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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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Regarding the 2nd Rep for Metroid IT HAS to be Ridley who else? The other ones that come to mind is Commander Adam M. Not to sure about Anthony Higgs. As far for depth in the story goes Adam seems to be the main one. Anthony is more like a personal friend of Aran. I was quite surprised/happy that Dark Samus was an Assist Trophy that knocked down a potential playable character. sighhhhh E3 needs to come NOW. jejejejje all this debate of Ridley's fate grrrrrr.
 

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Regarding the 2nd Rep for Metroid IT HAS to be Ridley who else? The other ones that come to mind is Commander Adam M. Not to sure about Anthony Higgs. As far for depth in the story goes Adam seems to be the main one. Anthony is more like a personal friend of Aran. I was quite surprised/happy that Dark Samus was an Assist Trophy that knocked down a potential playable character. sighhhhh E3 needs to come NOW. jejejejje all this debate of Ridley's fate grrrrrr.
Adam would be kind of lame. I can see it happening, but it might seriously piss off a bunch of Space Pirates who wanted Ridley in SSB4.
 

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Adam would be kind of lame. I can see it happening, but it might seriously piss off a bunch of Space Pirates who wanted Ridley in SSB4.
This is how Ridley and the others were when they saw Adam blowing himself up

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YAY!
 
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Ridley always comes back in one form or another. Gannon is weird, some incarnations of him die and some live. He could qualify as an exception.
Well, let's be fair here.

"Ridley" (quotes because it encompasses everything, even Neo Ridley) has only been actually "killed" three times.
The original Ridley has survived damn near everything until Super Metroid when Zebes exploded.
He was then accidentally cloned in Other M, and said clone was killed by the cloned Queen Metroid.
And an X-Parasite absorbed the dried corpse of the clone and mutated into Neo Ridley....which was then killed by Samus shortly after.

Sure, he can come back again if the Federation still has his DNA, but I think it's safe to consider him deader than dead for now.
Thankfully, being "dead" doesn't mean anything for Smash.
 
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Come to think of it now that I brought up Neo Ridley....can we really consider him to be the same as Ridley and "Roidley"?
After all, Neo Ridley/Ridley-X is the same as SA-X, in that they are X-Parasites that took a specific form after absorbing material ("Roidley's" corpse, Samus' suit), and SA-X is not considered Samus.
 

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Come to think of it now that I brought up Neo Ridley....can we really consider him to be the same as Ridley and "Roidley"?
After all, Neo Ridley/Ridley-X is the same as SA-X, in that they are X-Parasites that took a specific form after absorbing material ("Roidley's" corpse, Samus' suit), and SA-X is not considered Samus.
Well yeah, but by that same token, Roidley isn't really Ridley.
 
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Well yeah, but by that same token, Roidley isn't really Ridley.
He pretty much is, considering the clone retains the memories of the original and is treated as an actual rebirth.
He may not literally be the same creature as the original, but for all intents and purposes, it's Ridley in a new body. Whereas the Neo Ridley is an X-Parasite that copied Ridley's form, just like SA-X did to Samus (and on the same note, what Dark Samus did as well).
 
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Look at the video at 2:41
 
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He... retains Ridley's memories... ?
Its unknown whenever or not he does retains them. But he mostly attacked Samus and didn`t just stabbed her head with his tail to remove competition and since Ridley has a lot of ways to do so, he would be able to do that fast. BUT Roidley didn`t just tried to kill her for some reasons...
 
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Its unknown whenever or not he does retains them. But he mostly attacked Samus and didn`t just stabbed her head with his tail to remove competition and since Ridley has a lot of ways to do so, he would be able to do that fast. BUT Roidley didn`t just tried to kill her for some reasons...
Being the sadistic ******* he is, he wanted to make her suffer. With her freaking out over his return, it had to have put a smile on that crooked duckbill of his.

...though to his credit, he did just try to outright end her in his adolescent stage. Samus just barely dodged.
 

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I trust your logic, but that could easily be just an excuse to revive Samus's PTSD or whatever.
Then she could just see him without Roidley even acting like Ridley would.
Being the sadistic ******* he is, he wanted to make her suffer. With her freaking out over his return, it had to have put a smile on that crooked duckbill of his.

...though to his credit, he did just try to outright end her in his adolescent stage. Samus just barely dodged.
Unfortunately for him, his face is as stiff as rock...other that his eyes and eyelids of course.
Maybe he just couldn`t make her suffer in adolescent form since the only thing he had that could do so is his tail. And just out of pure hatred since she killed him.
 
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I trust your logic, but that could easily be just an excuse to revive Samus's PTSD or whatever.
Except it goes before the reveal that it was Ridley all along.
As an adolescent he was especially hostile towards Samus than the soldiers he was fighting, even luring her out by fighting them so he could ambush her.
As an infant, there is of course, the death glare.

Unfortunately for him, his face is as stiff as rock...other that his eyes and eyelids of course.
Maybe he just couldn`t make her suffer in adolescent form since the only thing he had that could do so is his tail. And just out of pure hatred since she killed him.
Makes me wonder why he didn't just bite her while he had her pinned down....or are his teeth in that state not able to pierce the armor, I wonder?
 
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Except it goes before the reveal that it was Ridley all along.
As an adolescent he was especially hostile towards Samus than the soldiers he was fighting, even luring her out by fighting them so he could ambush her.
As an infant, there is of course, the death glare.
Also, he murdered/killed those scientists...even through they cared about him more-or-less. This is either because he is racist and just likes to kill or because all of space dragons are violent and sadistic.
Edit: i don`t think that proves something...
 
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Also, he murdered/killed those scientists...even through they cared about him more-or-less. This is either because he is racist and just likes to kill or because all of space dragons are violent and sadistic.
Edit: i don`t think that proves something...
Didn't he eat the scientists or at least parts of them?
 

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Didn't he eat the scientists or at least parts of them?
Yes, but first, he brutally killed/murdered (which word is right one?) them after playing dead or pretending to be dead or whatever. They entered his cage...and then he did that. And he could just eat what they gave him (i think it was that giant fruit) if he was hungry.
 
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Maybe it's less that he retained Ridley's memories, and more that Ridley's hatred for Samus was encoded in his DNA. xD
...That makes even less sense since he wouldn`t know who exactly he hates and wouldn`t he then tried to rip out/off every single part of her body then incinerate everything left whenever he would get chance to do so without thinking about his fellow space pirates that needed that suit?
 
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Yes, but first, he brutally killed/murdered (which word is right one?) them after playing dead or pretending to be dead or whatever. They entered his cage...and then he did that. And he could just eat what they gave him (i think it was that giant fruit) if he was hungry.
If he wanted to grow up big and strong in order to kill Samus, little Ridley needed some meat. :troll:
 

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...That makes even less sense since he wouldn`t know who exactly he hates and wouldn`t he then tried to rip out/off every single part of her body then incinerate everything left whenever he would get chance to do so without thinking about his fellow space pirates that needed that suit?
I think they mean that his hatred for her image is literally coded into his DNA.

"Green visors?!! RHHAAAAAAAAARGGH!"
 

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I'm back at the front of the Ridley hype train.

I still question why Sakurai hasn't shown or even out right stated Ridley's name directly. Not showing Ridley at all was a deliberate tease to encourage discussion and debate. Why exactly I don't know. He may be a hazard but showing that shadow the way he did was definitely done to toy with the expectations and emotions of Ridley hopefuls and detractors.


 
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I think they mean that his hatred for her image is literally coded into his DNA.

"Green visors?!! RHHAAAAAAAAARGGH!"
Then it would work...but still makes less sense than having memories encoded in DNA since they are speciffic memories.
I'm back at the front of the Ridley hype train.

I still question why Sakurai hasn't shown or even out right stated Ridley's name directly. Not showing Ridley at all was a deliberate tease to encourage discussion and debate. Why exactly I don't know. He may be a hazard but showing that shadow the way he did was definitely done to toy with the expectations and emotions of Ridley hopefuls and detractors.


To increase hype for either boss or PC Ridley or to make it something that would be disscused about or overanalyzed until game is released or until he will confirm something about him.
If he is a PC, then this would be similar to what will happen:
Move to 13:31. Its before reveal. After few seconds of this video, its what will happen after the reveal.
If he wanted to grow up big and strong in order to kill Samus, little Ridley needed some meat. :troll:
"Whanna kill that bad bounty hunter Samus? Then say AAAH and eat this fruit already!"
 
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"...F*ck....."

I really wish he could kill something/someone....too bad that I'm holding him back from doing it...
 

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Kill someone? Well, Cutscene OM Samus, OM Adam, Pichu or Jigglypuff? Especially this 2 pokemons. Brutally.
You already know what's the thing I want him to kill specifically...but yeah, OM Samus and Adam too....poor pokemons...
 

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You already know what's the thing I want him to kill specifically...but yeah, OM Samus and Adam too....poor pokemons...
Roidley? But he was awesome!..well, he doesn`t looks good, but still its Ridley while Neo Ridley isn`t. And CUTSCENE OM Samus because she is completly fine during gameplay and doesn`t speaks, isn`t afraid of something, lacks PTSD and just has a lot of cool thing like overblast and lethal strike. But there is nothing to save OM Adam and pokemons i mentioned...especially this pokemons.
And i found something that WOULD be awesome if it wouldn`t be canceled:

But if someone has good PSA skills and wants to make Ridley PSA for brawl using his normal brawl model - i can animate him. But i won`t touch wings because i will most likely screw them up because of the way they were rigged.
And there is a lot of good thing about Other M that i would like to see in next 3d mertoid games - speed booster and the way it works (other than being unable to use diagonal shinespark), diffusion beam, screw attack and the way it works (maybe more powerful), power bombs, lethal strike, overblast, graphics quality, awesomeness of certain boss fights, Nightmare`s armor design, Accel Charges things, Concentration (but without making it the only way to restore something during the fight), Ridley`s attacks, etc. But NO STORY, MUSIC USAGE AND PERSONALITIES LIKE IN THIS GAME.
 
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Roidley? But he was awesome!..well, he doesn`t looks good, but still its Ridley while Neo Ridley isn`t. And CUTSCENE OM Samus because she is completly fine during gameplay and doesn`t speaks, isn`t afraid of something, lacks PTSD and just has a lot of cool thing like overblast and lethal strike. But there is nothing to save OM Adam and pokemons i mentioned...especially this pokemons.
And i found something that WOULD be awesome if it wouldn`t be canceled:

But if someone has good PSA skills and wants to make Ridley PSA for brawl...then i can animate him. But i won`t touch wings because i will most likely screw them up because of the way they were rigged.
He's not.....and you also already now the reasons of my DEEP hatred....and well, Cutscene OM Samus and OM Samus are the same....but she's not the same as the Origina/Primes Samus....and everybody hates Adam.....yeah...maybe both of the pokemons...

:3 PRETTY META! me likes it....
 

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He's not.....and you also already now the reasons of my DEEP hatred....and well, Cutscene OM Samus and OM Samus are the same....but she's not the same as the Origina/Primes Samus....and everybody hates Adam.....yeah...maybe both of the pokemons...

:3 PRETTY META! me likes it....
Yes, she is same but its still kinda weird seeing her basicly perform fatalities on enemies by blasting their face off and then seeing her cry and talk endlessly and break upon seeing Ridley for bazilionth time and that makes me think its 2 different characters (i know that is not true...unfortunately). Maybe MotherBrain decided to make a drama/romantic/whatever movie and hired bad actors but bought good decorations? Nobody hates Fusion Adam as much as Other M Adam as far as i know, but i think there is alot of peoples who thinks Pichu was unnecesary...right?
Me too. A lot. But it was way too unfinished...what a shame.
 

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But if someone has good PSA skills and wants to make Ridley PSA for brawl using his normal brawl model - i can animate him. But i won`t touch wings because i will most likely screw them up because of the way they were rigged
An interesting proposition...
 

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Adam was actually cool in Fusion though, reminded me of a benevolent HAL.

I kind of needed him, considering the overbearing, creepy atmosphere of that game. >///>
 
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