Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Snagrio]

This guy just isn't giving up...

Here was his response to the spiel I went on about yesterday:

" ROB is a robot and G&W was meant to be unique. Metaknight has always been the cool silent type, but Ridley's a different story. It's not a case of status or size, he's just not as cartoonish as the others. In his recent appearances, he's been fairly detailed and stuff, and it just wouldn't fit. His design doesn't work for Smash's style."

Here's what I said back:

"First, I'd like to point out that you're setting a double-standard. You're making excuses for characters that are already in so that you can tell yourself that Ridley has no chance. Meta Knight is only silent because most Kirby games aren't dialogue driven. In KSS/KSSU and Brawl, it's made very clear through subtitles and voice acting that he does talk, thus putting holes in you "cool,silent type" theory. Also, "ROB is a robot" isn't a legitimate case. Mega Man is also a robot. Should ROB be taken out because he can't meet the standard set by fellow robots? I don't think you understand how little Smash is driven by emotion. Pretty much the only look any character has is "neutral" and "in pain". Ridley can do both of those.

Please understand how little water this "character" argument holds. Have you ever heard Sakurai say anything that indicated the absence of a character based SOLELY around potential facial expressions? That's the least of his worries! I think he's more focused on incorporating characters pivotal to Nintendo's success who can carry an interesting fighting style. "

I'm more surprised you're still talking to this guy. The thick skull he likely possesses cannot be bypassed by any amount of logic.

 

[RadRedi]

I'm more surprised you're still talking to this guy. The thick skull he likely possesses cannot be bypassed by any amount of logic.

I have a lot of time on my hands. I do classes online, so I'm on YouTube all the time, anyway. I decided an easy way to pass the time would be to debate people online about Smash Bros (completely aware that they may never change their minds because they showed up to be entertained, not to socialize with people about common interests). But since I'm starting to vocalize about how he doesn't have a leg to stand on, I'll probably eventually just end the conversation if he keeps coming back as if I never addressed the issue.

 

[UltimateWario]

But since I'm starting to vocalize about how he doesn't have a leg to stand on, I'll probably eventually just end the conversation if he keeps coming back as if I never addressed the issue.

Ah, the old anti-Ridley standby: ignoring the evidence and continuing to make an idiot out of yourself.

You know, it's people like this that are bringing our literacy rate down.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Ah, the old anti-Ridley standby: ignoring the evidence and continuing to make an idiot out of yourself.

You know, it's people like this that are bringing our literacy rate down.

Yeah, literally.

*sighs blissfully, wipes sweat off brow, and lights a cigarette*

 

[UltimateWario]

Yeah, literally.

*sighs blissfully, wipes sweat off brow, and lights a cigarette*

Pun: 1/5
Delivery: 5/5

 

[CardiganBoy]

Ridley should have a taunt where he mocks the toobigots.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Ridley should have a taunt where he mocks the toobigots.

What would he do/say?

 

[CardiganBoy]

He would steal Mario's super mushroom taunt

 

[afrozenaer0]

He would steal Mario's super mushroom taunt

And then say "Guess what guys? I'm big as sh*t!"

 

[Shinru202]

Here's how Ridley's STATS would be in an Etrian Odyssey game.
Atlus, PLEASE BRING THE DRAGON CLASS in the next Etrian Odyssey game so I can name the purple dragon as Ridley.

 

[BKupa666]

And then say "Guess what guys? I'm big as sh*t!"

What's this? You think we should hack SSB4 and replace all of Ridley's roars and screeches with the equally bestial noises of the TooBigots? Great idea.

 

[Sehnsucht]

What's this? You think we should hack SSB4 and replace all of Ridley's roars and screeches with the equally bestial noises of the TooBigots? Great idea.

Up Taunt: "******s!"

Side Taunt: "******s!"

Down Taunt: "******s!"

 

[IsmaR]

I actually do think Doc Louis will comment on his size.

"Maaaaaan, and I thought King Hippo was big! Go for the shins, Mac baby!"

Alternatively him just making this face

 

[Sehnsucht]

I actually do think Doc Louis will comment on his size.

"Maaaaaan, and I thought King Hippo was big! Go for the shins, Mac baby!"

Alternatively him just making this face

You know, that face would also be appropriate if Doc accidentally gets a glimpse of what lies up Rosalina's gown.

 

[ToothiestAura]

You know, that face would also be appropriate if Doc accidentally gets a glimpse of what lies up Rosalina's gown.

Ah, to know the cosmos~
But seeing the truth of the universe can do crazy things to a man.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Ah, to know the cosmos~

I was more referring to Alfonzo.

 

[ToothiestAura]

I was more referring to Alfonzo.

Well, that's just... Disturbing.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Well, that's just... Disturbing.

As you can see above, Doc clearly thought the same.

 

[Shaking//very]

i think he will flap his wings and scream ''it's a livin''

 

[AndreaAC]

i think he will flap his wings and scream ''it's a livin''

i don't know why, but i thought that every time he was in the "helpless" state falling he would scream " STILL FALLIN' "....Yeah, i got that from Retsupurae's Ridley voice....

 

[RomanceDawn]

Ok when people bring up the NES limitations "fact" where is the source to that? I am absolutely certain that originated here on these very boards from nothing more than an assumption. If there is a source can someone please show me. Even the less technical Metroid 2 on Gameboy has Metroids in there different stages bigger than Ridley.

 

[Xhampi]

Ok when people bring up the NES limitations "fact" where is the source to that? I am absolutely certain that originated here on these very boards from nothing more than an assumption. If there is a source can someone please show me. Even the less technical Metroid 2 on Gameboy has Metroids in there different stages bigger than Ridley.

I have no idea, but I suppose that it's because the bosses were bigger in the remake : Metroid Zero Mission.

What baffles me tough is the fact that we have to act like the original Metroid never happened since it has a remake if we were to listen to the Too bigots.

Also there have been bosses and playable characters on the NES that were way bigger than Ridley, here's some exemples :

And then again, even if were to be true and that yes, Ridley was indeed small because of technical limitations, he still doesn't change the fact that Ridley was that size back then.

 

[Phaazoid]

And then again, even if were to be true and that yes, Ridley was indeed small because of technical limitations, he still doesn't change the fact that Ridley was that size back then.

Rayman didn't have arms due to technical limitations, and they kept that cannon...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Rayman didn't have arms due to technical limitations, and they kept that cannon...

Mega Man was blue because of technical limitations and they kept that canon...

 

[Phaazoid]

Mega Man was blue because of technical limitations and they kept that canon...

Mario was a plumber due to..

 

[RomanceDawn]

Mario was a plumber due to..

He got a mustache due to technical limitations.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Why the hey they didn't keep Samus green haired with purple Zero Suit?!

 

[Phaazoid]

Why the hey they didn't keep Samus green haired with purple Zero Suit?!

I'm gonna go ahead and say technical limitations

 

[Dark Phazon]

I'm gonna go ahead and say technical limitations

Uhh...Wario was white in Wario Land 2 & 3 due to techinical limitaions.
XD

 

[Deleted member]

Godzilla for Smash.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I still don't think Ridley will be in.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I have no idea, but I suppose that it's because the bosses were bigger in the remake : Metroid Zero Mission.

What baffles me tough is the fact that we have to act like the original Metroid never happened since it has a remake if we were to listen to the Too bigots.

Also there have been bosses and playable characters on the NES that were way bigger than Ridley, here's some exemples :

And then again, even if were to be true and that yes, Ridley was indeed small because of technical limitations, he still doesn't change the fact that Ridley was that size back then.

I like how one's Godzilla, and another's some Xenomorph... thing? Guess it kinda makes me reevaluate how much weight the whole technical limitations excuse has for the NES Metroid, not that it matters that much anyway because of Zero Mission, and the NES Ridley has always been one of the least effective ways of defending him far as size goes.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I still don't think Ridley will be in.

I still don't think Impa will be in.

 

[SchAlternate]

I still don't think Impa will be in.

Who does nowadays, anyway?

 

[Game&Watcher]

I still don't think Ridley will be in.

I still don't think Impa will be in.

 

[AustarusIV]

I still don't think Ridley will be in.

Don't worry. I have the same attitude towards Anthony Higgs.

 

[Accursed]

I drew this picture a few days ago, and I thought, "Why not? I'll show off my drawing here!"

So here it is!

 

[Empyrean]

Stahp, you people! You're making me like Other M Ridley more and more with each amazing drawing!

 

[Starcutter]

I didn't know that Other M Ridley could look so good!


he still doesn't, but hey, at least that drawing is well-drawn and good in aspects other than the subject matter!

 

[Accursed]

What's wrong with Roidley? :3