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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

ZanZero

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God, I feel like a heretic saying this...
...I just realized how much more I like his Roidley design than his classic design.
The proportions are so much better in my eyes, and he seems much more of a badass.
Duck billed face and all.

On the note of those Ridley mods for brawl, I really feel the reason he is so awkward is because he's always floating.
And the fact that in all of them his body is far too much downsized so he can be splayed out.
In all honesty, he should be larger than bowser in overall size, while a bit more scrunched together to keep his actual hurtbox and general size still feeling character-like while not breaking that border into boss size.
Think roidley's second picture in BaganSmashBros' post, but in a bit more of a "All fours" kind of stance.
 

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I mean I like K. rool

he's a cool guy. I'd like to see him playable.

but I'm just not as much of a fan of the DK series in general. I'd much prefer Ridley to K. Rool, and Rool getting in would not make me feel better if ridley were excluded.

I'd be happy if Ridley were playable and K rool weren't.
 

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Not smash related in general in there own games.
Example Ridley is not on par with bowser of course but do you think K. Rool??
Still confused?

Ridley has never been the final boss I don't think but is more threatening then K Rool in terms of actions. And K Rool is on holidays while Ridley will forever remain.

Does that answer the question? I like K Rool but I prefer Ridley.
 

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In case the size arguments continue, everyone should be aware that Ganondorf was actually sized UP for the last fight in Twilight Princess. He is canonically 230cm/7'6" tall. Boss=large is clearly common in Nintendo's games.

Found a pic in which Ridley's model doesn't look awkward when grounded.

God I love Metroid Prime.
You're not allowed to post Meta Ridley pics unless it's from Prime 3! That model is too well proportioned, how will detractor's argue now?!
 

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In your guys opinions

Is Ridley on par with K. Rool?
Personal preference? I love K. Rool, but nobody is on par with Ridley imo.

Popularity-wise he sure does outdo K. Rool in the west, it's the east and their 'don't-care' attitude towards Metroid that makes K. Rool gain the upper hand in the end.

Chance-wise I think they're about even, both are among the most likely newcomers to break the Gematsu leak if any.
 

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I think you're underestimating how tall Rosalina is...
Well give or take ridleys height on the shadow they are almost to a T of the height i think ridley would be just slightly taller than rosalina.

But if ridleys is too tall i can shrink him a hair.
 
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Well give or take ridleys height on the shadow they are almost to a T of the height i think ridley would be just slightly taller than rosalina.

But if ridleys is too tall i can shrink him a hair.
...
If that's true he's actually too big. I can't believe I said that but Rosalina is really tall.

EDIT: Didn't see your edit, okay.
 
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If Ridley is in I think we'll mostly see him crawling on all fours. Makes him slower, smaller, and more manageable. I'm just curious in how they would handle him in the air.
 

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Neither have i...Sure i can do more, its just a matter of time...if that is what you meant. I can make them take Super Metroid pose if needed.
So, just side, from above, behind and...um...profile...angles?
Um, well, take them from the angles you want :3 they all can be helpful! :D Thanks!
 

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ok just so im telling time too show how big I think ridley is in the game



any thoughts?
looks a little too big to me, but then again the wings always make him seem bigger than he is.

It's really hard to tell with that picture because the scale is funny, mario only comes up to the knee of the fairy princess, lol
 

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I like it better, but that picture is still a terrible place to try and imagine scale, haha. I know the pyrosphere is overdone, but Pac land is a nightmare. (not that I dislike the stage, it is just very confusing visually)
 

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Every time I hear the size card I picture this


Homer = detractor
Marge = argument
 

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Ok that answer was immature, this is from the Hobbit right? Regardless, the answer is
time.
Actually, It's "Dark".






Anyways, Do You Suppose we'll get a collective villains trailer in August? There are a few good reasons why I think this could be the case:
1. Greninja/Charizard combo trailer proves that multiple reveals can happen for one trailer
2 . besides Bowser, every villain has yet shown off. even Anti-Heroes like Wario and Meta Knight
3. Ridley, of course
4. August is an opportune moment to show off Ganondorf, because of the Japanese release of Hyrule Warriors in August and close proximity to the release of Sm4sh in Japan
5. Makes sense for revealing multiple villians, like Mewtwo, K.Rool, Medusa, Ridley, ect.

I Imagine it as such:

We start out in an area similar to the setting of the Greninja and Mega Man Trailers. we start from a bird's eye view, and see a large, dragon-like shadow fly across the ground. soon, we switch views, and see Mario, Link, Samus, Kirby, DK, Fox, and Pikachu gaze at the canyon in front of them, which is covered in fog. from the Fog emerges Bowser, as well as a large horde of enemies (all of which are in Smash run) behind him. soon, Wario emerges out of the fog driving his motorcycle (WARIO BARGES IN!), followed by Meta Knight flying out of the fog soon after (META KNIGHT UNSHEATHS HIS BLADE). a Wolfen flys overhead, and Wolf jumps out of it, landing close to the other 3 (WOLF WILL BE THE ONE TO TAKE YOU DOWN!). soon, a cannonball is fired out from the fog, and a large, ominous figure marches out of the fog, laughing sinisterly.

KING K.ROOL KRUISES IN! (or something like that........)

after a montage of K.Rool Gameplay, the trailer ends, with Mewtwo teleporting in (MEWTWO STRIKES BACK!), along with the last villain to exit the fog. laughing manically, sword in hand, GANONDORF SEES TO YOUR DEMISE. the Heroes and villains line up, each hero prepared to engage their enemy, and it scrolls across each villain and hero, until it reaches Samus, at which point, the screen goes black...........

WARNING! CHALLENGER APPROACHING!

a loud screech is heard, and everyone turns their head to a large volcanic peak. at the top, a geyser of lava is rising high into the sky, and a dragon-like silhouette can be seen through it. the heroes look alarmed, but the villains are smiling smugly. Ganondorf gives a loud shout and aims his sword at the heroes, and the silhouette launches into the air, coated in lava. it looks really cool. it fly's down into the canyon, launching fireballs at the heroes, who, much like in the Charizard trailer, are launching projectiles at it. eventually, it lands with the other villains, and with a swift flap of the wings, casts off it's lava coating

RIDLEY FLYS INTO THE FRAY!

we get a large montage of Ridley gameplay, as well as gameplay footage of Mewtwo and Ganondorf, who have revised movesets.

END.
 

Smashoperatingbuddy123

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I like it better, but that picture is still a terrible place to try and imagine scale, haha. I know the pyrosphere is overdone, but Pac land is a nightmare. (not that I dislike the stage, it is just very confusing visually)
Believe i did not like the stage either (its good but just not for a ridley size comparison.)

But if you can find me a rosalina standing straight like that and room for ridley too be in i can do that one.
 

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Falcons are birds, birds fly, and Ridley flys

But Falco prefers the ground apparently, so not a good match
 

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Believe i did not like the stage either (its good but just not for a ridley size comparison.)

But if you can find me a rosalina standing straight like that and room for ridley too be in i can do that one.
Well, I think you did the size well, at least. I'm sure if you went through the E3 game play videos, you could get a good screenshot of Rosalina upright, but I'm too lazy to do that xD
 
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Size Ridley with Pichu. It would involve so much complex math involving shadows and past stages that people will just give up, and let you win the argument. :4pacman:
 

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I agree that this Ridley hack doesn`t looks right, but that is only because of Ridley`s model they used having Charizard`s rig. It makes him look bizzare and detractors usually use this hack to show how wrong Ridley would look. Compare it to this:

Looks better, right? If no, then why? Missing feet doesn`t counts.
Tail should NOT be part of Ridley`s hurtboxes. Im not saying that it couldn`t be. They should never be part of his hurtboxes. Tail is always his only part that is not a weak spot in Metroid games. In Metroid Prime games, it is one of the parts of Ridley that are not his weak points. It can even block Hyper Beam, something that even Kraid and Crocomire can`t.
Good night, Jerry..?

That was entertaining. Now we can finally go back to discussing Kraid`s new haircut. Do you like how it looks?
There a video that shows that ridley in action?
 

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Actually, It's "Dark".






Anyways, Do You Suppose we'll get a collective villains trailer in August? There are a few good reasons why I think this could be the case:
1. Greninja/Charizard combo trailer proves that multiple reveals can happen for one trailer
2 . besides Bowser, every villain has yet shown off. even Anti-Heroes like Wario and Meta Knight
3. Ridley, of course
4. August is an opportune moment to show off Ganondorf, because of the Japanese release of Hyrule Warriors in August and close proximity to the release of Sm4sh in Japan
5. Makes sense for revealing multiple villians, like Mewtwo, K.Rool, Medusa, Ridley, ect.

I Imagine it as such:

We start out in an area similar to the setting of the Greninja and Mega Man Trailers. we start from a bird's eye view, and see a large, dragon-like shadow fly across the ground. soon, we switch views, and see Mario, Link, Samus, Kirby, DK, Fox, and Pikachu gaze at the canyon in front of them, which is covered in fog. from the Fog emerges Bowser, as well as a large horde of enemies (all of which are in Smash run) behind him. soon, Wario emerges out of the fog driving his motorcycle (WARIO BARGES IN!), followed by Meta Knight flying out of the fog soon after (META KNIGHT UNSHEATHS HIS BLADE). a Wolfen flys overhead, and Wolf jumps out of it, landing close to the other 3 (WOLF WILL BE THE ONE TO TAKE YOU DOWN!). soon, a cannonball is fired out from the fog, and a large, ominous figure marches out of the fog, laughing sinisterly.

KING K.ROOL KRUISES IN! (or something like that........)

after a montage of K.Rool Gameplay, the trailer ends, with Mewtwo teleporting in (MEWTWO STRIKES BACK!), along with the last villain to exit the fog. laughing manically, sword in hand, GANONDORF SEES TO YOUR DEMISE. the Heroes and villains line up, each hero prepared to engage their enemy, and it scrolls across each villain and hero, until it reaches Samus, at which point, the screen goes black...........

WARNING! CHALLENGER APPROACHING!

a loud screech is heard, and everyone turns their head to a large volcanic peak. at the top, a geyser of lava is rising high into the sky, and a dragon-like silhouette can be seen through it. the heroes look alarmed, but the villains are smiling smugly. Ganondorf gives a loud shout and aims his sword at the heroes, and the silhouette launches into the air, coated in lava. it looks really cool. it fly's down into the canyon, launching fireballs at the heroes, who, much like in the Charizard trailer, are launching projectiles at it. eventually, it lands with the other villains, and with a swift flap of the wings, casts off it's lava coating

RIDLEY FLYS INTO THE FRAY!

we get a large montage of Ridley gameplay, as well as gameplay footage of Mewtwo and Ganondorf, who have revised movesets.

END.
Unless Sakurai truly is giving up on keeping characters secret (which is very doubtful), we won't be getting any sort of mass reveal trailer like that. We will very likely have to wait until release (or until the Japanese spoilers) to see our villains.
 

Smashoperatingbuddy123

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Actually, It's "Dark".






Anyways, Do You Suppose we'll get a collective villains trailer in August? There are a few good reasons why I think this could be the case:
1. Greninja/Charizard combo trailer proves that multiple reveals can happen for one trailer
2 . besides Bowser, every villain has yet shown off. even Anti-Heroes like Wario and Meta Knight
3. Ridley, of course
4. August is an opportune moment to show off Ganondorf, because of the Japanese release of Hyrule Warriors in August and close proximity to the release of Sm4sh in Japan
5. Makes sense for revealing multiple villians, like Mewtwo, K.Rool, Medusa, Ridley, ect.

I Imagine it as such:

We start out in an area similar to the setting of the Greninja and Mega Man Trailers. we start from a bird's eye view, and see a large, dragon-like shadow fly across the ground. soon, we switch views, and see Mario, Link, Samus, Kirby, DK, Fox, and Pikachu gaze at the canyon in front of them, which is covered in fog. from the Fog emerges Bowser, as well as a large horde of enemies (all of which are in Smash run) behind him. soon, Wario emerges out of the fog driving his motorcycle (WARIO BARGES IN!), followed by Meta Knight flying out of the fog soon after (META KNIGHT UNSHEATHS HIS BLADE). a Wolfen flys overhead, and Wolf jumps out of it, landing close to the other 3 (WOLF WILL BE THE ONE TO TAKE YOU DOWN!). soon, a cannonball is fired out from the fog, and a large, ominous figure marches out of the fog, laughing sinisterly.

KING K.ROOL KRUISES IN! (or something like that........)

after a montage of K.Rool Gameplay, the trailer ends, with Mewtwo teleporting in (MEWTWO STRIKES BACK!), along with the last villain to exit the fog. laughing manically, sword in hand, GANONDORF SEES TO YOUR DEMISE. the Heroes and villains line up, each hero prepared to engage their enemy, and it scrolls across each villain and hero, until it reaches Samus, at which point, the screen goes black...........

WARNING! CHALLENGER APPROACHING!

a loud screech is heard, and everyone turns their head to a large volcanic peak. at the top, a geyser of lava is rising high into the sky, and a dragon-like silhouette can be seen through it. the heroes look alarmed, but the villains are smiling smugly. Ganondorf gives a loud shout and aims his sword at the heroes, and the silhouette launches into the air, coated in lava. it looks really cool. it fly's down into the canyon, launching fireballs at the heroes, who, much like in the Charizard trailer, are launching projectiles at it. eventually, it lands with the other villains, and with a swift flap of the wings, casts off it's lava coating

RIDLEY FLYS INTO THE FRAY!

we get a large montage of Ridley gameplay, as well as gameplay footage of Mewtwo and Ganondorf, who have revised movesets.

END.
Oh that would be the best trailer ever

But sadly i really doubt we would get a 2 newcomers and 4 veterans trailer, i mean especially because of the chracters saved for unlockable.
 
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