Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Con0rrrr]

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Your ignorance hurts my soul.

There's a difference between pessimism and realism. The Gematsu Leak is becoming more and more irrefutable as time goes on, cementing that the roster is going to be one big missed opportunity. I'm sorry that I'm smart enough to move on to a new cause, one that actually has a point, but it's my right to be an ******* as long as it's not directed at other users.

Go preach to someone else. I'm not the only one who's lost hope. I'm not the first, and I won't be the last.

Gematsu leak is not the rest of the newcomers. It is just some of them

 

[Zapster]

Have you posted anything that hasn't involved whining in the last few hours? I see you posting constantly, but its just pessimism and vibe-killing. You've given up hope. We get it. But others on here haven't, so stop dragging everyone down. Ridley's odds have not been affected in any way, outside of no new Metroid game (meaning no game to build hype for). We won't know anything for sure until Sakurai decides its time, or the game comes out and we figure it out on our own. Go play Project M right now and make that Ridley character yourself.

AMEN.

Plus, it seems with SSB4 that Sakurai is removing the limitations he slapped on Brawl to include things that Brawl could have only dreamt of. He said he didn't feel like the Villager or Mii were suitable SSB characters at the time of Brawl, but he has since changed his mind.

Here's to Ridley! Cheers!

 

[UltimateWario]

I would point out that Ridley has been deconfirmed for months and the "false hope" is being artificially created by people who refuse to accept that. This bitterness was always going to be here, but at some point you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that regardless of what you might think, Sakurai does not believe Ridley is possible or practical as a playable Smash fighter.

I haven't believed for a second that Ridley was playable after the Direct.

But you can't seriously look at the ambiguity of the "deconfirmation", then look at all the people, all the time and effort that went into analyzing it, then say that it's just made up. If Sakurai didn't want to give people hope, he wouldn't have been such a pill about "revealing" Ridley's true nature.

Sakurai is partially at fault here, if not only because he was unnecessarily vague about Ridley as a boss.

 

[Ultinarok]

It would be a lot easier to argue with you if you made your statements a little more coherent.

Your sass, however, is hilarious, and I demand more of it.

Thanks, I try. And are you sure coherence is the problem here? I thought I was pretty clear...eh, must be my ignorance again.

I was able to take a pic of the select stage screen on the stream :

It doesn't seems to have Pyrosphere indeed =/

To be fair, its missing a ton of stages. So honestly, its exclusion may or may not be intentional and Ridley-related. It doesn't really suggest anything about him at all.

 

[Deleted member]

I would point out that Ridley has been deconfirmed for months and the "false hope" is being artificially created by people who refuse to accept that. This bitterness was always going to be here, but at some point you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that regardless of what you might think, Sakurai does not believe Ridley is possible or practical as a playable Smash fighter.

Can you quote this "decofirmation"? No? Can you show a pic? No? So, he's not deconfirmed

 

[The King of Skulls]

I would point out that Ridley has been deconfirmed for months and the "false hope" is being artificially created by people who refuse to accept that. This bitterness was always going to be here, but at some point you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that regardless of what you might think, Sakurai does not believe Ridley is possible or practical as a playable Smash fighter.

You know, I'm inclined to tell you that vague implications are not direct disconfirmations, but I'll keep quiet for now as that appears to be the case.

 

[Malle]

I remember Sakurai saying in the interview

"He might be a little slow, would that be alright?"

Consider this not as his movement, but the reveal instead perhaps?

 

[UltimateWario]

Just because the Gematsu leak is true doesn't mean we won't get anymore newcomers. That has already been said on this thread multiple times.

Gematsu leak is not the rest of the newcomers. It is just some of them

So like...he just "happened" to leave out the likes of Ridley, K. Rool, Mewtwo...?

seemslegit.targa

 

[The King of Skulls]

I remember Sakurai saying in the interview

"He might be a little slow, would that be alright?"

Consider this not as his movement, but the reveal instead perhaps?

Wow....

That's actually a good piece of foreshadowing should Ridley be revealed.

 

[Oasis_S]

It was vague???

 

[ultimatekoopa]

So like...he just "happened" to leave out the likes of Ridley, K. Rool, Mewtwo...?

seemslegit.targa

The guy didn't leak Rosalina, you can't say he has all the newcomers for that, not even the guy himself has mentioned about it being "the last newcomers"

 

[JohnathanACE]

So like...he just "happened" to leave out the likes of Ridley, K. Rool, Mewtwo...?

seemslegit.targa

I doubt his source gave him all the information, I mean just today he gave him some new (even though it was small) information. Plus the game is still being worked on so they could be added last minute.

 

[Ultinarok]

I remember Sakurai saying in the interview

"He might be a little slow, would that be alright?"

Consider this not as his movement, but the reveal instead perhaps?

Wasn't that when he was asked about it in Brawl? He said something to the effect of "I think that would be pretty impossible for him to be in. If we tried really hard, we might be able to do it. He might be a little slow though, would that be alright? *laughs*" I think he was talking about balancing him by having to make him slow. And hey, the Ridley shadow on Pyrosphere moves a hell of a lot slower than Ridley typically does, so hey, maybe.

 

[Cobalsh]

Watch Sakurai reveal playable Ridley and say, "We wanted him to be playable in Brawl, but it wouldn't work."


Yeah ****ing right.

 

[I Bet You Can]

I like that a bunch of downers and assholes have gotten on this thread and started talking smack just because they haven't seen Ridley yet. Save your bull**** until the game releases.

 

[Kamiko]

@ UltimateWario : You have the best avatar right now.

 

[ACDC]

The hype is gone, the new smash won't be as good as melee.

 

[JohnathanACE]

The hype is gone, the new smash won't be as good as melee.

Really? Not you too!! Come on bro stay positive!!

 

[Cobalsh]

I like that a bunch of downers and *******s have gotten on this thread and started talking smack just because they haven't seen Ridley yet. Save your bull**** until the game releases.

You are very mature in how you take care of these people.

 

[ACDC]

Really? Not you too!! Come on bro stay positive!!

I was set on buying both versions but now I'll need the new the 3ds version to convince me that my first impressions are wrong. I mean at least the graphics are amazing I'll give them that. But gameplay to me is much more important

 

[Kamiko]

I was set on buying both versions but now I'll need the new the 3ds version to convince me that my first impressions are wrong. I mean at least the graphics are amazing I'll give them that. But gameplay to me is much more important

Why, what's wrong with the gameplay we've seen?

 

[UltimateWario]

I'm sure the game itself will be very good. It looks like it has a lot of love poured into it. Ridley not being in it doesn't make it a "bad" game, really.

It just makes it one I'm not really interested in, unfortunately.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Oh, by the way... Pyrosphere isn't available in the demo from what I've heard. Now why would THAT be the case? :D

 

[ACDC]

Why, what's wrong with the gameplay we've seen?

Everything seems so floaty and albeit not as slow as brawl, still not an improvement on melee. And they brought back brawl's aid dodge and there's no wavedash or L cancel. Now we just need to hope that the game will require at least some degree of skill instead of mashing random buttons like ten year old and still expect to win.

 

[The King of Skulls]

The hype is gone, the new smash won't be as good as melee.

Implying Melee was good...

Honestly, Melee is so overrated. Yeah, sure, wave dashing and stuff, whatever. But if Smash 4 has the speed of Melee, it will be far superior.

 

[GM_3826]

You know, we already discussed that if Pyrosphere wasn't available as part of the E3 demo, and Ridley wasn't confirmed, it'd be really suspicious. Almost as if they were plotting something.
Well, take a gander at the stage selection.
Do you see Pyrosphere?

 

[Deleted member]

If Ridley isn't playable, there will be no reason for me to buy the 3DS version, the Wii U is a must, I just want Sakurai to end this once and for all.
Sakurai is playing with us, making us think he's not playable, hopefully, he's revealed at the Q&A or the Invitational

 

[JohnathanACE]

Implying Melee was good...

Honestly, Melee is so overrated. Yeah, sure, wave dashing and stuff, whatever. But if Smash 4 has the speed of Melee, it will be far superior.

Melee overrated? That's blasphemy my good good sir!

 

[ACDC]

Implying Melee was good...

Honestly, Melee is so overrated. Yeah, sure, wave dashing and stuff, whatever. But if Smash 4 has the speed of Melee, it will be far superior.

Most people agree that melee was good because it was difficult. Most of those who prefer brawl are not interested in getting better in the game because of the easy level cap at wich you can't get any better technically, only with some mild mindgames.

 

[The King of Skulls]

Melee overrated? That's blasphemy my good good sir!

Most people agree that melee was good because it was difficult. Most of those who prefer brawl are not interested in getting better in the game because of the easy level cap at wich you can't get any better technically, only with some mild mindgames.

Melee is by no means bad. I love Melee, it's a good game! I think it gets a little too much credit, is all.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

I would point out that Ridley has been deconfirmed for months and the "false hope" is being artificially created by people who refuse to accept that. This bitterness was always going to be here, but at some point you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that regardless of what you might think, Sakurai does not believe Ridley is possible or practical as a playable Smash fighter.

Seriously, we don't know for sure 100% until we see his flesh and blood. It's not confirmed, but not deconfirmed. So stop dragging everyone down and let everyone go nuts until we see him with our own eyes

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Does Melee vs. Brawl **** really have to be brought up here?

 

[GreenKirby]

Most people agree that melee was good because it was difficult. Most of those who prefer brawl are not interested in getting better in the game because of the easy level cap at wich you can't get any better technically, only with some mild mindgames.

Yes yes whatever

If there's one topic where someone needs to say Melee > Brawl, it's the Ridley topic.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

You know, they haven't shown a boatload of veterans yet.

And it's doubtful that what we have is the final roster.

 

[Donalp15]

Pyrosphere was left out of the demos so there is still hope

 

[The King of Skulls]

Does Melee vs. Brawl **** really have to be brought up here?

No, it doesn't. Sorry.

Anyways, Ridley. Yeah, have my hopes, angry that Sal leak might as well be true, Mii's not a total flop, I'm beginning to dislike Palutena, ect.

 

[UltimateWario]

And it's doubtful that what we have is the final roster.

I keep getting this weird feeling that they're going to stop showing characters and this is it.

 

[I Bet You Can]

You are very mature in how you take care of these people.

I can't help but be angry at all these people. This is a Ridley thread and people just keep talking crap, when we are supporters of Ridley. How can you be so calm about this?

 

[UltimateWario]

Seriously, we don't know for sure 100% until we see his blood

This suddenly got really weird.

 

[Xhampi]

The fact that Bowser like Mario and I would take a guess and say luigi have now different kind of fireballs thanks to moveset customisation and the fact that the FD version of Pyrosphere have been modified to include the lava and the lights from the normal Pyrosphere is scarring the **** out of me right now.

I still plan to support playable Ridley until the bitter end tough, I don't plan to give up before Sakurai rub Bossley in my face.