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This.
Were your feelings hurt because I suggested that being good at the game counts?
How could you do such a thing! He was just a poor scrub. You should be ashamed of hurting a bad player's feelings.Were your feelings hurt because I suggested that being good at the game counts?
Theory must be supported by fact, of course, but it's ultimately the attributes which define what is and what isn't banworthy.
Good thing I'm not one of those people.
I am not scrub. I am da man that believe in theory as much as practice, because in future, they wil merge to a point when MK will be banned/SSB4 will be released. They are only half-merged at this point, but banning MK/hacking/playing SSBM is only way how to keep this game playable in future. I hope ya got it.
That would make me laugh if I wouldn´t hear that ******scrubby nonsense all over this place. MK isn´t only CHARACTER, CPU that you can find safe strategy to beat it. It is a player as well, and guess what, he CAN GET BETTER AS WELL. And with BETTER CHARACTER. And guess what, he will beat you thanks to him using better character. It isn´t like MK has any weakness. When there is someone you CAN beat, when he don´t have MK and can´t beat when he does, right thing to do isn´t to get better, but to pick better option on character selection screen, period.
Right. I don´t like ****** that say "lrnMU" when MK can do say.. They pretend MKs are bad, what is wrong.. :/
Items don't add an extra layer of strategy, they make the game even more shallow(who'd have thought this was possible in brawl...) because standard methods of fighting are strictly inferior to "run away and get items first".
These two compliment each other greatly if you think about it. Run + look around for the best items = big advantage.
Who cares about low tier? Even though I main bottom tier myslef, I don´t think it is important whether they make low or even mid tier or maybe even high tier unviable. It is important whether they make TOP tiers inviable, which MK with his matchups practially does.
best characters in the game vs MK IMO
7-3?
gtfoI will never forgive Brawl's removal of the Red Shell
shhhh... you gonna get the anti-banners mad and they gonna say that MK clearly has exploitable weaknesses.
yes, yes he can. both characters have a lot of unique tools that allow them a chance, yes an equally skilled/experienced MK will win, but that's not to say that a ROB/Marth can't win simply by being the better player.
Yes, but first you need overcentralization to happen and THEN evaluate if something is broken due to forced overcentralization or if its just bandwaggon effect by checking its attributes, not the other way around.
Remember apex?
his moves all have lag, many are very low lag, some are absurdly low lag(glide attack mostly), but none of them are "no lag". I think that is debatable, marth's has more range and he has better air movement, but MK's is multihit which protects him from a lot of power shielding.
Wrong much? Marth has less range than MK EVERYWHERE. I think Tipper Fsmash is the only place that he has more range, and I'm not even sure about that.
marth's fair outranges MK's by a pretty obvious amount. MK mostly outranges marth on the ground with tilts...and SB has more range than fsmash, you don't even know marth's range compared against his own moveset why are you bothering to compare it to anyone elses? true though that marth's range is often in unsafe moves like these.
I've never had a huge issue with this, it leaves MK open for 12 frames, 5 on shield drop, which would be 9 or 10 if he goes right to dsmash as you say, plenty of time for me to shield > ftilt for 21% : ) if he shields then there is literally no margin for error, but then he has to guess what you're doing, which doesn't break the normal play of the game at all...
below stage SL can be punished if you space yourself outside of its hitbox pretty easily, you don't have to wait for him to hit the ground before you start, and if you have a good power move that has the range it's a bad option for him if you cover it. tornado is safe situationally if he runs to SV's moving platform or to any platform if you're a character with bad mobility, but if he sits right on top of you with it? that's not safe.
Marths Fair>MKs yes, but it doesn't matter, because Mk's tilts outrange Snakes tilts, and marth loses to snake on range, so how is this valid? Mk completley outranges marth on the ground, so why leave the ground? Marth wouldn't have a problem with Mk if he didn't get outranged in the most basic level.
marth loses to snake because of his survivability/power output and camping more than his tilt range, snake has mediocre air defense and doesn't have much other than retreating against a marth that spaces perfectly, and he only barely loses to snake.
What? Yes, Snakes survivablilty is a problem, but Marth can beat people with great survivability by spacing so well that he doesn't get hit. The range is the problem, because he can obsolete most of the cast via range/mobility. Who are the three characters he loses to? MK snake d3. What do they all have in common? range.
Upb the tornado anytime soon? Tornado is a horrible approach, and it can be upbed out of. It has too much startup time to be used as a counter. As long as the marth does more than retreating Fair, the nado isn't that much of an issue. Yes, it beats his aerials, but that isn't all marth does.
Plaese don't insult me like that. I'm noit saying it's horrible against him, I'm saying that it's far from the be all end all against him. He loses to people who can punish his poking game, ALA MK,, Snake, D3.
