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I'm still thinking about a solution. Maybe once per week, we'd discuss Rosalina's match-ups against five different characters. Five characters per week would basically mean that all of them would be covered by the 10th week, though I'm still wondering if the Mii Fighters should be included as well.
Probably because they're banned from random online matches. If I include them, then that would add up to 50 match-ups that we'll eventually cover to the fullest before Mewtwo enters the fray.
Unless I missed a memo there's no serious movement to ban them from tournaments, where matchup discussion would be the most relevant. They may not be a common sight, but we should probably have something about them even if it's just "here's what they can do that's affected by GPull."
This is pretty much why I'm thinking about doing 5 characters per week, but it'll be a couple more weeks before I start designing the thread.
Even if you do 5 a week it will be very messy because different character discussions will be mixed in the conversation each week.
sub-forum style just tickles my fancy as far as the organization and depth of analysis goes. I'm sure that we can all figure it out together. :3// go, I personally believe that they would warrant discussion since they exist, but every other character would have priority over them since there's no general consensus as of yet. will even be worth worrying over for analysis until at LEAST this upcoming summer.
It's a bit early to throw out exact matchup numbers like that, but for right now at least I'd say Sheik, ZSS, Peach, Jigglypuff, and maybe Wario are some of your best bets. Sheik and ZSS are fast rushdown types that have the necessary mobility to work around Luma and ZSS in particular can use Paralyzer to stop Luma cold. Peach, Jigglypuff, and Wario have excellent aerial control, which is helpful for avoiding Luma since it stays on the ground whenever possible.
After 600 matches of For Glory 1-on-1 as Rosalina, the match up that seems to give me the most trouble is... other Rosalina. No joke. Probably a sign that the character is just that good.
Yeah, Wario isn't quite as solid since Luma Shot beats the bike every time, although IDK how important that move generally is. His weird momentum glitch also makes gimping him basically impossible. But he has aerial mobility which IMO is the important thing.
What, do you mean that you shieldgrab his forward b?
Yeah, you shield grab his forward B, taking him off the bike.
The Yoshis I've played against seemed unable to deal with uair juggles. That doesn't really answer your specific question but that's all the insight I have against him.
Luma can't spotdodge so it's probably out of luck.
For DDD, I've found the late hitbox of nair knocks back the gordos diagonally downward. It's definitely not the fastest option, but it's a decent approach through them. I've really only had success against Ganons with a strong gimp game. Basically playing the matchup like it was Little Mac. Give them respect, space as far away from them as you can, and be unrelenting offstage. Unfortunately, I have all of the same problems with ROB. Your guess is as good as mine on how to handle the MU.
As my third main, I don't think he's the best choice against Rosalina.
The ****, how do you do that? Or is it random
Dunno how it happens exactly. There was a video of it but I don't know where I'd find it right now.
ikr. They get me every time too.
Yep, this. I totally agree with you, once again. A good Toon Link can put up a wall that can completely shutdown every single one of Rosalina's approaches except like, running shield. He's fast enough to separate Luma in melee and the bombs can also separate them on shield. There's seriously no getting through to him. One advantage I'd say she has is she can gimp him off the stage, but even then it's still a coin flip. She can also space him up close, but, projectiles can still hurt mid range.
For Diddy's Banana, it's easily countered with Graviational Pull. If you use GP just as Diddy is throwing the banana and are close enough while doing this, he immediately trips over the banana. This is because GP makes Rosalina the "owner" of item projectiles as soon as it catches them, so if you catch it immediately as it's thrown, then it will become your banana while the hitbox of the banana is still over Diddy. You can do something similar with ROB's gyro, in that it leaves a spinning hit box on the floor for him, and using it just as he throws it means he immediately takes damage. Also works with Peach's turnips. It's most useful against Diddy's bananas though, since it trips him up, leaving him wide open for a follow up. This trick pretty much turns the tables against Diddy, as it makes one of his best tricks really easy to use against him.
There it is, DHD's projectiles getting canceled:
anyone have any theories about why this happens?
