Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Deleted member]

I hadn't realized how awful Little Birdie was until now! That's not the Ridley I know!(Little Birdie is too small!)

 

[Dark Phazon]

I like how they touch more on Samus past, but this thing should have been a movie, except the part of this f******* emotional Samus that can't take care of herself

I cant get over samus in the first 2 prime games shes just thr best

Even just simply going up or down a elevater she so badass favirote female VGC by far probly favirote of all.

 

[Deleted member]

I cant get over samus in the first 2 prime games shes just thr best

Even just simply going up or down a elevater she so badass favirote female VGC by far probly favirote of all.

And in Other M, even after having defeated Ridley 5 times, she stays there like it's the first time she confronts him, at least Other M isn't necessary for the timeline, right?

 

[Snagrio]

I just hope the Pyrosphere stage isn't available during Best Buy's Smash Fest (the E3 booth was at my closest store last year, so chances are it'll be there again). Potentially seeing Stage Hazard Ridley would ruin the entire event.

Though on the flipside, he could be playable there.

 

[shrooby]

And in Other M, even after having defeated Ridley 5 times, she stays there like it's the first time she confronts him, at least Other M isn't necessary for the timeline, right?

Look on the bright side!
That scene at least makes Ridley look badass.

 

[DaDavid]

Hadn't thought about his possible appearance. If he's revealed during the Digital Event at all, I'll still be at peace.

 

[Deleted member]

Look on the bright side!
That scene at least makes Ridley look badass.

And I just got into Adolescent Ridley part, this game keeps ruining my view of Ridley more and more

 

[majora_787]

And in Other M, even after having defeated Ridley 5 times, she stays there like it's the first time she confronts him, at least Other M isn't necessary for the timeline, right?

Ridley was annihilated for good in the destruction of Zebes in Super Metroid. Ridley escaped alive or intact enough to keep coming back in literally every other Metroid before that chronologically. Killing Ridley could easily cause enough of a decrease in stress, and then Ridley being cloned back to life by the federation (on accident no less) is kind of a surprise to everyone. And again, if we start ditching games from canon just because we don't like them, the series has almost no games because people don't like a lot of the series.

Also, of course Little Birdie isn't the Ridley you know. 1. It's an infant for all intents and purposes. Are you literally identical to how you were when you were detonating your diapers? Probably not. 2. This is an infant that is a CLONE that was probably genetically modified and was definitely raised in a completely different environment. So I mean obviously it's not the same Ridley as in Metroid, Prime, Prime 3, or Super Metroid.

I've gone over this so many times that I'm done being nice. If you somehow can't distinguish the clone Ridley from Other M and Fusion from the original Ridley to the point where Other M Ridley somehow impacts your view of the original, you need to work on some things.

 

[Deleted member]

I just hope the Pyrosphere stage isn't available during Best Buy's Smash Fest (the E3 booth was at my closest store last year, so chances are it'll be there again). Potentially seeing Stage Hazard Ridley would ruin the entire event.

Though on the flipside, he could be playable there.

I'd prefer the opposite, because then we would finally have clarification about the stage and the lava and the shadows and the lights and Ridley and everything.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

And I just got into Adolescent Ridley part, this game keeps ruining my view of Ridley more and more

You know what would have been totally awesome?

If Samus just smashed through the glass to get at adolescent Ridley.

But nope, Samus gets ambushed like a moron, and needs to be saved by a man. And will continue to be saved by the same man two more times in the game.

But to Anthony's credit, he only steps in when its clear that Samus needs help instead of assuming that Samus is incapable of a task at the outset, and you do get to save him later to return the favor. And he never rubs it in.

I wonder if Anthony has an AI self, that would be pretty awesome if he dies in future installments...

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley was annihilated for good in the destruction of Zebes in Super Metroid. Ridley escaped alive or intact enough to keep coming back in literally every other Metroid before that chronologically. Killing Ridley could easily cause enough of a decrease in stress, and then Ridley being cloned back to life by the federation (on accident no less) is kind of a surprise to everyone. And again, if we start ditching games from canon just because we don't like them, the series has almost no games because people don't like a lot of the series.

Also, of course Little Birdie isn't the Ridley you know. 1. It's an infant for all intents and purposes. Are you literally identical to how you were when you were detonating your diapers? Probably not. 2. This is an infant that is a CLONE that was probably genetically modified and was definitely raised in a completely different environment. So I mean obviously it's not the same Ridley as in Metroid, Prime, Prime 3, or Super Metroid.

I've gone over this so many times that I'm done being nice. If you somehow can't distinguish the clone Ridley from Other M and Fusion from the original Ridley to the point where Other M Ridley somehow impacts your view of the original, you need to work on some things.

I didn't meaned that, I know the decreasing of stress, but it's not a reason to stay complete freezed, I understand it's like seeing a ghost, but I doubt that it wasn't a shock for her when confronting him the first time. About Little Birdie, they didn't had to make it look like a bird, if he's a pterodactyl/dragon, his infant form would look like adolescent one but smaller, actually the adolescent Ridley and Little Birdie aren't just as bad as the original design

Seriously, who tought this was a good idea?(at least we have Zero Mission)

 

[Snagrio]

I'd prefer the opposite, because then we would finally have clarification about the stage and the lava and the shadows and the lights and Ridley and everything.

Ultimately that doesn't matter. We're undoubtedly going to get some trailers and whatnot before the Best Buy booths come into play, which should include Ridley's fate. The point is, if he isn't playable, then it's going to be painful seeing him lingering about the stage when the lucky few of us play the game for the first time. But on the other hand, we could get to try him out ourselves should the best outcome occur.

In short, I only hope Pyrosphere isn't with the demo should Ridley be a stage hazard, otherwise it doesn't matter.

 

[The King of Skulls]

I'd prefer the opposite, because then we would finally have clarification about the stage and the lava and the shadows and the lights and Ridley and everything.

I honestly agree. While playable Ridley would be cool, I just want to know his fate by now! The insanity! Oh, lament!

 

[AndreaAC]

I didn't meaned that, I know the decreasing of stress, but it's not a reason to stay complete freezed, I understand it's like seeing a ghost, but I doubt that it wasn't a shock for her when confronting him the first time. About Little Birdie, they didn't had to make it look like a bird, if he's a pterodactyl/dragon, his infant form would look like adolescent one but smaller, actually the adolescent Ridley and Little Birdie aren't just as bad as the original design

Seriously, who tought this was a good idea?(at least we have Zero Mission)

It was Sakamoto's idea....

 

[Deleted member]

It was Sakamoto's idea....

Do you mean the same guy who thought of Other M's "prime" ideas?

 

[SchAlternate]

I just hope the Pyrosphere stage isn't available during Best Buy's Smash Fest (the E3 booth was at my closest store last year, so chances are it'll be there again). Potentially seeing Stage Hazard Ridley would ruin the entire event.

Though on the flipside, he could be playable there.

I hope the opposite happens: Pyrosphere is in the demo, and there's no Ridley to be seen. And rising lava is shown to be the true stage hazard (?).

Would be even greater if there was a disclaimer saying "All stages in this demo are complete and will be shown as so in the final version of the game. Those that aren't are still under development" or something.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Ridley was annihilated for good in the destruction of Zebes in Super Metroid. Ridley escaped alive or intact enough to keep coming back in literally every other Metroid before that chronologically. Killing Ridley could easily cause enough of a decrease in stress, and then Ridley being cloned back to life by the federation (on accident no less) is kind of a surprise to everyone. And again, if we start ditching games from canon just because we don't like them, the series has almost no games because people don't like a lot of the series.

Also, of course Little Birdie isn't the Ridley you know. 1. It's an infant for all intents and purposes. Are you literally identical to how you were when you were detonating your diapers? Probably not. 2. This is an infant that is a CLONE that was probably genetically modified and was definitely raised in a completely different environment. So I mean obviously it's not the same Ridley as in Metroid, Prime, Prime 3, or Super Metroid.

I've gone over this so many times that I'm done being nice. If you somehow can't distinguish the clone Ridley from Other M and Fusion from the original Ridley to the point where Other M Ridley somehow impacts your view of the original, you need to work on some things.

I think its the fact that the Space Dragon is a clone is the issue. Cloning sorta implies that a perfect or at least near-perfect copy of the original is going to be made. So when I hear Clone Ridley, I imagine a perfect replica. Say that its a malignant/degenerate clone, and I'll think of the Other M version.

The other issue is that a ton of cloned wildlife looks very similar to how they appeared in Super Metroid, and according to Samus's flashbacks to Super Metroid, her Other M Power Suit is the same one she wore in Super. So for all we know, the original Ridley actually DID look like clone Ridley in the universe of Other M.

 

[AndreaAC]

Do you mean the same guy who thought of Other M's "prime" ideas?

If by "prime" ideas you mean Ridley's lost of dignity with that horrid design and evolution nonsense....yeah. it is the same guy....

 

[majora_787]

I think its the fact that the Space Dragon is a clone is the issue. Cloning sorta implies that a perfect or at least near-perfect copy of the original is going to be made. So when I hear Clone Ridley, I imagine a perfect replica. Say that its a malignant/degenerate clone, and I'll think of the Other M version.

The other issue is that a ton of cloned wildlife looks very similar to how they appeared in Super Metroid, and according to Samus's flashbacks to Super Metroid, her Other M Power Suit is the same one she wore in Super. So for all we know, the original Ridley actually DID look like clone Ridley in the universe of Other M.

The thing is simply that it's obviously not "Oh we created Ridley exactly as he was in Super Metroid". Ridley was literally re-born from the original Ridley's DNA and was raised in completely different circumstances in which he wasn't even alive for nearly as long as the original Ridley.

And I usually consider the extremely rapid advancement through its life cycle to be a sign that it's not even a perfect replica and there was something wrong with it.

EDIT: Also I want to note, I am pretty sure MOST if not ALL of the wildlife that was cloned was cloned on purpose EXCEPT for Ridley.

 

[aldelaro5]

I just want to point out that the mystery of ridley is perfectly explained by this music

Will it be playable? Will we be surprised at e3? is Sakurai the best troll ever? Why it's so ambiguous?

So many question, months until the answers.

 

[Deleted member]

If by "prime" ideas you mean Ridley's lost of dignity with that horrid design and evolution nonsense....yeah. it is the same guy....

And Samus' personality, the game's excuse for not having certain power-ups is that "Adam doesn't authorizes it"

 

[Anomilus]

Part of me hopes the following happens for E3:

- Ridley never appears during the direct. A new character is revealed instead.
- The invitational tournament happens and a winner is decided.
- The winner gets to face Sakurai mono y mono
- Sakurai performs a set of inputs while selecting a character and chooses the stage.
- The stage is Pyrosphere and Sakura is using Ridley for the exhibition match.

ALL OF MY YES LIKE IN DA BEDROOM!!

Man, if Mew2king was the winner of that tournament, I'm not sure the dude could focus well enough to win seeing AND facing his most wanted dream character right at that moment.

 

[Deleted member]

I just want to point out that the mystery of ridley is perfectly explained by this music

Will it be playable? Will we be surprised at e3? is Sakurai the best troll ever? Why it's so ambiguous?

So many question, months until the answers.

Just 39 days according to the E3 thread

 

[aldelaro5]

Just 39 days according to the E3 thread

But will we know at e3? (I believe yes but not sure) See? too much questions, no answers.

 

[The King of Skulls]

I just want to point out that the mystery of ridley is perfectly explained by this music

Will it be playable? Will we be surprised at e3? is Sakurai the best troll ever? Why it's so ambiguous?

So many question, months until the answer.

It's the concept of Struggle. No story would be interesting without the main character struggling, just as no video game would be interesting if it was just a straight line with a big 'You win' button at the end.

We are in the story called "The Saga of Ridley Being Playable," and we are struggling, thus making it interesting for those who come along this thread and read through the hardships we went through, the ridicule from those who say Ridley is "too big" or "Never going to happen." We few, we happy few, shall persevere.

Or I could just be typing this to waste space and time until E3. You never know.

 

[majora_787]

In all seriousness we're guaranteed to know the state of Ridley at E3 for sure. If they don't allow people to play on Pyrosphere, that's definitely an indication that Ridley is playable and they're wanting to drag it out. But then people will be able to tell if Ridley is playable based off whether or not he appears as a hazard on that stage. We don't even need him to have a newcomer trailer.

Although, if he is a newcomer, I'd think he'd be shown at E3 as such before Sakurai lets go of the opportunity for a hype explosion.

 

[AndreaAC]

And Samus' personality, the game's excuse for not having certain power-ups is that "Adam doesn't authorizes it"

Let's just hope Other M does not get a sequel....and not consider it canon....well, at least i'm not going to consider it part of the timeline....

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

The thing is simply that it's obviously not "Oh we created Ridley exactly as he was in Super Metroid". Ridley was literally re-born from the original Ridley's DNA and was raised in completely different circumstances in which he wasn't even alive for nearly as long as the original Ridley.

And I usually consider the extremely rapid advancement through its life cycle to be a sign that it's not even a perfect replica and there was something wrong with it.

EDIT: Also I want to note, I am pretty sure MOST if not ALL of the wildlife that was cloned was cloned on purpose EXCEPT for Ridley.

Alrighty, I'll just chalk up the magical size-changing Super Metroid, Samus's radically different suit from the original game, and Mother Brain's method of killing the Metroid to self-serving memory on Samus's part.

Now, the only mystery left to explain is why the frozen husks look radically different...

 

[Anomilus]

That's another thing about boss hazard Ridley.

Assuming he wasn't playable, would that make him exclusive to the Wii U version? 'Cause that would suck. Ridley is just as relevant on the handheld games as he is on the consoles. A boss role could effectively tether him not just to one stage, but only one version of the game and thus primarily one portion of his legacy. A less favored portion of his legacy.

I can understand Yellow Devil. I could understand other bosses if they also aren't all that prevalent on the handheld games. But Ridley has Fusion and Zero Mission, two very lauded games in the series that are on handhelds.

 

[OblivionWolf]

People are still saying the "The Ridley boss isn't finished yet" nonsense. C'mon people get real it doesn't take this long to finish a stage hazard.

 

[majora_787]

Honestly, this is what happens when games with stories happen. Over time and between systems and game styles, things change. I mean look at Ocarina of Time Ganondorf and Twilight Princess Ganondorf. Literally the same person. But their designs obviously aren't identical. Hell, even Wind Waker Ganondorf is the same person. But they all look noticeably different because they're in different games with different styles, and the context is different as well.

I don't know why Ridley has to literally look 100% identical down to every detail in every game. Should we have had NES sprite Ridley in every game just for the sake of consistency?

 

[Deleted member]

Wow, Ridley's death in Other M is so anti-climatic

Honestly, this is what happens when games with stories happen. Over time and between systems and game styles, things change. I mean look at Ocarina of Time Ganondorf and Twilight Princess Ganondorf. Literally the same person. But their designs obviously aren't identical. Hell, even Wind Waker Ganondorf is the same person. But they all look noticeably different because they're in different games with different styles, and the context is different as well.

I don't know why Ridley has to literally look 100% identical down to every detail in every game. Should we have had NES sprite Ridley in every game just for the sake of consistency?

At least he doesn't look as bulky as he was in Other M from what I saw in the shadow
EDIT: f***, forget about it, he's still alive, well, he isn't called "The Cunning God of Death" for nothing
EDIT 2: wow, Anthony's death that was anti-climatic

 

[The King of Skulls]

Wow, Ridley's death in Other M is so anti-climatic

At least he doesn't look as bulky as he was in Other M from what I saw in the shadow
EDIT: f***, forget about it, he's still alive, well, he isn't called "The Cunning God of Death" for nothing

I hope that his SSB4 appearance's head doesn't look like it's been beaten flat with a shovel. Other Ridley's head was the one of the only things I disliked about his design(the other being his too vibrant and blotchy colors.)

 

[majora_787]

I hope that his SSB4 appearance's head doesn't look like it's been beaten flat with a shovel. Other Ridley's head was the one of the only things I disliked about his design(the other being his too vibrant and blotchy colors.)

I have a ton of faith in Sakurai and the dev team to make Other M Ridley far closer to his snazzy concept art than he was actually modeled to be in Other M.

EDIT: Maybe even better than the concept art, honestly. We'll find out. Though if he's a stage hazard, he'll probably look the same. :\

 

[AndreaAC]

I hope that his SSB4 appearance's head doesn't look like it's been beaten flat with a shovel. Other Ridley's head was the one of the only things I disliked about his design(the other being his too vibrant and blotchy colors.)

If he appears like that....I will have to make Ridley eat him again.....

 

[The King of Skulls]

If he appears like that....I will have to make Ridley eat him again.....

I felt like his Brawl boss design is his best design, aside from Meta Ridley from MP3:C. Why did they have to change it to the mutated monstrosity that is Other Ridley? The colors are too bright, and his head looks so odd. Space Pirates should not be purple like a blotch of paint.

He can keep the spikes and the muscle he got from his workout with Wii Fit Trainer. Those aren't that bad.

 

[OblivionWolf]

I have a ton of faith in Sakurai and the dev team to make Other M Ridley far closer to his snazzy concept art than he was actually modeled to be in Other M.

EDIT: Maybe even better than the concept art, honestly. We'll find out. Though if he's a stage hazard, he'll probably look the same. :\

Lets hope so. I honestly think Other M Ridley's existence helps his chances for Smash. The body type is soooo Donkey Kong like. Not saying Sakurai couldn't put Super Metroid Ridley in but Other M design makes Sakurai's job alot easier.

 

[AndreaAC]

I felt like his Brawl boss design is his best design, aside from Meta Ridley from MP3:C. Why did they have to change it to the mutated monstrosity that is Other Ridley? The colors are too bright, and his head looks so odd. Space Pirates should not be purple like a blotch of paint.

He can keep the spikes and the muscle he got from his workout with Wii Fit Trainer. Those aren't that bad.

:3 I prefer him anorexic....Every Ridley design was like that.....Roidley is the only exception....

 

[PlasticBag]

597 pages, this thread is too big.

 

[The King of Skulls]

:3 I prefer him anorexic....Every Ridley design was like that.....Roidley is the only exception....

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Of course Ridley looks better anorexic. It makes me question how his head stays attached and how he manages to swallow anything bigger than a pea, which makes it good. On an unrelated note, the Ridley on the top right looks like the Blue Eyes White Dragon.