Zone
Smash Champion
Only when landing a f tilt is almost a guarantee. Such as after a jab reset or after a dash attack ect. You can beat some moves with it but cuz of how long it takes for it to end its risky
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the secret zelda strats discussionzone
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GKInfinity
Smash Champion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SigTEZulrO4
I haven't watched this yet and can't actually watch it ATM but I'm gonna assume it's pretty legit. Lol, I've actually done the zelda/kirby team before in tournament (In genesis pools vs M2k and jman for instance). It's not as terrible as one might assume.
I haven't watched this yet and can't actually watch it ATM but I'm gonna assume it's pretty legit. Lol, I've actually done the zelda/kirby team before in tournament (In genesis pools vs M2k and jman for instance). It's not as terrible as one might assume.
It's still terrible though.
Andymosity
Smash Journeyman
wow. that was an awesome video. armada has really good spacing with those bairs and fairs
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
So um ... dead?
Seriously, where are all the Zeldas hiding? Lol.
Seriously, where are all the Zeldas hiding? Lol.
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I'm in the Lucario boards XD
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Zelda is too fun. I need people to tell me what to do in various matchups.
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Space toes, lol. But seriously, it does go deeper than that. Like if you get a grab on Marth/Ganondorf/Sheik/Link and maybe Roy and DK (I've never tried it on them), I go for uthrow uair/toes. Opponents often think they're still in hitstun. I know Marth/Sheik/Link don't do so well in the air so it also puts them in a bit of a bad position
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
The Marth match-up is so hard... **** that sword 
I feel like that match-up is get lucky hits, trade as much as possible, get lucky toes... though fair/bair oos ***** mis-spaced aerials and the occasional fsmash, especially when they DI up and/or in at lower percents so I can get a second toe in, or a grab.
I feel like that match-up is get lucky hits, trade as much as possible, get lucky toes... though fair/bair oos ***** mis-spaced aerials and the occasional fsmash, especially when they DI up and/or in at lower percents so I can get a second toe in, or a grab.
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Definitely out of shield toes. Marth spaces himself for them
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
I love cc a Marth fair
and then using neutral B
aahhhh ****
:mango:
(use sparingly and only when Marth is past like... 50ish% or so)
and then using neutral B
aahhhh ****
:mango:
(use sparingly and only when Marth is past like... 50ish% or so)
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
down smash is actually more practical, neutral b is just more of a mix up/ they think they get more damage so they get cautious lol
plus I've never witnessed anyone tech that, whereas after a while my opponent learn to tech the downsmash.
plus I've never witnessed anyone tech that, whereas after a while my opponent learn to tech the downsmash.
Zone
Smash Champion
Funny you say that. I never really realized that was the case til you said something. Maybe it has something to do with Neutral B feeling like it won't knock you down like it does. Cuz you're sorta standing up the entire time until the last hit. Kinda like Falcon's rapid punches but it ends with a gentlemen in reverse instead.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
does any1 else tech chase or edge guard with dins fire it *****
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
That sounds sexy.
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din's fire > kick is an amazing edge guard. it either sets them up for a kick or just combos outright.
nekokatsu
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yeah, i used that setup a lot, but its really hard to do, maybe its not that hard but if u miss is gonna hurt, i preffer going off stage and kick them out, i do that to peach, marth, luigi & doc (these 2 i kick them after they do the down B to fly up), in some cases to fox and falco, but my im starting to get read everytime i try to use those tricks... so maybe its time to learn dins fire.
@umbreon, do u use din against every char???
@umbreon, do u use din against every char???
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only the obvious ones. so like, not marth. etc.
Zone
Smash Champion
Lol I was in Orlando tourney this last weekend everyone who didn't know me was Asking me if I was cosmo
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at Apex RaynEX thought I was Lake. I felt awesome ^.^
Kyu Puff
Smash Champion
zelda vs luigi
worst match-up ever?
worst match-up ever?
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
Yeah that MU sucks
idk about the worst match up ever though haha
idk about the worst match up ever though haha
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Luigi's edgeguards on Zelda are deadly.
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
I've had to play a luigi at every tournament that I've gone to so far that's had pools instead of just a bracket. It sucks
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
I haven't really seen that matchup. I know some Luigis who would destroy my Zelda though. (Talking like I have a Zelda. Lol. But I want one! ).
).
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
But DK can KO with punch, can't he? He should always have one fully charged, since Zelda isn't fast enough to chase you down. If you always have a punch ready, Zelda has to be more cautious in the air, giving you more flexibility with bair; and if she goes in her shield more, those are additional grab opportunities.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
What? Punch is, like, one of DK's best moves vs low tiers ...
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
To beat zelda with DK, have a punch ready at all times and spam bair. Throw out a punch whenever you feel the situation calls for one. But generally speaking, if you just space bair well enough zelda can't do much actually (at least not in my experience)
Zone
Smash Champion
I've yet to get ***** by a DK, I hope it happens some day :D
(I mean as Zelda, I've been ***** by DK as captain falcon before)
Although I think if you jump out to kick DK after his b-air, he can l-cancel to beat your kick with Up+B if he delays his b-air on your shield. Kind of a mix up I guess. I say I think cuz I didn't get to thoroughly test it, because I might've just messed up when i kept getting hit by it.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
The thing about nair is ... instead of doing it, you can just cross them up with a kick instead. Lol.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
zel beats dk pretty good dk has no shield v zel kicks poke and fsmash always pokes and dtilt always pokes
zel def has advantage
zel def has advantage
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
yea
Zelda > DK
yea
Kicks and FSmash
yea
Zelda > DK
yea
Kicks and FSmash
yea
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
I'll believe it when I see it. I have had no such luck
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
k bro ive two stocked bum is that proof or wat
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
Yeah I don't doubt what you're saying, I was really just hoping for a link to a video where a zelda beats a good dk or something
Or some insight into how you beat bair spam
Or some insight into how you beat bair spam