot more. And most of the mutants actually have stories behind their powers (that would have to be read of course). As for thr spotlight, that's what the MCU is for, as it made a majority of the Marvel roster into megastars without using their biggest stars (Hulk aside, but even then they don't fully have his film rights). Spidey and the X-Men, no matter what project they're in, are the absolute last things from Marvel that would need a limit on them.

Why in the world would someone try to cancel the X-Men? I have seen the films a long time ago, but my memory is blurry.

that's because they wouldn't be cancelled...by smart people. If someone were to attempt and then fail at canceling them, they wouldn't have the knowledge of them representing racism

What's the point of having a story where the hero can't overcome the obstacle they face. I find that incredibly unsatisfying and it takes me away from the story. Showing that racism is a problem that can be overcome and defeated might actually, you know, get people to start treating it as a problem that can be overcome and defeated instead of just an inevitable consequence of people having different skin colors. And then, you know, maybe we could actually overcome and defeat it.

not even a hero can overcome racism. That's something the real world has to realize they should end themselves

I know there's a Captain Marvel mod for UMvC3 using her Infinite moveset, but I think it just uses that model as well.

Could just be the use of primary colors and flashy lighting, but aside from some shading MUA3 reminds me a LOT of MvC3 visually.

in a way you're right

 

[TheMightyP]

What's the point of having a story where the hero can't overcome the obstacle they face. I find that incredibly unsatisfying and it takes me away from the story. Showing that racism is a problem that can be overcome and defeated might actually, you know, get people to start treating it as a problem that can be overcome and defeated instead of just an inevitable consequence of people having different skin colors. And then, you know, maybe we could actually overcome and defeat it.

Snake, let's be real, racism probably isn't going away in our lifetime.

 

[Deleted member]

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Ooooooh.

Spoiler: Politics

The chuds will always do that. I heard that they are even trying to claim that the new Animaniacs is following the "leftist agenda". Just adding a BIPOC or LGBTQ+ character is considered politics according to the chuds. Is that what you mean?

 

[PLATINUM7]

What's the point of having a story where the hero can't overcome the obstacle they face.

Sometimes, it's the attempt that's more important than the result. An, "Or die trying" attitude that people can get behind. It's nicer when the protagonists we root for succeed but we shouldn't devalue stories of people who weren't successful. If we did, there'd probably be a lot less adaptations of true events.

 

[Deleted member]

What's the point of having a story where the hero can't overcome the obstacle they face.

Isn't it obvious? Characters just being... able to win every encounter they face is frankly cliched and boring as hell(there's a reason One Punch Man exists to subvert that very trope)

If there's no hardship, no struggle, what's the point? Even Batman, Superman, and the like all have those little arcs where they face something that seems too tough to handle, whether that be personal(batman's past and how the citizens of Gotham tend to treat him as a criminal) or external(while I haven't watched the movies I think Thanos is a good example?)

 

[Noipoi]

Snake, let's be real, racism probably isn't going away in our lifetime.

Don’t be ridiculous.

Reddit used a black logo. Racism is basically dead.

 

[TheMightyP]

Ooooooh.

Spoiler: Politics

The chuds will always do that. I heard that they are even trying to claim that the new Animaics is following the "leftist agenda". Is that what you mean?

Correct.

Also, racism will never leave, because as long as someone discriminates against another race, it will still be around.

It'll get better, for sure. In fact, it will always get better if history means anything. But it'll never go away. Unless we all become one collective race.

 

[Deleted member]

Don’t be ridiculous.

Reddit used a black logo. Racism is basically dead.

Wait that was what that was about?


... I literally use reddit everyday how did I not know that

 

[Shroob]

What's the point of having a story where the hero can't overcome the obstacle they face. I find that incredibly unsatisfying and it takes me away from the story. Showing that racism is a problem that can be overcome and defeated might actually, you know, get people to start treating it as a problem that can be overcome and defeated instead of just an inevitable consequence of people having different skin colors. And then, you know, maybe we could actually overcome and defeat it.

Because racism isn't something that can be defeated soo easily. No amount of idol worship will instantly make the world a better place. There are people who probably read Superman who probably are racist, completely ignoring the messages and use it as nothing more than an action comic, to think that Superheroes always winning will somehow "fix" it is laughable.


Sometimes, the truth is the best medicine one can swallow. Sometimes, people need to be reminded that life sucks. Life isn't sunshine and rainbows, and while there's nothing inherently wrong with "The good guy saves the day!", sometimes, you need a dose of realism to put you in your place.

 

[Noipoi]

Correct.

Also, racism will never leave, because as long as someone discriminates against another race, it will still be around.

It'll get better, for sure. In fact, it will always get better if history means anything. But it'll never go away. Unless we all become one collective race.

And then we’ll discriminate over who’s a sightly different shade of beige.

 

[Deleted member]

Snake, let's be real, racism probably isn't going away in our lifetime.

Spoiler: Politics

But Joe Biden won! Racism is over! We can go back to brunch!
(This is sarcasm.)

 

[PLATINUM7]

People who probably read Superman probably are racist,

What did Superman readers ever do to you Shroob?

 

[Shroob]

What did Superman readers ever do to you Shroob?

Okay you know what I meant!

 

[TheMightyP]

Don’t be ridiculous.

Reddit used a black logo. Racism is basically dead.

Racism was actually eliminated in 1964 when the government made it illegal. And again in 2008 when Obama won. And again in 2012 when he won for a second time.

Because racism isn't something that can be defeated soo easily. No amount of idol worship will instantly make the world a better place. People who probably read Superman probably are racist, completely ignoring the messages and use it as nothing more than an action comic, to think that Superheroes always winning will somehow "fix" it is laughable.


Sometimes, the truth is the best medicine one can swallow. Sometimes, people need to be reminded that life sucks. Life isn't sunshine and rainbows, and while there's nothing inherently wrong with "The good guy saves the day!", sometimes, you need a dose of realism to put you in your place.

Not trying to start something, but you are the second person know who stated that Superman is actually hardcore conservative and lowkey racist, which is odd that it happened twice, you know.

 

[CannonStreak]

We're talking about racism now? Something tells me this won't end well...

 

[Deleted member]

We're talking about racism now? Something tells me this won't end well...

It already hasn't ended well lol

 

[CannonStreak]

It already hasn't ended well lol

No, you think? At this point, it can only get worse.

 

[TheMightyP]

We're talking about racism now? Something tells me this won't end well...

It'll end fine.


Anyways, yo yo, if there are any closeted racists in here, please come out. We're not gonna hurt you

 

[CannonStreak]

It'll end fine.


Anyways, yo yo, if there are any closeted racists in here, please come out. We're not gonna hurt you

I will. I will hurt them. Naw, just kidding!

But still, I can't imagine this ending well, or at least see anything good come out of this.

 

[TheMightyP]

I will. I will hurt them.

Fixed that for you

 

[Deleted member]

Anyways, yo yo, if there are any closeted racists in here, please come out.

pulls out pitchfork

We're not gonna hurt you

puts away pitchfork

 

[PLATINUM7]

Racism was actually eliminated in 1964 when the government made it illegal. And again in 2008 when Obama won. And again in 2012 when he won for a second time.

Not trying to start something, but you are the second person know who stated that Superman is actually hardcore conservative and lowkey racist, which is odd that it happened twice, you know.

I don't know about racism but I can see if you went in with a literary analysis lens you might come say that Superman is conservative. In various canons he's come at odds with Batman for their different views on how the Justice League should operate. Superman tends to be a US government lapdog whereas Batman prefers a vigilante approach to do things governments won't. Then there's also the whole Red Son thing. It would, however, be a bit ironic that a literal alien would be linked to notions of supporting racial discrimination.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

There are people who probably read Superman who probably are racist,

Not trying to start something, but you are the second person know who stated that Superman is actually hardcore conservative and lowkey racist, which is odd that it happened twice, you know.

If anything, Superman is probably the last character I'd expect to be racist, considering the guy fought the KKK one time (in a radio show, not a comic, but still...)

 

[CannonStreak]

Fixed that for you

Yeah, nice try! Like I meant that!